"Sanders is right: Republican tax cuts cost more than forgiving student debt"

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7% is NOTHING.

What about the other 93%?

And what quintile did they move to? The top one? See, everything you post is always vague and undefined, which lets you wiggle within the parameters later in the debate in order to save face.

I wouldn't crow about a mere 7% of workers moving up from one quintile to another, while 4% moved down over the same period.

What is your point? That 7% of middle class workers moved into a higher quintuple? OK, and that point serves what goal and argument?

It's reallyhard to believe you still even post here,

you have been proven wrong so many times, you do know when we read your posts, it's with smiles on our faces, you're like watching a child yell at his Mom because he can't have more cookies.


you're kind of goofy too

 

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Um...Because people spend more when they have more?

Do you know what debt is?

You cut taxes which "lets people keep more of what they earn", but then those people end up going into debt and/or draining their savings.

So going into debt is letting you keep more of what you earn?

You're making no sense. Try again.

How come household debt increases and personal savings decreases every time taxes have been cut the last 40 years?

Thanks for making the case for supply-side economics, by the way.

I did that by showing people go into debt after tax cuts?

How is that making a case for your voodoo economics?

How is increasing debt after tax cuts a case for supply side economics?

You're not very smart.

 

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Example: A (tax cuts) costs more than B (student loan forgiveness) despite the fact that A is not a cost in the first place.

Tax cuts definitely have a cost. That's why we went from a surplus to a deficit in 2002. Clinton ran budget surpluses, then you cut taxes, and the surpluses disappeared, doubling the debt in 8 years and providing for the highest deficit of all time.

 

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It's reallyhard to believe you still even post here,you have been proven wrong so many times, you do know when we read your posts, it's with smiles on our faces, you're like watching a child yell at his Mom because he can't have more cookies.you're kind of goofy too

You're so fucking stupid, you got conned by a reality TV show host and once he's gone, you're going to pretend you never heard of him.

 

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Definition of a Non-Sequiter: An inference that does not follow from the premises. Example: A (tax cuts) costs more than B (student loan forgiveness) despite the fact that A is not a cost in the first place.

Non-sequiters are pretty straightforward. Might want to look things up yourself before presuming to lecture others.

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You have it correct.

 

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You couldn't answer because you're anatta trying out a new ID.

Another moron sock claim. Is this all you can do?

The facts are the facts;

Not a fact. An argument from randU fallacy. Learn what a 'fact' is. A 'fact' is not a Universal Truth. They are not a proof.

every time taxes have been cut the last 40 years, personal savings has dropped and household debt has increased.

Lie.

So tax cuts don't let you keep more of what you earn, clearly.

Lie.

 

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7% is NOTHING.

7% of any number greater than zero is also greater than zero. Maybe you missed that day in your 3rd grade math class.

What about the other 93%?

What about 'em?

And what quintile did they move to? The top one? See, everything you post is always vague and undefined, which lets you wiggle within the parameters later in the debate in order to save face.

His 7% number is an argument from randU fallacy, true.

I wouldn't crow about a mere 7% of workers moving up from one quintile to another, while 4% moved down over the same period.

7% of any number greater than zero is not 7-4 or 3%. Perhaps you missed that day in 3rd grade math class also.

What is your point?

He has none. He is making up numbers, just like you do.

That 7% of middle class workers moved into a higher quintuple? OK, and that point serves what goal and argument?

This number is unknown. It is a random number based in turn on an arbitrary fence. It is an argument from randU fallacy.

 

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Do you know what debt is?

The obligation resulting from taking out a loan.

You cut taxes which "lets people keep more of what they earn",

It does.

but then those people end up going into debt and/or draining their savings.

Lie. Non-sequitur fallacy. Argument from randU fallacy.

So going into debt is letting you keep more of what you earn?

Conclusion based on non-sequitur.

You're making no sense. Try again.

Inversion fallacy. It is YOU that is making no sense.

How come household debt increases and personal savings decreases every time taxes have been cut the last 40 years?

It hasn't.

I did that by showing people go into debt after tax cuts?

You showed nothing. Personal debt has nothing to do with tax cuts.

How is that making a case for your voodoo economics?

Inversion fallacy. This is YOUR voodoo economics. Of course I already know you have problems with simple mathematics.

How is increasing debt after tax cuts a case for supply side economics?

Conclusion based on non-sequitur.

You're not very smart.

YALIF.

