Black NFL players send Goodell a memo demanding racial justice!! NFL is 70% black

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The Latest: More than 200 NFL players don't stand for anthem

When you add up the numbers, about one in eight NFL players did not stand for the national anthem this weekend.

AP reporters and photographers counted the players kneeling or sitting at every NFL game Sunday. With one more game to go Monday night, already more than 200 players chose to protest. A handful of others raised their fists.

Last week, only six NFL players protested, continuing the movement started last year by former San Francisco quarterback Colin Kaepernick.

But President Donald Trump's comments and tweets saying protesting players should be fired sparked a massive show of defiance. Three teams stayed off the field for the anthems entirely. Other teams locked arms, with some players standing, some kneeling and some sitting.
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/latest-24-nfl-players-kneel-anthem-london-50056552
 
blackascoal said:
The Latest: More than 200 NFL players don't stand for anthem

When you add up the numbers, about one in eight NFL players did not stand for the national anthem this weekend.

AP reporters and photographers counted the players kneeling or sitting at every NFL game Sunday. With one more game to go Monday night, already more than 200 players chose to protest. A handful of others raised their fists.

Last week, only six NFL players protested, continuing the movement started last year by former San Francisco quarterback Colin Kaepernick.

But President Donald Trump's comments and tweets saying protesting players should be fired sparked a massive show of defiance. Three teams stayed off the field for the anthems entirely. Other teams locked arms, with some players standing, some kneeling and some sitting.
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/latest-24-nfl-players-kneel-anthem-london-50056552
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I have a little math problem for you lol.

How many ticket holders are there for each NFL player?
 
blackascoal said:
Not my problem if you feel the need to run away from your own side.
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Let's go with your version, that is all political to get more liberals elected into office, even though the protests started under Obama.

How do you get to the end game vis a vis the police? Take a city like Oakland. There hasn't been an elected republican there for decades. The state of California is fully run by democrats and democrats have controlled the state legislature for 45 years.

So where is reform going to come from for the OPD?
 
I think it is funny that anyone would think black people in this country are "oppressed". Talk about fake news.

BAC Panther comes on here bragging about his BMW or mercedes or whatever the fuck he says he drives and then cries about him being oppressed. He should sing that sob song to real oppressed peoples
 
cawacko said:
Wow
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I love that BAC Panther is showing the board the racist that he truly is.

He left here a martyr can came back and totally exposed himself. I couldn't be happier.

The politics of this will not end well for the NFL or the players. This needs to be broken down into two fundamental areas

1) The principle of free speech. Nobody would argue that players have the right to protest and participate in political discourse. However, as employees of each individual team the owner can tell them to stand down and they have ZERO recourse. There is a clause in every players contract that they are to avoid behavior that looks poorly on the NFL. Now obviously because of our political charged country whether this looks badly on the NFL is open to interpretation. Given the ratings decline of NFL games, I would say so far it isn't looking good of the NFL

2) The politics. While nobody disagrees with their right to protest what people are taking issue with is their target and how they are doing it. The bottom line is many Americans look at the flag as a source of pride. That a few SJWs don't is irrelevant. The NFL will lose bigly on the politics of this. The NFL has spent years building its brand and Goodell is letting it go to shit all because Colin Kaepernick wanted to get a little pussy.
 
blackascoal said:
Like that? :0)

How about, if you don't like black athletes, watch golf.

This issue IS about race.

Are you sure you really want to have this conversation with me?

Your choice.
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What conversation is that? Once again you clearly are reading something that I never said. This may come as a shock to you considering how old I am but I didn't write the constitution so no, I'm not going to watch hockey because you don't like the fact that private employers can hire and fire who they like
 
cawacko said:
What conversation is that? Once again you clearly are reading something that I never said. This may come as a shock to you considering how old I am but I didn't write the constitution so no, I'm not going to watch hockey because you don't like the fact that private employers can hire and fire who they like
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Question: Have they done that?

How about NO .. AND, the FACT the you completely ignored is the truth that many owners were standing arm in arm with their players in protest .. wanna' know why .. because in spite of what owners could do, players have leverage because they make big money for the owners as they operate the most watched sport in America.

