Conservatives against Trump

cawacko said:
I don't know if the dictionary has a term for American conservatism. I hesitate using Wikipedia again but I thought this paragraph sums it up pretty well:

American conservatism is a broad system of political beliefs in the United States that is characterized by respect for American traditions, republicanism, support for Judeo-Christian values,[1] moral absolutism,[2] free markets and free trade,[3][4] anti-communism,[4][5] individualism,[4] advocacy of American exceptionalism,[6] and a defense of Western culture from the perceived threats posed by socialism, authoritarianism, and moral relativism.[7]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_in_the_United_States
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The radicalized right wing has bastardized the definition of conservatism. They say you can't be a conservative if you're Pro choice, anti NRA or believe in climate change.
 
DonaldvoTrumpovich said:
Can someone be neutral on abortion, climate change and gun control and still be considered a conservative?

Those seem to be at the top of the conservative totem pole but they don't push my buttons. I'm more concerned about government spending, corruption and waste, lower taxes, term limits, reduce entitlements, reduce defense spending, reform Social Security, balanced budget amendment
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I think the real issue isn't what modern Conservatism is, or how it's changed. It's the fact that Republicans in Washington continue to support this POTUS, solely because there is a slim chance that they will get 1/10 of their conservative issues rammed through, despite having to ignore the other 90% of the disgusting antics coming out of the White House.

Hell...they would have done better by simply compromising with Obama, or Clinton.
 
DonaldvoTrumpovich said:
Can someone be neutral on abortion, climate change and gun control and still be considered a conservative?

Those seem to be at the top of the conservative totem pole but they don't push my buttons. I'm more concerned about government spending, corruption and waste, lower taxes, term limits, reduce entitlements, reduce defense spending, reform Social Security, balanced budget amendment
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quit making sense. it befuddles the conservative minds and they run away to watch hannity reruns.
 
noise said:
:rofl2: @Flake..and take John McCain with you. good riddance. bye. do not write
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Please do not insult a brave american veteran hero. It's deplorable and disgusting. BTW, where were you when the bombs were bursting? You sound like a trust fund silver spoon frat boy. You>bone spurs?
 
Oracle Of Delphi said:
Please do not insult a brave american veteran hero. It's deplorable and disgusting. BTW, where were you when the bombs were bursting? You sound like a trust fund silver spoon frat boy. You>bone spurs?
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Noise is just a fucking Russian troll. He's not an American so he doesn't care about insulting brave American heroes. I wish all the Russian trolls on this forum would go back to Vladivostok and crawl up Putin's ass where they belong.
 
Cypress said:
I just read Encylopeida Brittanica's definition for conservatism, and I may have missed it, but I did not see anything about tax policy, trade policy, deregulation, trickle down economic, military spending, or any of the other issues that cocktail circuit Republicans imagine defines conservatism.

Conservatives, throughout history, has been tied to the themes of tradition, fealty to existing institutions, places value on stability and continuity, and resistance to change, particularly radical or revolutionary change.

Historically, conservatives were associated with pro-monarchy, counter-revolutionary forces in the wake of the French Revolution and the revolts by the proletariat and the incipient middle classes. Basically, conservatives can be considered to be the pro-British, royalist Tories of the American Revolution.

Tradtionalist, Resistance to change. Eternal hostility to change. Loyalty to traditional, historic institutions. Yep. That is, generally, very much in line with what I said, although I think I added in xenophobia and racism - which really, when you think about it, is a manifestation of conservatives hostility to change... and loyalty to historic, even archaic institutions that did not share power with traditionally under-represented groups.
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Well said!

I think of them as the party of social darwinism.
 
cawacko said:
I don't know if the dictionary has a term for American conservatism. I hesitate using Wikipedia again but I thought this paragraph sums it up pretty well:

American conservatism is a broad system of political beliefs in the United States that is characterized by respect for American traditions, republicanism, support for Judeo-Christian values,[1] moral absolutism,[2] free markets and free trade,[3][4] anti-communism,[4][5] individualism,[4] advocacy of American exceptionalism,[6] and a defense of Western culture from the perceived threats posed by socialism, authoritarianism, and moral relativism.[7]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_in_the_United_States
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Well, it sounds good on paper but that's not the way it really is now. They need to update the definition to the time when trump rode the escalator.
 
cawacko said:
I don't know if the dictionary has a term for American conservatism. I hesitate using Wikipedia again but I thought this paragraph sums it up pretty well:

American conservatism is a broad system of political beliefs in the United States that is characterized by respect for American traditions, republicanism, support for Judeo-Christian values,[1] moral absolutism,[2] free markets and free trade,[3][4] anti-communism,[4][5] individualism,[4] advocacy of American exceptionalism,[6] and a defense of Western culture from the perceived threats posed by socialism, authoritarianism, and moral relativism.[7]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism_in_the_United_States
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Well, it sounds good on paper but that's not the way it really is now. They need to update the definition to the time when trump rode the escalator.
 
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