Oklahoma teacher protest

Mott the Hoople said:
You're right that more money isn't the solution. It's the inequity of a system based on property taxes. Wealthy communities like Dublin or New Albany are going to excel as they have lots of money but poor communities like Portsmouth are going to struggle. So how do we spread that money around in an equitable fashion? Or should we? Do we need to look at alternatives to funding our schools based on property taxes? In Ohio the inequalities are extreme as we have some of the best public schools and some of the worst and the difference is directly proportional to the financial prosperity (or lack there of) of those communities.


In other word kids who live in prosperous communities like Dublin are receiving excellent educations (better than most private schools), are fully funded and even have endowments, in beautifully maintained and modern facilities, while poor communities can't even pay for basics like teachers salaries, school supplies and facility maintenance.
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Our school taxes are high, as I'm sure yours our. Our schools are Great. That's why we moved here. That's why many move here (and move out when the kids are all out of school-graduations banners and for sale signs go up right around the same time;) But it's not just just a monetary issue...but I'm sure you know that, especially is you have children in the schools. Or you attended school there.
A couple of miles away in another direction it's an entirely different world. In every way...
 
other countries fully fund their public educations and get more for that money than we get from our public and private funding combined



Its a no brainer

just like public health care
 
TOP said:
Our school taxes are high, as I'm sure yours our. Our schools are Great. That's why we moved here. That's why many move here (and move out when the kids are all out of school-graduations banners and for sale signs go up right around the same time;) But it's not just just a monetary issue...but I'm sure you know that, especially is you have children in the schools. Or you attended school there.
A couple of miles away in another direction it's an entirely different world. In every way...
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link to proof of your claims

FACTS
 
leaningright said:
I would add to this that we have to make better math and science teachers out of our elementary teachers. For me that means departmentalizing from about the 4th grade up.
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That's sounds like an interesting idea. Tell me more on how you would do that? What exactly would you departmentalize?
 
evince said:
other countries fully fund their public educations and get more for that money than we get from our public and private funding combined



Its a no brainer

just like public health care
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Details Desh. The devil is in the details. How exactly will you fully fund those schools. Will you use another form of taxation other than property taxes or will will appropriate funds from wealth communities property taxes and distribute them to poorer communities? Would the Federal government pay for public schools across the country via income taxes? Excise taxes? Will local communities exert local control if the Feds pay for Education?

Like I said spare me the glib catch phrases and tell me how you will fully fund those school and provide the messy details.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
That's sounds like an interesting idea. Tell me more on how you would do that? What exactly would you departmentalize?
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Math and science for one. Have an elementary education major specialize in the area of mathematics for, say, 4th-6th grades. Then use these “specialists” to teach the math that these kids need at those levels. Either have the kids change rooms or the teacher change rooms throughout the day ... or half day if that’s better for them, so the kids get a proper introduction to the background mathematics that they need. We have very good upper elementary teachers but like one would think, they have their strengths and weaknesses. I work with several elementary teachers from other schools as well, helping implement some TI technology in their classrooms. Same story. As a result I get kids in JH who don’t have as good a background as they should have because some difficult objectives have been glossed over and not taught thoroughly. This is fixable, IMO. I’d do the same for science and other specific subject areas at that level. The old days where one (usually lady) taught the same class all day to 4th-6th graders have passed. We are requiring that our kids know more now so it follows that our teachers should know more.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
Of course she did. She wanted to be a teacher from age 7 and up, never wavered, never considered anything else. She doesn't complain about the salary; that's *my* job on her behalf (as well as other teachers too).
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Well if she knew what she got into and went in eyes wide open, why don’t you shut the fuck up, stop hovering and mind your own fucking business Mrs Kravitz?
 
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