NFL Going to Hell

Why would our authoritarian power structure ever want to confront a non-brain damaged, clear headed, coherent population?

The ex-NFL player I met told me that playing a game of football is like running full force into a brick wall for 4 hours a day. And that's just gameday...that's not counting all the contact drills during practices and training camp, and even the non-contact drills (because apparently, even in non-contact drills there's contact). And that's over at least 12 years + 4 years of college. So a 26-year old NFL player has probably played football for 20 years. I can't even begin to imagine how much pain their bodies must be in. 20 years of running into a brick wall...ugh.
 
If I had children, I wouldn't let them play football. Way too dangerous. About as bad for kids' bodies as smoking, IMO. Think about all the concussions and brain damage a kid gets for the 12 or so years they play football as a child through high school. Thousands of hours...hundreds of hits...and very poor odds football will be the career. So these kids spend 12-16 years punishing their bodies and brains, on the slight chance they might make it to the NFL and actually play. Probably only about 1% of all kids who play football will actually make it a career, and less than 1/4 a percent will probably have careers long enough to give them enough of a financial cushion to deal with all the side effects of CTE.

It's just bad...I can't justify watching it anymore because all I think about is how much pain these guys must be in and play through. And the league doesn't give a shit about them once they're retired, and punishes them if they do something like smoke weed to dull the chronic pain.

This becomes a cultural thing but you are right, for many kids their dreams are the NFL or bust. And as you stated the average career is about three years, if you are one of the lucky 1% to make it. Hey making $500K to $1M in your early 20's has you ahead of the game economically but it's not setting you up for life. I've worked with a handful of guys who played in the league but now have regular careers like everyone else. Even fewer make enough to retire off of. And as mentioned the damage to the body and brain is permanent.

It's a rough sport/business no question.
 
The cathedral stadiums are funded via socialism.

The SF Giants and the Warriors new stadium is funded with private money. The complaint then becomes tickets/parking/concessions are so expensive that it prices the average fan out, which is true. However that's generally the sacrifice needed to make to fund it privately.
 
The only thing worse than listening to liberals is watching Brady play with his deflated balls.

You are posting with your deflated balls and deflated brain. You turn everything into an attack on the left. Give it a break. This is about NFL tackling rules.
 
The ex-NFL player I met told me that playing a game of football is like running full force into a brick wall for 4 hours a day. And that's just gameday...that's not counting all the contact drills during practices and training camp, and even the non-contact drills (because apparently, even in non-contact drills there's contact). And that's over at least 12 years + 4 years of college. So a 26-year old NFL player has probably played football for 20 years. I can't even begin to imagine how much pain their bodies must be in. 20 years of running into a brick wall...ugh.

Coming in off the road two days ago from a 5 week bike trip. Passed a Jr High football practice. One kid flat on his back, a couple of adults standing up erect looking down at him, all the other kids running over. It's a religion, and at the pro level, a religion tied to publicly funded homages to the militarist power of the state. Emotional manipulation of the masses.
 
The SF Giants and the Warriors new stadium is funded with private money. The complaint then becomes tickets/parking/concessions are so expensive that it prices the average fan out, which is true. However that's generally the sacrifice needed to make to fund it privately.

If you wish to convince a population that is has a free market economy, it's going to have to be the same for everyone.

And it's not. You'll recall Don ran on the rigging.
 
If you wish to convince a population that is has a free market economy, it's going to have to be the same for everyone.

And it's not. You'll recall Don ran on the rigging.

It's up to each city/area to determine if they want to use public funds for a stadium or to entice a team.
 
It's up to each city/area to determine if they want to use public funds for a stadium or to entice a team.

See? And folks wail on about socialism. America has no beef with socialism, it just shat's itself over who will benefit; the aristocracy or we the people.
 
See? And folks wail on about socialism. America has no beef with socialism, it just shat's itself over who will benefit; the aristocracy or we the people.

