Most Republicans Think College Is Bad for America?!!

There is 50 percent truth in this post

That's a passing score here.

Fact is college graduates will make more than a high school only grad over life exceeding the expense usually incurred many time over.

So, 50 percent false. But it still costs too much and we need more menial Sailors and fewer micawber geniuses, I agree. There are complex issues about lifestyle, dirty fingers and such that could also enter in to that equation from the parent's perspective.

If you even have a degree you need to demand your money back. It obviously has not helped you at all in life. As far a college graduate earning more than a H.S. grad? Not anymore. Kids are coming out of college in debt up to their kista's. Skilled labor pays considerably better than a College degree right now with none of the debt. Not that I would expect someone as "sophisticated' as you and unemployed to understand reality.
 
Thing1.

Damn right I did.

You probably voted for Hillary. You've voted for Nancy Pelosi and that bitch is just as bad.

Thing1 voted for Kasich. I voted for Gary Johnson, twice. I've never come close to voting for Pelosi.

It's funny you won't say who you voted for. Probably because you did vote for Hillary. Racists feel at home in the Democratic Party
 
Previous experience in government and law, and an understanding of the Constitution and American history.

How is trump qualified?

He had zero Executive experience. Trump is a businessman with a proven record.

"Understanding of Constitution and American history"? Are you serious? I have an understanding of those but it doesn't qualify me to me President of the US. lmao
 
Remember, a dumbass, uneducated populace is easier to control?!!

[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]It doesn’t seem that long ago when most people’s version of the American Dream included sending their kids to college to ensure they had a secure future. Now it seems like a certain sect of the population is not so wild about the idea of college.
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[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]According to a new Pew poll, the majority of Republicans consider higher education to be bad for the country.
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[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]The stat is startling: [FONT=sofia_pro_semi_boldregular]58 percent[/FONT] of Republicans and conservatives believe that colleges and universities have a “negative effect” on the United States. As a point of comparison, only 19 percent of Democrats and liberals feel the same way.
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[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]Conservatives haven’t always felt this hostile toward college – it’s a very recent phenomenon. In 2015, most Republicans said college has a “positive effect” on the U.S., with just 37 percent thinking poorly of higher learning. For that number to jump by over 20 percentage points in the span of two years is as amazing as it is disturbing.
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[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]How, in such a short timeframe, did we get to a point where the very institutions that keep our nation smart and competitive are reviled by one of the two major political parties?
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[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]Presumably, conservative Americans are taking their cues from GOP leaders and rightwing media that broadly label universities to be too liberal. By most measurements, academia does skew liberal. That said, it is an ongoing disagreement whether that is the result of a leftist conspiracy or just that intelligent people who research subjects extensively are more likely to reach a liberal perspective.
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[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]On top of that, conservative media has devoted a lot of airtime to portraying colleges as overly PC purveyors of “safe space.” As the Washington Post points out, internet searches for the term “safe spaces” were “basically nonexistent” back in 2015 before skyrocketing in the past two years.
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[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]Because of this coverage, a growing number of Republicans view colleges not as places of learning, but as facilities that breed “snowflakes,” whatever that means.
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[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]To be completely candid, there are a few ways that college does have a negative impact on Americans, not the least of which is the crippling loan debt students accrue. With college being so expensive these days, attending often isn’t about who performed the best in high school, but who comes from a rich enough family to afford the tuition. Oh, and then there’s the whole issue of for-profit colleges that rip off students and provide them no marketable skills.
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[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]However, if those are the kinds of reasons Republican voters have a bad impression of the service college provides, then they’re definitely supporting the wrong party. GOP lawmakers vote in such a way to increase the amount of debt students take on, not to mention cut state funding to local universities and community colleges, which makes tuition less affordable.
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[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]As for for-profit colleges, President Trump ran a fraudulent for-profit university and now his Education Department is rolling back rules Obama implemented to keep these institutions accountable to students.
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[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]The good news is that, disregarding political affiliations, just 36 percent of Americans has a negative opinion of college, placing the brunt of the animosity toward higher education on Republicans. Respect for college remains high overall, even if one party has soured on its contributions to the United States’s dominance.
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[FONT=sofia_pro_lightregular]Looking ahead, though, there is a real danger in the possibility of an entire half of the country’s political spectrum abandoning college because of this shifting view. How will America continue to lead in a world full of complicated issues if the very institutions that teach the critical thinking skills necessary to navigate these complexities are reviled?

