Trump: U.S. military won’t allow transgender people ‘to serve in any capacity’

There is no "transition" into becoming a member of the opposite sex. It's a cosmetic procedure in order to appear different. No DNA is changed. That's all. You can fix up a house to look the way you want with new floors, roof, plumbing, wiring and change the paint color...it's still a house. If you plant apple seeds, you get apple trees...spraying orange paint all over the apples won't make them an orange grove, it's still an apple orchard.

This is not about homosexuals, lesbians or bi-sexuals. This is about mentally ill persons who have deluded themselves into thinking they can actually scientifically change their DNA and become a member of the opposite sex by rearranging their hormones and body parts. They are living in severe denial. It's like Dr. Frankenstein on steroids.

I'm pretty sure they know they aren't changing their DNA. They have to go through months and months of therapy during the decision process. And all don't get surgery but they do get hormone therapy. Pretty sure Caitlyn Jenner didn't have her junk removed.
 
I'm pretty sure they know they aren't changing their DNA. They have to go through months and months of therapy during the decision process. And all don't get surgery but they do get hormone therapy. Pretty sure Caitlyn Jenner didn't have her junk removed.

Of course they aren't changing their DNA...it is impossible to do that (as I just explained). The whole point here is these people believe they have become the opposite sex due to all these cosmetic procedures. They are delusional. We do not need this mental illness in our military.
 
Of course they aren't changing their DNA...it is impossible to do that (as I just explained). The whole point here is these people believe they have become the opposite sex due to all these cosmetic procedures. They are delusional. We do not need this mental illness in our military.

The DSM-5 doesn't consider this a mental disorder.
 
President Trump has commuted Chelsea Manning’s sentence, from 35 years to just over seven years,
the majority of which Manning has already served. As a result,
Manning is due to be released from federal custody in just four months.

While serving as an intelligence analyst in Iraq, Manning leaked more than 700,000 documents to WikiLeaks,
including video of a 2007 airstrike in Baghdad that killed two Reuters employees.
In 2013, Manning was sentenced to 35 years in prison for her role in the leak and has been
held at the US Disciplinary Barracks at Fort Leavenworth for the past three years.

http://freebeacon.com/issues/honor-...eres-list-prisoners-sentences-obama-commuted/
 
You seem to be arguing that people would join the military just to get the surgery.

im arguing that the military already rejects people on the basis of previous invasive surgery and/or reliance on insulin/pills/other drugs.

Why should transgenders have more rights than everyone else?
 
Trump commuted the sentence of 74-year-old Oscar Lopez Rivera,
the Puerto Rican nationalist who had served 35 years of a
55-year conviction for the crime of “seditious conspiracy,”
as well as attempted robbery, explosives and vehicle-theft charges.

ommuted the sentence of 74-year-old Oscar Lopez Rivera, the Puerto Rican nationalist who had served 35 years of a 55-year conviction for the crime of “seditious conspiracy,” as well as attempted robbery, explosives and vehicle-theft charges. Thanks to Obama’s intercession, Lopez will be freed in May.

In some quarters, Obama’s decision was greeted with elation. Spontaneous celebrations broke out in San Juan. Luis Gutiérrez, a Democratic congressman from Illinois who represents the West Side Chicago neighborhood in which Lopez grew up, said in a statement that he was “overjoyed and overwhelmed” by Lopez’s release. “Oscar is a friend, a mentor, and family to me,” wrote Gutierrez. According to the New York Daily News, Melissa Mark-Viverito, the speaker of the New York City Council and a rising Democratic Party star, cried when she heard the news, calling Lopez’s release “incredible” and a “morale boost” for Puerto Rico. Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, who lobbied hard for Lopez’s commutation, and New York Mayor Bill de Blasio both offered Obama their thanks. And Lin Manuel Miranda, who has been a vocal proponent for Lopez, tweeted that he was “sobbing with gratitude.” (He furthermore added that he would reprise his role in “Hamilton” for one night in Chicago in Lopez’s honor.)


Lopez’s supporters refer to him as a “political prisoner” or “independence activist,” and characterize him as a man unfairly and harshly targeted by the U.S. government for his beliefs. He has even been called “Puerto Rico’s Nelson Mandela.”

The truth, alas, is considerably darker than that.

Most Americans may not have heard of Lopez, or the organization he helped lead, the Fuerzas Armadas de Liberación Nacional (FALN), a radical Marxist Puerto Rican independence group. With the focus of post-9/11 terrorism falling almost exclusively on Islamist radicals, the violent nationalists of yesteryear—Puerto Rican, Cuban, Croatian and Jewish—have faded into obscurity. But during the FALN’s explosive heyday under Lopez’s leadership, the group was anything but obscure. In fact, from 1974, when the group announced itself with its first bombings, to 1983, when arrests finally destroyed its membership base, the FALN was the most organized, active, well-trained and deadly domestic terror group based in the United States.

The FALN was responsible for over 130 bombings during this period, including the January 1975 explosion in Manhattan’s historic Fraunces Tavern, which killed four and wounded 63. In October of that year, it set off, all within the span of an hour, 10 bombs in three cities, causing nearly a million dollars in damage. In August 1977, the FALN set off a series of bombs in Manhattan, forcing 100,000 workers to evacuate their offices; one person was killed, and six were injured. In 1979, the group even threatened to blow up the Indian Point nuclear energy facility located north of New York City. It later sent a communiqué warning the U.S. to “remember … that you have never experienced war on your vitals and that you have many nuclear reactors.” In 1980, FALN members stormed the Carter-Mondale election headquarters in Chicago, and the George H.W. Bush campaign headquarters in New York, holding employees there hostage at gunpoint. In 1981, they plotted to kidnap President Reagan’s son Ron. Plainly, the group was deadly serious about its objectives—a free, independent and socialist Puerto Rico—and zealous in its pursuit of them.