I would argue Cities shouldn't fund sports stadiums just as I would say they shouldn't fund the arts etc. if that's what you are asking. But most people don't share my view.
 
I am, but I always root against the south.

Well I was a Panthers fan before all this south shit started going south again, for a little play on words. It's the only reason they get a pass. After We got a black president, it really started badly. It had issues before, but a big resurgence of confederate style prejudice came at Obama.
 
Well I was a Panthers fan before all this south shit started going south again, for a little play on words. It's the only reason they get a pass. After We got a black president, it really started badly. It had issues before, but a big resurgence of confederate style prejudice came at Obama.

I have always recognized the shitiness of the south.
 
I would argue Cities shouldn't fund sports stadiums just as I would say they shouldn't fund the arts etc. if that's what you are asking. But most people don't share my view.

Why not both?

Creative Arts aren't something that a computer or robot can do (yet); a robot cannot conceptualize a marketing plan or even a piece of creative advertising. A robot can't write a script. Design and creative jobs are what we should be encouraging kids to go into along with STEM. The arts are just as important as STEM and it's been shown that the arts stimulate brain functions in children, leading to greater creativity and problem solving. Also, the arts are a great way for kids (and adults) to bond over shared interests. Talk to anyone who has ever been in a play or musical and they'll likely refer to the people in the cast & crew as family. I think Arts funding in this country is depressingly under-funded. A school can sell the same number of tickets to see a play or musical (with enough runs), as they'd get during a season of football. And the kids doing the play aren't putting their lives and health at risk, and I think it's ultimately more rewarding.
 
Why not both?

Creative Arts aren't something that a computer or robot can do (yet); a robot cannot conceptualize a marketing plan or even a piece of creative advertising. A robot can't write a script. Design and creative jobs are what we should be encouraging kids to go into along with STEM. The arts are just as important as STEM and it's been shown that the arts stimulate brain functions in children, leading to greater creativity and problem solving. Also, the arts are a great way for kids (and adults) to bond over shared interests. Talk to anyone who has ever been in a play or musical and they'll likely refer to the people in the cast & crew as family. I think Arts funding in this country is depressingly under-funded. A school can sell the same number of tickets to see a play or musical (with enough runs), as they'd get during a season of football. And the kids doing the play aren't putting their lives and health at risk, and I think it's ultimately more rewarding.

For years I supported cities subsidizing sports stadiums because I was a sports fan. And not that my opinion matters but I've sort of moved on the issue as I've watch the Giants and Warriors build private stadiums and thought why should cities subsidize these wealthy owners. At the end of the day it's really up to the each city and their voters. If they want to fund a stadium that's democracy in action and I don't have a problem with it.
 
The ex-NFL player I met told me that playing a game of football is like running full force into a brick wall for 4 hours a day. And that's just gameday...that's not counting all the contact drills during practices and training camp, and even the non-contact drills (because apparently, even in non-contact drills there's contact). And that's over at least 12 years + 4 years of college. So a 26-year old NFL player has probably played football for 20 years. I can't even begin to imagine how much pain their bodies must be in. 20 years of running into a brick wall...ugh.

years ago, the NFL bragged about their generous retirement . It started at age 65. Turned out that almost nobody was living to collect. Now they have to pay off players suffering from brain damage. They are fighting them from collecting that too.
 
Forget the protests on the right and left this personal foul call shows why the league will go to sh*t. If this is a PF they might as well play flag.



The NFL is in a tough position, in that they know that QBs are their biggest attraction, and so they don't want to lose one for the season as a result of a preseason game. Maybe the way to go would be to have special rules for the preseason games -- like starters only play for the first half and it's two-hand-touch, with full contact reserved for the guys trying to make the roster in the second half. Then the league could sell tickets to the game but wouldn't need to worry about losing stars in games that don't actually count.
 
Jade Dragon;2553294 I used to watch Hockey said:
I haven't watched the Bruins in decades, but giving up cable is pretty extreme.
I can't imagine doing that.
What about the boxing on HBO and Showtime?
 
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