HUGE!! Trump to end birthright citizenship!!!

[Flash]

Come here legally if you want your children to be citizens...why shouldn't that just be a given?

Because we are bound by the Constitution. It can be changed if enough people support it.

 

[Micawber]

We would not have to worry about it if TRUMP had done what he promised and made Mexico pay for a wall.

He lies so much his lies eat each other

 

[Adolf_Twitler]

I didn't think you'd admit the black boy did anything wrong. It's what your type are known to do, ignore the truth.

I can say this with much confidence, Obama served in the White House for 8 years, and for 8 years every thing he worked on was work he was doing to try and help others. He never did anything while in office to try and help himself. Obama was about improving the lives of others.

Donald Trump has been just the opposite, because everything he has done was something he did to help himself first and foremost before anyone else.

Donald Trump has abused his power and authority to try and harm his personal and political adversaries and others who do not agree with him.

Donald Trump is the most self centered- self serving- selfish person in the entire world.

 

[Into the Night]

I heard somewhere that Melania got her green card in 2001, then her citizenship in March of 2006, didn’t say what day of the month. Baron was born March 20, 2006.

Then I heard that Ivana, the mother of Don Sr.’s advisory adult children, became a citizen in 1988. Don Jr. was born in 1977, Ivanka was born in 1981, Erik was born in 1984; all born after their mother became a citizen.

Who knows.

Check your math, dude.

 

[Into the Night]

But the courts have done and continue to do all those things you claim they cannot do. The men who wrote the Constitution did not seem to object to the court's decision in Marbury which gave it the power to interpret the Constitution.

No court has the authority to interpret or change the Constitution of the United States or of any State.

 

[Into the Night]

Revisit the Powell Memorandum and the stats on the divorce in the early 1970s of increases in productivity of the american worker and worker compensation. There has indeed been a vast redistribution of wealth in this shithole society, and you advocate more of the same.

Wealth in a capitalist system is not 'redistributed'. it is CREATED.

 

[Into the Night]

Exactly. When they strike a law down as unconstitutional they are interpreting the Constitution which often changes its meaning.

People voting with their wallets has nothing to do with jury nullification.

No court has the authority to interpret or change the Constitution of the United States or of any State.
They can interpret a law, and strike it down as unconstitutional, but that is all.

 

[Into the Night]

You are right. It is probably more than 99%. Since you already claimed the federal courts can declare laws unconstitutional you have already agreed with the concept that courts can interpret/change the meaning of the Constitution. Welcome to the 99.5%.

WRONG. Interpreting a law as unconstitutional is NOT interpreting the Constitution. It is the LAW being interpreted, not the Constitution.

 

[Into the Night]

I was mostly referring to Donald Trump's threats to change the 14th amendment by EO! That is something he cannot do, and is a direct violation of the Constitution. That would require a Congressional Bill to change the 14th amendment.

But, if you will remember, the Supreme court ruled against Donald Trump's original 2 orders to shut down all foreigners from being able to enter the country from the 7 countries that Obama administration labeled as having terrorist activities within their borders. And those EO were over ruled as they both violated the Constitution. Now Trump's 3rd attempt at that banning was written in compliance with the Supreme Court ruling and the Constitution, therefore it did pass and is still in effect.

So stop with the asking stupid questions. You know what's going on.

The 14th amendment isn't even involved. It does not grant citizenship to foreign nationals or their children.

 

[Into the Night]

Aiding a foreign adversary to interfere in US elections #1.

Evidence?

Violations of Election law #2.

Evidence?

Violating Emolument clauses in the Constitution #3.

Evidence?

Shall I keep going, or let Special Council Robert Mueller explain all the hundreds of other felonies to you?

Mueller has no evidence, yet he has kept this investigation open for over a year. Hillary was selling uranium to the Soviets. She openly operated an email server containing state secrets on an unsecured server. Yet Mueller simply set aside her crimes. These were real instances of treason.

The guy is obviously politically motivated. He has managed to completely discredit himself and unfortunately smeared the reputation of many fine officers of the FBI.

 

[Into the Night]

The kids were all born in the US .. under US jurisdiction.. That makes them natural born US citizens from birth.

Nope. When the kids were born, the mother was not a citizen. She was under the political jurisdiction of another country. Her children will be required to apply for citizenship when they come of age under the change by Trump. That should be pretty easy to do, since their mother is now a citizen. It may be be written as automatic in that case if the kids are under legal age and are still her dependents.