 

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The Trump/Conservative/Russia Tax Cut is the biggest domestic policy blunder since the Bush Tax Cuts.

Explain. Try not to commit any fallacies this time.

 

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Conservatives promised that if their Russia Tax Cut was passed, wages would grow by at least $4,000. They didn't.

Conservatives vowed that if their Russia Tax Cut was passed, the economy would grow at least 3%. It didn't.

Conservatives screeched that if their Russia Tax Cut was passed, the deficit would decline. It didn't.

Conservatives oinked that if their Russia Tax Cut was passed, revenue would increase. It didn't.

Conservatives mooed that if their Russia Tax Cut was passed, the market would grow like crazy. It didn't.

Nothing Conservatives have said about their Russia Tax Cut has turned out to be true.

That's why no Conservative wanted to talk about their Russia Tax Cut during the 2018 campaign.

 

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None of the Conservatives ran on it in 2018...in fact, they tried not to talk about it.

Democrats should hammer home the point: Give rich people $2T or forgive all student loan debt and have $400B left over?

No one gave rich people $2T. A government student loan jubilee is unequal taxation. That is unconstitutional.

 

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One thing Conservatives do is create brand new IDs to argue the same failed points, but "starting over" by posturing as a different person.

Not fooled.

 

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What he wants to do is force companies to pay higher wages so there's less subsidizing of their workforces by taxpayers.

Price controls don't work.

 

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Since 1980, there has not been a single instance of a tax cut delivering on any promise made of it.

Reagan's tax cuts exploded the deficit and debt, leading to a recession.

Bush the Dumber's tax cuts erased the surplus and doubled the debt, and were also responsible for the economic collapse, according to Bush.

The Russia Tax Cut has exploded the deficit yet again, increasing it by 25% this year and 39% last year. And we didn't even get 3% growth in 2018, like they promised.

Conservative voodoo economics never work. The only goal they serve is flying planes of tax cuts into the budget, and then declaring a jihad on social spending to which they're ideologically opposed, but lack the courage, support, and will to repeal through conventional legislation.

So instead, they deliberately create deficits to use as an excuse to exact punitive harm on those they sanctimoniously judge.

Conservatism is terrorism.

 

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Since 1980, there has not been a single instance of a tax cut delivering on any promise made of it.

Reagan's tax cuts exploded the deficit and debt, leading to a recession.

Bush the Dumber's tax cuts erased the surplus and doubled the debt, and were also responsible for the economic collapse, according to Bush.

The Russia Tax Cut has exploded the deficit yet again, increasing it by 25% this year and 39% last year. And we didn't even get 3% growth in 2018, like they promised.

Conservative voodoo economics never work. The only goal they serve is flying planes of tax cuts into the budget, and then declaring a jihad on social spending to which they're ideologically opposed, but lack the courage, support, and will to repeal through conventional legislation.

So instead, they deliberately create deficits to use as an excuse to exact punitive harm on those they sanctimoniously judge.

Conservatism is terrorism.

omg are you still here, for real?

someone close to you needs to take your computer away, I know people around you laugh at you, would be imposssible not to.

you havn't had a coherent thought in months.
take a break, regroup

 

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Check the scoreboard:

2015: No tax cut, 2.88% GDP growth, deficit shrinks to $438B, 2.7 million jobs created
2018: Russia Tax Cut, 2.85% GDP growth, deficit grows to $832B, 2.6 million jobs created

 

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No, you are cherry picking select economic indicators to support what you hope is accurate,

Lie.

but the last thing true is that "the middle class is fat,"

Some are, some aren't.

to believe such would be to deny the reality

Define 'reality'. Betcha can't.

of an ever increasing income inequality.

Income is not about 'equality'. Income is based on how well you do your work and the demand for your skills.

If the "middle class is fat" the upper class is obese

Money is not a fat cell.

What has been happening for the last two decades, and has accelerated under Trump with such as his tax cut, is a income redistribution from the middle to the top,

No. The rich are rich because they are productive. They are creating wealth. Wealth that all benefit from.

all individuals as Bernie are trying to do is reverse the trend

Lie. Bernie wants to steal wealth. He is a socialist.

 

[Getin the ring]

Check the scoreboard:

ok

Trump 305
Democrat clown 226

anything else I can do for you

 

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One thing Conservatives do is create brand new IDs to argue the same failed points, but "starting over" by posturing as a different person.

Not fooled.

Conspiracy nut.

 

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Trump 305
Democrat clown 226

Obama's margins were...bigger.