NFL Going to Hell

"Yes the term "going to hell" is a phrase of speech." c #39
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Indeed, a metaphor in fact.
"It does not literally mean the game is ending tomorrow and the NFL will cease to exist." c
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Do things cease to exist when they change location?
"players safety is hugely important if you can't tackle the same will essentially cease to exist" c
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I acknowledge the risk.

The question is, can player safety be advanced substantially, without diluting the appeal of the game to the fans.

As an NFL fan (Go Sabres!) I hope the answer is yes.

BUT !!

Even without a single rule change, the NFL players can benefit THEMSELVES by simply substituting the butt-slap, for the helmet slap.
 
cawacko said:
Forget the protests on the right and left this personal foul call shows why the league will go to sh*t. If this is a PF they might as well play flag.
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Fuck the NFL, I don't sit for militarist homages to the power of the empire, some of us are old enough to recall when we found that unacceptable, authoritarian and indicative of tyranny.
 
sear said:
Indeed, a metaphor in fact.

Do things cease to exist when they change location?

I acknowledge the risk.

The question is, can player safety be advanced substantially, without diluting the appeal of the game to the fans.

As an NFL fan (Go Sabres!) I hope the answer is yes.

BUT !!

Even without a single rule change, the NFL players can benefit THEMSELVES by simply substituting the butt-slap, for the helmet slap.
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Sabers are NHL. Do you mean Bills?
 
I sure wish the NFL would have let Trump buy a team!
Between them keeping him out,and Obama ripping Trump a new one at the Media Prom.
We got this madman as President!
 
Mason Michaels said:
I sure wish the NFL would have let Trump buy a team!
Between them keeping him out,and Obama ripping Trump a new one at the Media Prom.
We got this madman as President!
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Considering he started the competing USFL back in the '80's? I don't know about that.
 
I wish the Lions didn't suck so much. I rarely watch sports at all anymore, but I really used to enjoy the NHL. Red Wings, and the Senators were the teams I liked. My Mom helped out at the Red Wings Summer Camp, in Northern Michigan. She got to get something signed by a choice player, or you can just settle for whoever signs it of a group. I gave her a composite hockey stick, and it came back littered with signatures all over the thing. The stick cost over a hundred bucks to begin with, so I wonder what all the signatures add.
 
cawacko said:
Forget the protests on the right and left this personal foul call shows why the league will go to sh*t. If this is a PF they might as well play flag.
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This is the first year in about 15 years that I won't be playing fantasy football.

The reasons are myriad; from the anthem policy, to the concussion cover-ups, to the weird and arbitrary rule changes, to the racist team names, to the way the NFL treats the players like chattel, to the tax breaks, to the taxpayer-funded stadiums, and to the fact that children are indoctrinated into a culture that literally kills them over time.

I just couldn't justify the "fun" I had examining stats and players given all that horrendous, awful shit.

Switching to watching the NBA (This year's playoffs were AH-MAH-ZING) and gonna give fantasy basketball a whirl.
 
"Sabers are NHL. Do you mean Bills?" JD #46
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a) Thanks for noticing. I'm impressed. I didn't think anyone would.

b) While I am indeed a fan of the NFL as a league, I'm not a dyed in the wool fan of any particular team. The NY Giants win against the Pats in the Superbowl several years ago was one of my all time favorites! Not because I'm a native New Yorker, born and raised. But just because iirc Brady / the Pats were undefeated that year, and New England's coach approached that game as a formality, like the outcome of the game was a foregone conclusion. Manning smacked him down HARD!

c) BUT !!
I think NHL is the more entertaining game. The play is more continuous, and the "bathroom" breaks (beer / kitchen) breaks are longer.

d) The Buffalo Sabres are my home team. And while I don't shun the Bills, I think the Giants are still the New York team to beat.

Go Sabres!

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So what 3 NFL rules changes do the players most need?

I think helmet-butting is severely dangerous. Why aren't players that helmet-butt another player ejected for the rest of the game? Or for 60 minutes of play?
 
LV426 said:
This is the first year in about 15 years that I won't be playing fantasy football.

The reasons are myriad; from the anthem policy, to the concussion cover-ups, to the weird and arbitrary rule changes, to the racist team names, to the way the NFL treats the players like chattel, to the tax breaks, to the taxpayer-funded stadiums, and to the fact that children are indoctrinated into a culture that literally kills them over time.

I just couldn't justify the "fun" I had examining stats and players given all that horrendous, awful shit.