By Kevin Mathews

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Look moron, what percentage of the Republicans running Wall Street did not go to college.

You are in denial...................
 
If it's about resumes who was better than Romney? Helped start an amazing company and was a good enough governor.
 
As far a college graduate earning more than a H.S. grad? Not anymore. Kids are coming out of college in debt up to their kista's. Skilled labor pays considerably better than a College degree right now with none of the debt. Not that I would expect someone as "sophisticated' as you and unemployed to understand reality.

Define skilled labor. Offer some facts, dummy.

"The average starting salary for a 2017 college grad is just a smidge under $50,000 ($49,785, to be exact), the study indicates."

http://time.com/money/4777074/college-grad-pay-2017-average-salary/


http://work.chron.com/average-salary-college-degree-1861.html


"While famous billionaires such as Bill Gates of Microsoft and Larry Ellison of Oracle are college dropouts, they are exceptions to the rule. In general, if you don't complete your college education, your earnings will be far lower than if you earn your bachelor's degree, master's degree or doctorate."
 
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Thing1 voted for Kasich. I voted for Gary Johnson, twice. I've never come close to voting for Pelosi.

It's funny you won't say who you voted for. Probably because you did vote for Hillary. Racists feel at home in the Democratic Party

I've said who I voted for. If you didn't see it, that's your fucking problem. It's funny you ASSume things like you do.
 
Thing1 voted for Kasich. I voted for Gary Johnson, twice. I've never come close to voting for Pelosi.

It's funny you won't say who you voted for. Probably because you did vote for Hillary. Racists feel at home in the Democratic Party

Thing1 couldn't have voted for Kasich. Kasich withdrew from the process on May 4.
 
And the founders certainly did not set up an equal value vote system. Depriving anyone of a vote is not giving equal weight, and even those who were privileged to vote (white homosapiens with dicks and land) did not have them count equally.
The post is ignorant many ways at once. Was it seminal and better than no voting and a monarchy and therefore revolutionary political thought implemented? Hell yes. But one man one vote it was not.

THE BIG QUESTION? "IF" THE FOUNDERS OF THIS NATION DID NOT ESTABLISH A SYSTEM WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR "EQUALITY".....JUST HOW IS IT THAT WOMEN AND MINORITIES ARE EQUALLY REPRESENTED TODAY?

Do you know your "history actual"? Apparently not....you know "propaganda". There is not one civil right that exists in this nation that did not come directly from those you are now claiming do not support equal voting rights...when in reality it was the "republican...conservative party" that championed the equal rights of all Americans...minorities and women were granted the right to own property and vote while the democrat party fought against these equal rights for almost a century before the REPUBLICAN STATES began (one by one) to grant women and minorities the right to vote and own property forcing the federal representatives to finally pass an amendment by a super majority granting women the right to vote at the federal level.

Nor do you comprehend the historical fact that this nation was founded upon a TRUTH, "ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL and endowed (by God) with certain unalienable rights (non-transferable by any court or person)...among them the right to life, liberty and the (individual) pursuit of happiness.

Why then did slavery exist in the United States well past the middle of the 19th century? TRUTH: The majority of the American People "wanted slavery to exist". The truth upon which this nation was founded (equality for all men/women) did not turn into a lie because "society" wanted the trading and owning of flesh to continue.

FYI: The system worked. When society "evolved" and realized that slavery was wrong and unjust....slavery ended. The truth never evolved, what was true 250 years ago is just as true today, or it was never truth to begin with, TRUTH DOES NOT EVOLVE, society does, men's idea of morality might evolve...but truth never did.

As far as attempting to blame Conservatives for hindering any movement of civil rights...history proves you are barking up a false tree at a false premise. The democrats fought tooth and nail to stop slavery from ending, they fought tooth and nail to stop women from voting and owning property, and they stalled the civil rights bill in in 64 with the longest filibuster in US HISTORY. FACT: There were more Conservatives that voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act than democrats (who finally were forced to vote).