Hit me back with your theory when it actually happens .. which I doubt, but if at all possible how about keeping this conversation in the now. The NFL has no policy that denies players freedom of speech, thus, that speech IS protected by the First Amendment.

This IS about race, but if you'd rather pretend it's about the flag and business, I do understand.
 
oh man. first amendment protects political speech from government intrusion.
Meaning you can get on your corner soapbox or internet platform and shout out what you like.

NFL can fire for "conduct unbecoming" - expressing politics in a manner/venue detrimental to the league.

Of course it's not going to fire it's talent, or stir up labor relations -so it has no choice but to support kneelers.

What's going to be interesting to watch is what the public ( fans) do.. they control the outcome by voting with their dollars
 
blackascoal said:
Question: Have they done that?

How about NO .. AND, the FACT the you completely ignored is the truth that many owners were standing arm in arm with their players in protest .. wanna' know why .. because in spite of what owners could do, players have leverage because they make big money for the owners as they operate the most watched sport in America.

Hit me back with your theory when it actually happens .. which I doubt, but if at all possible how about keeping this conversation in the now. The NFL has no policy that denies players freedom of speech, thus, that speech IS protected by the First Amendment.

This IS about race, but if you'd rather pretend it's about the flag and business, I do understand.
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I responded to your comment about constitutionally protected rights. What I said was factual, I wasn't making a moral judgement. I also said the owners and league are standing behind the players. So I'm not exactly sure what you're getting all pissed off about.
 
Trump's Mostly False claim that NFL ratings are 'way down'

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According to ESPN, NFL game broadcasters saw an average year-on-year drop in television viewership last season of 8 percent. Fox saw the lowest ratings since 2008 and ESPN since 2005.

But that excluded Thursday Night Football games, which Paulsen said likely would lower the percentage, and alternate viewing platforms.

"A variety of factors made the comparison versus last year skewed, including streaming on Twitter and a new partner, NBC," ESPN reported.

A new Nielsen study measuring audiences in bars, restaurants, gyms and other out-of-home venues showed that NFL viewership nearly matched 2015’s numbers. However, they didn’t compute out-of-home numbers for 2015, suggesting there might still be some discrepancy.

It’s still a modest decline, according to Paulsen, because the NFL’s ratings are usually so strong — the NFL is the most popular televised sports event in the United States. He also pointed out that isolating the NFL made little sense.

"I think it’s really important to note the NFL is not declining while other leagues are increasing," Paulsen said. "NASCAR ratings are in the cellar right now. The NBA had some of its lowest rated games ever on network television last year … It’s an industry-wide phenomenon and the NFL isn’t immune to it anymore."

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Our ruling

Trump said "NFL attendance and ratings are WAY DOWN. Boring games yes, but many stay away because they love our country."

Ratings were down 8 percent in 2016, but experts said the drop was modest and in line with general ratings for the sports industry. The NFL remains the most watched televised sports event in the United States.

Ratings in 2017 so far suggest a similar year-on-year drop, but experts say it’s too early to tell, and external factors like Hurricane Irma, which coincided with the season’s first week, may help explain the drop.

NFL game attendance dropped slightly from 2016 to 2017, and rose from 2015 to 2016.

As for political motivation, there’s little evidence to suggest people are boycotting the NFL. Most of the professional sports franchises are dealing with declines in popularity.

We rate this claim Mostly False.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...-mostly-false-claim-nfl-ratings-are-way-down/
 
cawacko said:
I responded to your comment about constitutionally protected rights. What I said was factual, I wasn't making a moral judgement. I also said the owners and league are standing behind the players. So I'm not exactly sure what you're getting all pissed off about.
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Knowing you.

Until owners start firing people for quiet peaceful protest, players stand behind the First Amendment like everybody else .. and that's not going to happen.

Question: what happens to good players that an owner decides to fire?

He gets picked up by another team that needs him.

The First Amendment is a minor detail in this.
 
blackascoal said:
Knowing you.

Until owners start firing people for quiet peaceful protest, players stand behind the First Amendment like everybody else .. and that's not going to happen.

Question: what happens to good players that an owner decides to fire?

He gets picked up by another team that needs him.

The First Amendment is a minor detail in this.
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Knowing me what? I'd love to hear this. Please do share.
 
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