Switching to watching the NBA (This year's playoffs were AH-MAH-ZING) and gonna give fantasy basketball a whirl.
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Football is America's number one sport but it is losing audience for many of the reasons listed above. There are also less kids playing it now (at least tackle) that won't show up in the quality of the product for a decade or two.
 
cawacko said:
Football is America's number one sport but it is losing audience for many of the reasons listed above. There are also less kids playing it now (at least tackle) that won't show up in the quality of the product for a decade or two.
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The american people are the product served up to the millionaire/billionaire owners.
 
Fentoine Lum said:
The american people are the product served up to the millionaire/billionaire owners.
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Sports have been around almost as long as people have. No one forces anyone to watch soccer, football, basketball, baseball etc. Being a sports fan does not exclude one from having other interests.
 
cawacko said:
Football is America's number one sport but it is losing audience for many of the reasons listed above. There are also less kids playing it now (at least tackle) that won't show up in the quality of the product for a decade or two.
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If I had children, I wouldn't let them play football. Way too dangerous. About as bad for kids' bodies as smoking, IMO. Think about all the concussions and brain damage a kid gets for the 12 or so years they play football as a child through high school. Thousands of hours...hundreds of hits...and very poor odds football will be the career. So these kids spend 12-16 years punishing their bodies and brains, on the slight chance they might make it to the NFL and actually play. Probably only about 1% of all kids who play football will actually make it a career, and less than 1/4 a percent will probably have careers long enough to give them enough of a financial cushion to deal with all the side effects of CTE.

It's just bad...I can't justify watching it anymore because all I think about is how much pain these guys must be in and play through. And the league doesn't give a shit about them once they're retired, and punishes them if they do something like smoke weed to dull the chronic pain.
 
cawacko said:
Sports have been around almost as long as people have. No one forces anyone to watch soccer, football, basketball, baseball etc. Being a sports fan does not exclude one from having other interests.
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The cathedral stadiums are funded via socialism.
 
LV426 said:
If I had children, I wouldn't let them play football. Way too dangerous. About as bad for kids' bodies as smoking, IMO. Think about all the concussions and brain damage a kid gets for the 12 or so years they play football as a child through high school. Thousands of hours...hundreds of hits...and very poor odds football will be the career. So these kids spend 12-16 years punishing their bodies and brains, on the slight chance they might make it to the NFL and actually play. Probably only about 1% of all kids who play football will actually make it a career, and less than 1/4 a percent will probably have careers long enough to give them enough of a financial cushion to deal with all the side effects of CTE.

It's just bad...I can't justify watching it anymore because all I think about is how much pain these guys must be in and play through. And the league doesn't give a shit about them once they're retired, and punishes them if they do something like smoke weed to dull the chronic pain.
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Why would our authoritarian power structure ever want to confront a non-brain damaged, clear headed, coherent population?
 
cawacko said:
Sports have been around almost as long as people have. No one forces anyone to watch soccer, football, basketball, baseball etc. Being a sports fan does not exclude one from having other interests.
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I agree with you 100% on this. I used to love watching football because I loved the brutality of it. But I reached my point with that brutality after talking with an ex-NFL player and hearing all the awful health problems he has...and he's only 29! He can barely move because his knees are utterly destroyed...he also said he has chronic memory loss and wild mood changes. He said the biggest mistake he made in his life was playing football. He said if he had to do it all over again, he wouldn't have ever played. Now he's on the cusp of age 30, with bad knees, and a pretty useless Communications degree from a Big 10 school. He sells cars now. It's sad and tragic because he is such a nice guy with only good intentions.
 
sear said:
a) Thanks for noticing. I'm impressed. I didn't think anyone would.

b) While I am indeed a fan of the NFL as a league, I'm not a dyed in the wool fan of any particular team. The NY Giants win against the Pats in the Superbowl several years ago was one of my all time favorites! Not because I'm a native New Yorker, born and raised. But just because iirc Brady / the Pats were undefeated that year, and New England's coach approached that game as a formality, like the outcome of the game was a foregone conclusion. Manning smacked him down HARD!

c) BUT !!
I think NHL is the more entertaining game. The play is more continuous, and the "bathroom" breaks (beer / kitchen) breaks are longer.

d) The Buffalo Sabres are my home team. And while I don't shun the Bills, I think the Giants are still the New York team to beat.

Go Sabres!

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So what 3 NFL rules changes do the players most need?

I think helmet-butting is severely dangerous. Why aren't players that helmet-butt another player ejected for the rest of the game? Or for 60 minutes of play?
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I'd make them sit out the game depending on the way it went about. If it was an accident I'd just bench them for awhile till their head clears up from the shock.

I'm pretty sure our Red Wings, got Hasek from the Sabers back when. I used to watch Hockey, until we got rid of cable.
 
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