The Republican party had the first Black Representative decades before the democrat party sought to have a token black run for any political seat of power......a "House Niger" is how Malcolm X described those blacks used by a political party in the quest to get Blacks to change their voting habits. Blacks by majority historically supported the Republican Party until they were bribed to vote democrat first by FDR and then Again by LBJ.

Truth is truth. Bullshit is bullshit. Do you know the last politician that held a seat in the senate and the KKK did not die until 2010? What party did that former KKK leader represent? THE DEMOCRAT PARTY....Robert KKK Byrd.

www.cnn.com/2014/04/10/politics/civil-rights-act-interesting-facts/index.html


Again....there is not "one" civil right that exists in this nation that did not come about by a super majority support of THE PEOPLE of the United States....it takes both republicans and democrats to pass an amendment that requires a super majority ratification.

The Constitution Works....it evolves when the majority of the people want it to evolve...its the only way it can be in a Democratic REPUBLIC. There is now nor never was anything wrong with the system, it was designed by geniuses...it was designed to evolve when society was ready for the changes.

There is no such animal as is claimed by liberals.....a tyrannical MAJORITY, (this is a representative REPUBLIC...NOT A DEMOCRACY...the majority always establishes and reflects the morality and the laws of this REPUBLIC) as it was a MAJORITY that brought about all the civil rights that exist in this REPUBLIC. :) Both phrases, tyrannical majority and separation of church and state are nothing but left wing buzz words, propaganda that finds no place in the actual history of record as recorded in the actual wording of the Constitution or following bill of rights. If these principles exist anywhere other than the communist manifesto....show them to me in the actual history of this nation.

What I find strange.....is the liberal buzz words, TYRANNICAL MAJORITY were never whispered in the 2016 general election. No...quite to the contrary, they cried and cried about how superior they were because more people live in California and NY and voted Hillary into power and she is the rightful (leftful) potus. Where was the tyrannical majority when the democrats marched upon DC claiming because they had more people...they were RIGHT...err...LEFT?

That's the way it works...its the reality that exists when you stand for nothing and support whatever position YOU THINK might get you elected regardless of your personal bias and the number of hypocrites within the party.
 
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He had zero Executive experience. Trump is a businessman with a proven record.

"Understanding of Constitution and American history"? Are you serious? I have an understanding of those but it doesn't qualify me to me President of the US. lmao

Lol. A business man with a proven track record of failure time and time again. The only success he has is in promoting his name and his cult followers eat it up.

This ignoramus doesn't even know the most basic facts. We on this forum know more than he does about the Constitution and how government works. trump is Dumb Dumb Dumb. With a capital "D".

"...during Tuesday's town hall interview on CNN, Donald Trump – no mere citizen but the leading presidential candidate in the Republican Party – revealed once again his knowledge deficit about our political system. For those who skipped that middle hour of nonsensical rhetoric, an Army veteran and current Marquette University student asked an important, albeit simple question, "What are the top three functions of the United States government?"

Trump was stumped. With the exception of national security, he couldn't seem to think of what other key duties were within the federal government's purview. What about promoting justice (equality under the law), encouraging interstate commerce and managing our international relations? What about, in language more common among the framers, ensuring "domestic tranquility"?

Simply put, he seemed to not understand that when our government was established, it had only three cabinet departments – Defense (War), State and Treasury – because these are the feds' main jobs: conducting war, promoting peace and encouraging prosperity.

Further, the other two functions that Trump named – health care and education – are not only not central to the national government's mission, but they are generally understood, by an overwhelming majority of conservatives, to be activities that fall within the states' police power. In other words, Trump's answers showed that his political ideology is much closer to Democratic presidential hopeful and independent Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders than to former President Ronald Reagan.

Perhaps, it shouldn't be surprising. Throughout his campaign and without much consequence, Trump has been dismissive of separation of powers, civil liberties and civil rights. In fact, the only time he has really been pressed on constitutional issues was when he was forced to walk back his bluster earlier this month, after he had wrongly assumed that a president could order the military to torture prisoners of war."

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blog...erstand-the-us-political-system-or-government
 
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