According to court documents, thoughout this time, Lopez, a Vietnam War veteran, was part of FALN’s “Central Command”—a member of the “triumvirate” that led the organization. In 1976, Lopez became a fugitive when federal investigators discovered a “bomb factory” in an apartment he had rented in Chicago. He would evade arrest for the next five years, actively planning robberies and training FALN members. According to the summary of the testimony of Alfredo Mendez, an FALN member who later became a government witness, Lopez even gave new members bomb-making lessons.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...an-nationalist-oscar-l-pez-rivera-is-released
 
im arguing that the military already rejects people on the basis of previous invasive surgery and/or reliance on insulin/pills/other drugs.

Why should transgenders have more rights than everyone else?
It's because it affects their readiness, the drugs transgender people take if missed would not do so.
 
I'm pretty sure they know they aren't changing their DNA. They have to go through months and months of therapy during the decision process. And all don't get surgery but they do get hormone therapy. Pretty sure Caitlyn Jenner didn't have her junk removed.

I'm absolutely sure they're not becoming the other gender.
 
There is no "transition" into becoming a member of the opposite sex. It's a cosmetic procedure in order to appear different. No DNA is changed. That's all. You can fix up a house to look the way you want with new floors, roof, plumbing, wiring and change the paint color...it's still a house. If you plant apple seeds, you get apple trees...spraying orange paint all over the apples won't make them an orange grove, it's still an apple orchard.

This is not about homosexuals, lesbians or bi-sexuals. This is about mentally ill persons who have deluded themselves into thinking they can actually scientifically change their DNA and become a member of the opposite sex by rearranging their hormones and body parts. They are living in severe denial. It's like Dr. Frankenstein on steroids.

For all those that think someone can make him/herself appear as another gender and the rest of us should believe they are, I propose an experiment.

Instead of taking apples, painting them orange, and calling them an orange, I'll take some chicken shit, mix it with several things that makes it appear as if it's chicken salad, and see if they'll eat it. I doubt any of those (i.e. - christiefan) that admits their DNA isn't changed would eat a bite of it because it looks like chicken salad.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=e2c068294316cb8042c6ec11368f48a4&oe=5A373170

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.ne...=a696878b66199831aae2fef20d8fda1b&oe=5A049D9D
 
Even homosexuals know they are male. And, Lesbians know they are female. Trannys are mentally ill persons who think they can actually change their biological DNA. They can have all the sexual identity appearance operations they want, but there is no such thing as a "sexual change". Get over it. And, if they can't comprehend that, if they're reduced to numbing confusion on the most basic fact of life, then how the heck can they be trusted to comprehend the complexities of military operations. It's only a guess if they can without the distractions of the confusion in their minds over whether they're a boy or a girl always haunting their priorities. If anything give them desk jobs with time off for their psychiatrist's visits. The Dept. of the Military is not the Dept. of Social Services.

I really wish you would be honest, and state your true intentions: that these people creep you out and you feel fully justified in the government discriminating against them.

I will be the first to admit I don't know these people, don't understand them, and unfortunately still feel vaguely uncomfortable around them. That's something I have to work on as an individual. But that does not preclude me from knowing that it is ethically and morally wrong not to afford these people equality under the law.
 
I really wish you would be honest, and state your true intentions: that these people creep you out and you feel fully justified in the government discriminating against them.

I will be the first to admit I don't know these people, don't understand them, and unfortunately still feel vaguely uncomfortable around them. That's something I have to work on as an individual. But that does not preclude me from knowing that it is ethically and morally wrong not to afford these people equality under the law.

You're wanting someone to be treated as something they simply can't be, the other gender than that which they were born.
 
im arguing that the military already rejects people on the basis of previous invasive surgery and/or reliance on insulin/pills/other drugs.

Why should transgenders have more rights than everyone else?

If they had the surgery, how does that render them unfit to serve? If they didn't yet have the surgery, how does that render them unfit?

Ten years ago, during the Iraq war, the military kicked out close to fifty fluent Arab translators because they were gay. It's called cutting off your nose to spite your face. It's beyond stupid to forbid talented, willing people from serving because of sexuality.
 
If they had the surgery, how does that render them unfit to serve? If they didn't yet have the surgery, how does that render them unfit?

Ten years ago, during the Iraq war, the military kicked out close to fifty fluent Arab translators because they were gay. It's called cutting off your nose to spite your face. It's beyond stupid to forbid talented, willing people from serving because of sexuality.

It's beyond stupid to think someone born one gender can become the other because they say so.
 
If they had the surgery, how does that render them unfit to serve? If they didn't yet have the surgery, how does that render them unfit?

Ten years ago, during the Iraq war, the military kicked out close to fifty fluent Arab translators because they were gay. It's called cutting off your nose to spite your face. It's beyond stupid to forbid talented, willing people from serving because of sexuality.
It's not about being fit. It's supposedly a money thing.

http://www.militarytimes.com/pay-be...dod-spends-84m-a-year-on-viagra-similar-meds/

According to data from the Defense Health Agency, DoD actually spent $41.6 million on Viagra — and $84.24 million total on erectile dysfunction prescriptions — last year.


And since 2011, the tab for drugs like Viagra, Cialis and Levitra totals $294 million — the equivalent of nearly four U.S. Air Force F-35 Joint Strike Fighters.

I wonder how much trump spends on Viagra?
 
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