U.S. in Early Talks for Summit Between Trump and Putin

noise said:
It's a good look of Putin the man/leader, and how he deals with the oligarchs as well.

But realpolitik doesn't require us to deal with Russian corruption/ elections / internals
It's only concerned with the bi-lateral relationship
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You might watch the video... Putin is a criminal.. and might be the richest in the world.
 
Frank Apisa said:
What a joke. People like you would be pissing and moaning if these initiatives were the work of a Democrat. And if the Democrat were Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton...your ilk would be going ballistic.
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don't show your ignorance any more then usual Frank.
If Obama ( McCain /Nuland) hadn't decided to meddle in the Ukraine maidan the Crimea annexation wouldn't have been needed by Putin, and relations wouldn't be in Cold War 2 status
 
Yaya said:
He never went broke. And his real estate holdings are vast. You're clueless because of TDS.
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noise said:
lol...blah blah blah.
don't insult my intelligence with your lack of understanding of the so called "pitfalls"..
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I don't need to. You do a perfectly good job of it all by yourself every time you mindlessly kiss Putin's ass and swallow Trump's gizz.

Fortunately for you, given there's not much there to insult anyway, it doesn't require a lot of effort on your part.

noise said:
I'm working. deregs,tax reform,NK talks..gotta go
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:palm:
 
noise said:
Iv'e seen it, thanks. It doesn't matter in terms of US/Russian relations ( realpolitik)
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Because a sleazy, murdering despotic criminal is just soooo trustworthy, eh?

Let me guess, you looked into his eyes and saw his soul....?

Idiot.
 
noise said:
don't show your ignorance any more then usual Frank.
If Obama ( McCain /Nuland) hadn't decided to meddle in the Ukraine maidan the Crimea annexation wouldn't have been needed by Putin, and relations wouldn't be in Cold War 2 status
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If the initiatives with Russia and NK were made by Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton...people like you would be going ape shit...and you know it.

The ignorance is all yours...and showing most of the time.
 
Frank Apisa said:
If the initiatives with Russia and NK were made by Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton...people like you would be going ape shit...and you know it.

The ignorance is all yours...and showing most of the time.
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Dude, every president since Clinton has tried to mend fences with the Russians. Don’t you remember Hillary’s goofy reset button? Obama’s off-mic reference to ‘being more flexible’ after his re-election? Bush II ‘looked into Putin’s soul’ or some nonsense.

But it’s different with Trump. The Resistance has sent us back to the McCarthy era with their partisan Russian paranoia.

Noise is right: there’s nothing to lose with a Trump-Putin summit and everything to gain.
 
Darth Omar said:
Dude, every president since Clinton has tried to mend fences with the Russians. Don’t you remember Hillary’s goofy reset button? Obama’s off-mic reference to ‘being more flexible’ after his re-election? Bush II ‘looked into Putin’s soul’ or some nonsense.
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"Dude"... none of those Presidents were the kind of amatuer buffoon TV game show host empty suits that Trump is. They also weren't beholden to or in debt to the Kremlin for rigging the election that put them in office. Trump is an actor playing at being President and a con man who duped millions of simpletons and rubes into buying his sales pitch.

Darth Omar said:
But it’s different with Trump. The Resistance has sent us back to the McCarthy era with their partisan Russian paranoia.

Noise is right: there’s nothing to lose with a Trump-Putin summit and everything to gain.
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Utter horse shit. I doubt you were even alive in the 1950's or even understand what McCarthyism was, otherwise you wouldn't spout such absurd hyperbolic nonsense.

Noise couldn't be more wrong. With Trump in charge, there is everything.... and I mean EVERYTHING to lose.

Noise is just that. A lot of noise.
 
Nomad said:
"Dude"... none of those Presidents were the kind of amatuer buffoon TV game show host empty suits that Trump is. They also weren't beholden to or in debt to the Kremlin for rigging the election that put them in office. Trump is an actor playing at being President and a con man who duped millions of simpletons and rubes into buying his sales pitch.

Utter horse shit. I doubt you were even alive in the 1950's or even understand what McCarthyism was, otherwise you wouldn't spout such absurd hyperbolic nonsense.

Noise couldn't be more wrong. With Trump in charge, there is everything.... and I mean EVERYTHING to lose.

Noise is just that. A lot of noise.
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McCarthyism is the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

You and your leftie buddies own it lol.

Your McCarthy-ist babble aside, my point stands: Clinton, Bush II and Obama all wanted to get along with Putin.
 
Nomad said:
Because a sleazy, murdering despotic criminal is just soooo trustworthy, eh?

Let me guess, you looked into his eyes and saw his soul....?

Idiot.
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you show a gross inability to understand treaties. Reagan said it best "trust but verify" -
but even if you don't trust them, write it up and verify.

One thing i've noticed from Dems is they do not want to talk to lil kim or Putin - but were willing
to deal with Iran, whom is the real danger in terms of terrorism and the middle east hegemony.

It's like you guys have ceased all reasonable attempts at hoping for Trump diplomacy initiatives
just because he's Trump.

It's bad enough to do that on domestic policy -the Rebubs did the same with their obstructionism;
but this is a new level of seething hatred coupled with attempted de-legitimization

:pussyhat:
 
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