No, the problem is that you supported the Russia Tax Cut without thinking through the implications of it. It's not just me who is unhappy, millions of Trumpanzees are unhappy too. So if your campaign is to tell voters who support Trump that they're stupid, be my guest. See how that strategy plays out for you electorally.
MILLIONS will be hit with TAXES due to UNDERPAYING for 2018 TAX CUT (TOLD YAH!)
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No, the problem is that you supported the Russia Tax Cut without thinking through the implications of it. It's not just me who is unhappy, millions of Trumpanzees are unhappy too. So if your campaign is to tell voters who support Trump that they're stupid, be my guest. See how that strategy plays out for you electorally.
Yes, deductions and exemptions were eliminated.
If your deductions and exemptions totalled more than $24K in any given year, you got screwed by this.
Telling your fellow Trump voters that they're stupid isn't a strategy that is going to win in 2020.
No, the purpose was to use the Russia Tax Cut to turn people against their own states, which is weird, because you're the ones who are all about states doing things on their own.
Good luck in 2020 telling your fellow Trumpanzees that they're too stupid to see the benefit of raising their tax liability. Good work.
Right, but your liability increased. Just like millions of other Trumpanzees.
Which has nothing to do with real estate sales.
You're a contractor, not a realtor, so your "trades" isn't a trade publication, it's not even the sector of housing that has anything to do with home prices.
You're just a contractor. Not someone who knows about the housing market.
I told you how the burden went up, and I even used average numbers from past tax seasons to prove my point.
You're the ones who promised this would be all sunshine and rainbows, and now refunds are 8% smaller than last year.
You think people are dumb enough to believe that because you cut the marginal rate temporarily that your tax burden also was decreased. Or maybe you're dumb enough to believe it. Who knows? You said yourself that you hadn't done your taxes yet, so you don't even know what your liability actually is.
So what started out as a tax cut you pitched that would have universal benefit has devolved into a petty game of politics.
So thanks for admitting there's no economic or fiscal ground for your argument to stand on...you're just playing the politics of pettiness because your policy sucks and you know it.
Right, because you're a sociopath.
And now you're trying to walk back your support for this dumb thing now that so many of your fellow Trumpanzees are mad.
Well, you don't get a lifeboat here. You are stuck with this Russia Tax Cut and all the fallout of it.
Good luck in 2020...you're gonna need it.
Centerleftfl
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"They" can take a private jet deduction (when they can't take a taxpayer PAID FOR government jet) but I can't write off my GARAGE which has work shit on racks piled up 8 feet.
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"They" can write off a private jet deduction (when they can't take a US PAID FOR JET) and I can't write off my GARAGE which has work shit on racks piled up 8 feet.
I am a little confused by that. If you are a business you can write off quite a bit within reason.
Conservatives knew this would be the result of their Russia Tax Cut, and attacked us for accurately predicting this handout to the wealthy.
Tax revenues for 2018 were less than 2017.
So not only did the Russia Tax Cut raise most taxpayers' liability, it also starved the Treasury of revenue so that we collected less in 2018 than 2017.
Conservatives said their trickle-down would pay for itself in increased revenues from increased economic activity.
SPOILER ALERT: It didn't.
Centerleftfl
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I think I posted 250 posts ago, this was about ARITHMETIC. Not even fancy math. DEDUCTIONS, PERSONAL EXEMPTIONS, THRESHOLDS of income. Some will win, some will hold static and some will lose! And a whole BUNCH are GOING TO BE SURPRISED!
And we'll have a damn good idea BEFORE APR 15.
Centerleftfl
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It NEVER TRICKLED DOWN! Ask Stockman.
We predicted this would happen back in December 2017, but Conservatives insisted that everyone's incomes would rise by $4K-$9K.
Callinectes
Proud MAGA Semi-Facist
Really wish you guys would look up the definition of that word. Am I a sociopath because I don't give a rat's ass how you prepare your taxes? Do you give a rat's ass how I prepare my taxes? If you do, cut it out, sociopath!
When the fuck did I ever try to walk back my support for a tax cut?! I'm hoping for another one!
Don't want a "lifeboat", didn't ask for one. And please...please, stick me with more "russian" tax cuts! I gladly accept all of the fallout from them, which is...tax cuts. BTW, you never answered my question about why you call this a russian tax cut. Russians don't have tax cuts
What are you guys gonna run on? Higher taxes? Good luck in 2020...you're gonna need it.
No, you're a sociopath because your justification for this Russia Tax Cut devolved into a game of pettiness. You couldn't and can't defend the economics of the Russia Tax Cut, so you migrate your argument to one of selfishness. But that's wildly different then how you all were pitching the tax cut in December 2017.
So you've changed your argument because every promise you made before turned out to be a lie, so what was a universal good, has become "I'm glad others are being hurt."
You walk it back by trying to make the excuse that other people are just too dumb to appreciate you raising their tax liability.
This comes after lying about it affecting your 2017 taxes (it didn't take effect until 2018).
The Russia Tax Cut resulted in less revenue collected in 2018 than 2017; so you lied when you said it would pay for itself.
The Russia Tax Cut was supposed to raise wages by $4K-$9K; so you lied when you said it would raise wages by that much.
The Russia Tax Cut was supposed to stop companies from outsourcing and offshoring; so you lied about that since companies are still outsourving and offshoring.
The Russia Tax Cut was supposed to provide for bonuses and benefits increases; so you lied about that since bonuses were $0.02 and no benefits were increased.
Rather than own up to that, you have chosen to make the argument that everyone else is too dumb to appreciate that you've raised most of their tax liabilities.
A majority of people support a 70% bracket and a wealth tax, including a majority of Republicans.
Your Russia Tax Cut is less popular than Obamacare.
Also, if your Russia Tax Cut was so great, how come none of you ran on it in 2018?
Centerleftfl
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I posted from the get go last year this was going to happen. Just wait. This wasn't rocket science. IT HAPPENED BEFORE! Bush's tax cuts 'we're 'giving' you your refund early' scheme was fairly paltry $300 for a single person or $600 for the average family. Remember? (They were were quasi-honest and called it a 'REBATE' but how many understood that?) Millions were surprised when they got nothing back or owed after that round.
This is bigger! They changed the deductions and exemptions. TRUMP promised over and over and over on AVERAGE $4000 SAVINGS PER HOUSEHOLD. Assuming they got $4000 savings throughout the year BUT eliminated many deductions and 'tinkered' with the exemptions THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN!
The ONLY question is to how many! We will know before April 15. Maybe only the 'early filers' are mostly getting shocked and 'awed'. But my bet is on MILLIONS being surprised, pissed even OUTRAGED. Anyone wanna take bets?
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PostmodernProphet
fully immersed in faith..
if you aren't smart enough to know that its the Total Tax line instead of the Refund Due You line that matters, you probably shouldn't be doing your own taxes........