 

[Into the Night]

But the courts have done and continue to do all those things you claim they cannot do. The men who wrote the Constitution did not seem to object to the court's decision in Marbury which gave it the power to interpret the Constitution.

Usurping power does not make it legal.

 

[Into the Night]

Guns were part of every day life in the colonies.. LOLOL

Possession of guns was universal as hunting with firearms was a primary means of survival. Rural homes depended on arms to help feed their large families.

...and to keep the intruders out, to keep evil men from the government out, to keep bandits out, etc.

 

[Into the Night]

Something to rule: Whether this action violates the 14th Amendment. If Trump does this, it will be challenged in court and likely wind up with the SCOTUS.

So what? No court has the authority to change the Constitution of the United States or of any State.

 

[Into the Night]

But that decision is the supreme law of the land and the fact that you disagree has no significance. The rule of law means we accept the decisions of governmental institutions whether we like them or not.

Marbury was a unanimous decision and judicial review was already an established principle in the colonies. Since many of the framers held government positions in 1803 I would think there would have been a lot of opposition and an attempt to reverse the decision if it went against their principles. But, it fits right into the checks and balances principle and without it there would be no check on legislative and executive power (and jury nullification would not be a check).

WRONG. The Constitution of the United States and of the States is the supreme law of the land, not the court!

No court is above the Constitution of the United States or of any State.

 

[Into the Night]

Because we are bound by the Constitution. It can be changed if enough people support it.

The people are not authorized to change the Constitution of the United States. Only the States are.

 

[Into the Night]

I can say this with much confidence, Obama served in the White House for 8 years, and for 8 years every thing he worked on was work he was doing to try and help others. He never did anything while in office to try and help himself. Obama was about improving the lives of others.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Guess all those golf games on our dime are just 'helping others', eh?

Donald Trump has been just the opposite, because everything he has done was something he did to help himself first and foremost before anyone else.

He ran on a platform of giving the people a voice. He promised he would modify the terrible trade agreements that Obama (and even Clinton) made. He promised to do something about immigration. He promised to bring jobs back to the U.S. He won the election. He is accomplishing what he set out to do. He is serving the people of this great nation.

Donald Trump has abused his power and authority to try and harm his personal and political adversaries and others who do not agree with him.

Nope. He has only enforced the law on those that break the law. That's his job.

Donald Trump is the most self centered- self serving- selfish person in the entire world.

You really have your head buried in the sand, don't you? Not even an ostrich does that!

 

[kudzu]

The 14th amendment isn't even involved. It does not grant citizenship to foreign nationals or their children.

Are you confused? The 14th amendment doesn't grant naturalized citizenship to foreign nationals.. and has NOTHING to do with naturalization.. But, it does recognize (NOT grant) the US citizenship of children born on US soil under US jurisdiction.

 

[CFM]

I can say this with much confidence, Obama served in the White House for 8 years, and for 8 years every thing he worked on was work he was doing to try and help others. He never did anything while in office to try and help himself. Obama was about improving the lives of others.

Donald Trump has been just the opposite, because everything he has done was something he did to help himself first and foremost before anyone else.

Donald Trump has abused his power and authority to try and harm his personal and political adversaries and others who do not agree with him.

Donald Trump is the most self centered- self serving- selfish person in the entire world.

You say it with a desire to stick your nose back up his nigger ass.

Hate to break it to you but I didn't need the black SOB doing for me. I'm capable of doing for myself. Perhaps you were talking trying to improve the lives of his own or the guilt ridden whites that thought being black made him qualified. In the end, his own people were worse off than before he was elected. Over 70% bastard birth rate, unemployment twice that of whites, dropout rates higher than all other groups, food stamp use at 1 in every 3 1/2 blacks. Yeah, he worked real hard at making people better.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Are you confused? The 14th amendment doesn't grant naturalized citizenship to foreign nationals.. and has NOTHING to do with naturalization.. But, it does recognize (NOT grant) the US citizenship of children born on US soil under US jurisdiction.

You are dealing with an asshole who is a staunch Donald Trump supporter...

...and who, in an attempt to appear intellectual, recently said "There is no country called America" (he demands that "The United States" be used.)

I wonder why the guy he supports...and the ignorant supporters of the guy he supports...often wear hats announcing, "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN?"