Vasquezrocks
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It’s called ... welfare !
Poll: Do you support slavery reparations?
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Saying, "Huh uh" only passes for a serious counterpoint among liberals.
Where did i say "huh uh"?
Um...banning only Christians from owning bakeries, florist shops, catering businesses, etc., anytime they choose not to violate their religious beliefs by participating in a homosexual wedding...is turning them into second-class citizens and violating their rights. Not rocket science.
Why is this only being done to Christians? Is that "equality?" And why are Jews not being forced to cater Neo-Nazi rallies? (Hint: You're just too stupid and dishonest to comprehend the gaping holes in your ridiculous argument).
Pointing out the glaring hypocrisy of liberals defending the death cult as a "religion of peace" while smearing peaceful Christians as wanting to stone homosexuals to death is not claiming that liberals are Muslims, idiot. Try to keep up.
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Logically inconsistent in the extreme.
Scenario 1: Someone makes $100,000 on slavery 150 years ago. Then that person goes bankrupt in some other financial venture. Then one of the four children or grandchildren starts a business that's successful and makes a million dollars off of it.
Scenario 2: Someone makes $100,000 on slavery 150 years ago. Then that person goes on to make millions in some other unrelated financial venture. Then their four kids inherit the millions when they die.
Scenario 3: Someone makes $100,000 on slavery 150 years ago. Then $50,000 of that money is left to pass on, which is spent by the next generation, which passes on another $50,000 to the following generation, and so on.
Even in the unrealistically cut-and-dry third example, the $50,000 that was passed on WAS ALREADY SPENT. You have entire lifetimes going by in between each inheritance where ENTIRELY DIFFERENT AND NEW profits were made, hence an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT AND NEW $50,000 was passed on. Additionally, you are portraying it as fair to illegally confiscate the wealth of the people in all of these scenarios...all of whom did nothing wrong (most of whom you can't even directly prove ever received a single dime from hundreds of years of undocumented business transactions), to give their wealth to those who were never victims.
It's an absurd fallacy and a violation of the core, bedrock Founding principle that you cannot punish one person for another person's actions. It also ignores the THOUSANDS of years of victimization of whites at the hands of what are now minorities. How is THAT to be calculated into this? Blacks might even OWE WHITES money by the end of it. What you are advocating is not justice. It is living in the past (hilarious that you call yourselves 'progressives') and waging a vindictive, Constitution-shredding crusade to victimize innocent people on the basis of race (starting to see Hitler in the mirror yet?).
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Iolo/Penderyn
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I think the compensation should be international and should certainly penalise the descendants of anyone who made money out of the slave trade, or who got - difficult to believe - their own compensation when the UK freed the colonial slaves and they could no longer work their 'property' to death. That would include, I believe, our ex-prime-minister Cameron, the idiot who brought the Brexit shitstorm down on us all.
Or you could just go the much easier route of not having to calculate anything at all...by growing up and moving on instead of bitterly clinging to the past and trying to hash out to the Nth degree who can be screwed over for what. And how much would Africans have to pay in reparations, by your logic, for helping others enslave their people? And how much would the "religion of peace" have to pay for STILL enslaving people throughout the Middle East? This idiotic topic raises a myriad of contradictions and problems that just don't need to exist.
And no, leaving sovereignty-trampling tyrannies like the EU that further concentrate all the power into the hands of the few, further enslaving the people to the elites who CAUSE most of the disasters they have to live through...is not the problem here.
You also owe nothing to recklessly slutty women who want to use your forcibly confiscated tax dollars to fund their imaginary baby-killing "rights." But they are still imposing THAT lunacy on you as well...contrary to everything Democrats promised. It doesn't have to be valid or legal. They will steal your money and use it for the most egregiously immoral and unjust things imaginable...like deliberately inflaming race tensions even further than they already have with "reparations." They are Democrats. It's what they do.
Iolo/Penderyn
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Or you could just go the much easier route of not having to calculate anything at all...by growing up and moving on instead of bitterly clinging to the past and trying to hash out to the Nth degree who can be screwed over for what. And how much would Africans have to pay in reparations, by your logic, for helping others enslave their people? And how much would the "religion of peace" have to pay for STILL enslaving people throughout the Middle East? This idiotic topic raises a myriad of contradictions and problems that just don't need to exist.
And no, leaving sovereignty-trampling tyrannies like the EU that further concentrate all the power into the hands of the few, further enslaving the people to the elites who CAUSE most of the disasters they have to live through...is not the problem here.
The point is not slavery - common in most primitive societies, the Roman Empire for instance - but filthy, bullying racist slavery. Capitalism is responsible, and those who get fat on capitalism should pay to the last cent.
Sit down and be quiet, Nazi, Iolo sock.
Indeed. There is progress on the Democrats’ “baby killing rights.” Slow progress but progress. Americans are changing their attitudes about murdering the unborn (and the born) and the sale of baby body parts.This barbarism will not stand.
Great posts, best of the day. Thanks.
First, ALL slavery is filthy, bullying slavery. Also, the Slavs are an entire group of people who were so notorious for being enslaved by every civilization on all sides that they were actually named after the practice, and selected on the basis of race. By your arbitrary, subjective logic, all white people with any Slavic dissent are entitled to an awful lot of money from pretty much everyone. Done playing this stupid, fake victim game yet or do you want to go on?
Having property rights and being able to profit from the fruits of your labor caused the practice that has existed for 99% of human history...and since long before capitalism ever existed? What a fucking idiot.
Iolo/Penderyn
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First, ALL slavery is filthy, bullying slavery. Also, the Slavs are an entire group of people who were so notorious for being enslaved that they were actually named after the practice, and selected on the basis of race. By your arbitrary, subjective logic, all white people with any Slavic dissent are entitled to an awful lot of money from pretty much everyone. Done playing this stupid, fake victim game yet or do you want to go on?
Having property rights and being able to profit from the fruits of your labor caused the practice that has existed for 99% of human history (long before capitalism ever existed)? What a fucking idiot.
In relatively decent early societies it was comparatively easy to move up from slavery and become a citizen. Major literary figures in Rome, Horace for instance, were the sons of freedmen. Is there any real evidence that Slavs were 'racially' enslaved? Seems like cock to me.
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What does the ease with which one earns their way out of slavery in some societies have to do with whether slavery is fundamentally and universally immoral? Not sure what this semi-literate drivel is even attempting to accomplish with such an off-topic point.
Aimless, random hate.