occupation of Germany?? lol
it's Congressional overreach into POTUS role as commander and chief.
Congress can't do it's legislative functions -but meddles in a POTUS purview
Europeans leaders worry Trump wants to fulfill promise to bring American troops home
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Congress can't do it's legislative functions -but meddles in a POTUS purview
escalation in Afghanistan? No this isn't tens of thousands like Obama did-
this is maybe 200ok that continue in a SUPPORT role for the ANAF..
I agree we need to get out of Syria -the warmongers ( including Bolton) want us to remain
there as a "presence" to curb Iran - which it doesn't,and we don't need to be there.
We don't need more troops in Germany -we don't need more in eastern Europe.
Obama came up with this nutty "European Reassurance Initiative" that is now an extra a $5billion for NATO per year. Add that to the Russiaphobic increases and we are way over utilized in Europe.
Crimea was put to a vote. It's historic Russian The Crimean referendum passed easily
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_status_referendum,_2014
Crimean status referendum, 2014. A controversial referendum on the status of Crimea was held on March 16, 2014, by the legislature of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and by the local government of Sevastopol (both subdivisions of Ukraine). ... The referendum is not internationally recognized by most countries.
hvilleherb
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Trump is right. NATO is a relic of the cold war. Like unions, it once served a purpose and is no longer needed.
Airstrip One
Completely Effed
I'm not normally a fan of the War Powers Act, etc. However, these bases are mostly just there to project US power, and don't really serve a strategic purpose. So, it really does boil down to the Congressional purse strings.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/dougba...roops-still-stationed-in-europe/#613b2e0313aa
The U.S. armed forces always will need to train. Doing so is an imperative for meeting objectives and reducing casualties in a range of operations. However, the objective of multilateral training is far less clear.
Assembling allies once was a means to achieve the end of security. Today Washington collects “allies” as an end in itself—for instance, bringing into NATO new states with more strategic liabilities than assets. The Bush administration even pushed to include the country of Georgia, which started a war with Russia four years ago, a mad policy which would needlessly risk confrontation with a nuclear-armed power.
How far can this revisionism go? Russia attacked Georgia in 2008. It was the usual story - they were supporting separatists, maintaining the peace, that sort of thing.
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a) Then why was it not reported in the U.S. or U.K. press?
b) Then why was Russian military involved?
c) Then upon what are the Western sanctions on Russia based? Please bear in mind, if it was just that nasty @$$ nigger president that $#@!ed up, Western Europe would not have joined in. But our trading partners, allies, and all of NATO took alarmed notice. WHY, if what you pretend is true?
Leonthecat
Racism Watchdog
they were.
but NATO is always in the background,Georgia is still looking for membership if I recall (?)
Leonthecat
Racism Watchdog
How do you feel about the Poles invading Germany in 1939? That was shocking!
western press is Russiaphobic - they aren't going to report anything except "Putin invades Ukraine"
that was the Little Green Men. no-insignia troops used to annex..why? Like everything else in Ukraine it's always a reaction to something else earlier.
In this case it was Russia seeing it's naval base at Sevastopol threatened due to US meddling in the Euromaidan (McCain again/Vicki Nuland's "Fuck the EU) and the meddling threw out Yanukovych etc, etc.
why do you ned to call Obama a ni**er?. The sanctions were put in because of the annexation of Crimea -
Merkel did not want them, but went along for unity purposes
FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
Literally there couldn't be a worse time to withdraw troops from Europe. We need bases in Poland and the Baltic states. I admit I had previously been in favor of withdrawing, and thought Russia was finally a responsible member of the national order. This was incredibly foolish, I'm glad that Bush Jr. won so that never came to pass. Trump just wants to give Europe to Russia, he is the enemy within.
FUCK THE POLICE
911 EVERY DAY
Jeez why do we even have multiple branches of government?? Why don't we just have a fascist dictatorship? I'm a conservative constitutionalist I'm so confrused!
annata isn't much of a history buff.
Poland and Romania were worth invading once, but never again, apparently.
Germany, no threat there, just two world wars so far.
Checks and balances, who needs them when you have a stable genius (who writes his own medical reports)?
I mean, this is different, donchaknow.
What a fucking moron.
Evince is right, you could only be a Russian agent.
Idiot, it is Commander in Chief.
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Why wouldn't they?
Perhaps after 70 years of totalitarianism you would be scared as well.
Since when do we only help those who can afford our help?
With Americans like you, who needs enemies?
Stupid motherfucker.
Georgia is right on the border of Russia,and stratles 2 continents.
Having NATO right up Putin's ass would be like having a Russian alliance in Quebec. No superpower can stand that.
Also what about Article 5? are we prepared to go into Georgia if Russia goes into Georgia again?
Do you want to risk a war over that?
Ignorant fool