What the Mueller investigation will tell us in the end.

Jarod said:
We now know of the Rump campaign's extensive efforts to illegally manipulate the international community and enlist their illegal help with Trumps election in any way possible.
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We do? How do "we" know this? Has some form of evidence popped up to make such a laughably stupid case? Where is it? This is criminal!!! What is taking Mueller so long with all this pretend evidence around!!!???

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Jarod said:
Trump is well known as a micromanager and for knowing everything that goes on in his organizations.
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This is nothing more than a lie. Trump couldn't possibly know what is happening within his organizations all the time. A President cannot possibly know what is going on in Government all the time.

What this statement indicates to me is a glaring naivete about how the real world works and a desperate effort to fit lies into a false narrative. You haven't run much of anything, that much is apparent.
 
Phantasmal said:
We don’t know everything Mueller had on these people, only the minimal crime he decided to use as to not reveal his full investigation. These people are too impatient.
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Id use a different phrase, willfully ignorant.
 
Jarod said:
So the question becomes... How skilled was Trump at covering his own trail and involvement. Did he think ahead and create plausible deniability, did he protect himself while allowing "his people to get their hands dirty? Did Trump keep at an arms length on these illegal activities, OR did he bumble into and out of it in a way that caused tracks.
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This is a misstatement; it should read: "So the strawman becomes.... I know it is hard for you to get much of anything right. I also know you have to be one of the shittiest lawyers on the planet with weak sauce arguments and non-factual claims like these.
 
Jarod said:
We now know of the Rump campaign's extensive efforts to illegally manipulate the international community and enlist their illegal help with Trumps election in any way possible.

Manafort, Cohen, Gates, Papadouplous and others were deeply involved.

Trump is well known as a micromanager and for knowing everything that goes on in his organizations.

So the question becomes... How skilled was Trump at covering his own trail and involvement. Did he think ahead and create plausible deniability, did he protect himself while allowing "his people to get their hands dirty? Did Trump keep at an arms length on these illegal activities, OR did he bumble into and out of it in a way that caused tracks.

I am not sure he knew these things were illegal so I wonder if he bothered to hide his trail.
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Simple: Jack Squat....even with the SS/Gestapo method, all Muller has accomplished is the indictment of those who have been under Federal Investigation for over a decade. Trump holds all the constitutional TRUMP CARDS (wink, wink). If there was anything that was prosecutable....with these Nazi deep state investigators Trump would have been history before he took office. The entire thing is an attempt to cover up the real collusion by those deep state criminals from the previous administration. Trump was never supposed to have won.....it was guaranteed by Comey and Company.

The real investigation using Military Tribunals for treason will begin when the 50K Plus sealed indictments are opened.
 
Jarod said:
We now know of the Rump campaign's extensive efforts to illegally manipulate the international community and enlist their illegal help with Trumps election in any way possible.

Manafort, Cohen, Gates, Papadouplous and others were deeply involved.

Trump is well known as a micromanager and for knowing everything that goes on in his organizations.

So the question becomes... How skilled was Trump at covering his own trail and involvement. Did he think ahead and create plausible deniability, did he protect himself while allowing "his people to get their hands dirty? Did Trump keep at an arms length on these illegal activities, OR did he bumble into and out of it in a way that caused tracks.

I am not sure he knew these things were illegal so I wonder if he bothered to hide his trail.
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The real question is how many times can you lie in one thread?

1) List the 'extensive efforts to illegally manipulate the international community'... or are you lying?

2) Please explain how each of the four were 'deeply involved'... or are you lying?
 
Jarod said:
1) When you get someone to cooperate you have them plead guilty to the least of the crimes.
2) During an active investigation you don't charge people with the ultimate crime until disclosure does not harm your ability to investigate.
3) Its clear where/what these crimes are.
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I always thought that in order to have an investigation, one must have a crime. What is the crime? The FACT is that there is no crime or evidence suggesting that Trump won the election with the help of the Russians and that it is a laughably stupid argument in the first place.

This all happened under Obama's watch; yet Obama clearly stated that there is NO WAY our elections can get hacked. So I will ask again; where is the criminal behavior that Mueller was sent out to investigate?

If we accept this asinine and farcical notion that we can investigate Presidents, or anyone for that matter, simply based on hearsay and innuendo; then we have certainly fallen into third world shitholism.

Jarod said:
4) Obviously I don't know if they will get Trump, see post #1, that's the point of this thread.
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I can easily say that they have NOTHING on Trump. I am willing to bet a permanent ban on that FACT with you right here and right now. You, on the other hand, will be a coward and refuse to accept that because you entire goal on this forum is to be a left wing parrot of false leftist propaganda while pretending to know what it is you emote about.
 
reagansghost said:
Mueller's investigation will reveal Trump's decades long efforts to build a huge cash cow in Moscow, working with whichever Russian despot, crashed and burned during his campaign, and included collusion with whichever Russian intel group by seedy Team Trump toady's as required, then was fully compromised by Putin after lying to the American people on the campaign trail about doing business in Russia

or something similar
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Is it illegal to set up a business in Russia? Yes or no? Oh wait, you're banned so you can't answer that. :laugh:
 
Phantasmal said:
We don’t know everything Mueller had on these people, only the minimal crime he decided to use as to not reveal his full investigation. These people are too impatient.
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LMAO... how many times are you going to defend his stupid fucking comments? People aren't impatient. Garud is making statements with nothing to substantiate them.
 
evince said:
a fetus is not a baby

its cells inside the body of a full human being

society already decided that one with the help of science
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Wrong moron. Science dictates that it is a unique human life. That is irrefutable. You are a science denier if you claim otherwise.
 
Superfreak said:
LMAO... how many times are you going to defend his stupid fucking comments? People aren't impatient. Garud is making statements with nothing to substantiate them.
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Poor Superfreak, you mad bro? Still? Always? Your temper gets you shut down often?
 
evince said:
a fetus is not a baby

its cells inside the body of a full human being

society already decided that one with the help of science
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If those cells are not alive and HUMAN....what are they? Show us the science that tells us that human life does not begin at conception, there is no growth/life from the moment of conception. The inverse is true. Science details the fact that a gestating human life is a separate and unique example of human life with its own unique DNA signature, different from that of the mother or father. As far as society goes......moral societies make moral laws.....immoral societies make immoral laws. There was never a represented law that made abortion on demand legal....before that law was manufactured from the bench. This is a representative republic....not an oligarchy.
 
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