Winning the popular vote and winning the election are not the same. But then you already know that.
Pelosi will have to pick a VP
- Thread starter evince
- Start date
Winning the popular vote and winning the election are not the same. But then you already know that.
I have no idea and neither do you. Maybe it was corruption. We both know that is not illegal.
reagansghost
eternal
if he was discussing a quid pro quo, trading arms for Ukraine for dirt on Biden
impeachment time, welcome aboard Madam President!
Well, this is the "apples and oranges are the same because they're both fruit" line of reasoning; actively avoiding any contrast or details to produce a false or misleading conclusion. In other words, sophistry.
So the last 50 years have seen TWO GOP Presidents go through impeachment, but only 1 Democratic one.
So that's BoTh SiDeS?
One side had double the number of impeached Presidents.
As I said a couple of times already, we are in uncharted waters and nothing about this is normal. It's unprecedented, which is why I don't know how all this is going to shake out. I'm leaning more toward Trump just ditching everyone in the middle of the night and hopping his plane to Moscow, or just dying on the toilet of an embolism or brain hemorrhage as he's trying to push out a McDonald's turd, than him ever facing an actual trial in the Senate.
So in your mind, lying about a blowjob and soliciting foreign leaders to do your dirty work are of equal concern?
Well, we do know because Trump said so...nebulous "corruption".
Maybe we need to subpoena the translators for that meeting. Or the notes from it. Were there notes? Why haven't they produced the notes or transcript from those meetings? Why was Pence even meeting with Zalensky?
You hypocrite. Despite your constant charges of "sophist," "bad faith," etc. you make a claim that is a big lie. I prove that you lied by post proof from the YouGov web site and you fail to respond. You are worse than the things you accuse me of. You never respond when proven wrong.
"YouGov conducts polls on the Internet about politics, public affairs, products, brands and other topics of general interest. YouGov polls are taken by people, from all over the nation, who have agreed to share their thoughts on a wide variety of important issues.
How long is a typical YouGov survey? Most YouGov surveys are very short and should only take you about five to seven minutes to complete."
As we have proven based on your analysis of elections, your math is bad. We have one Democratic president impeached and no Republicans in the last 50 years.
This was an attempt to mislead on your part.
Based on your reasoning that makes Democrats worse than Republicans since they had 1 impeached to 0. But any rational person would not make such a lame claim just like claiming 2 Republicans faced with "possible" impeachment do not make Republicans worse. We don't even know if impeachment proceedings will begin on Trump after the "inquiry."
They're not internet polls like you see on Facebook or Twitter; or even those one-click polls on websites or in your browser. These are people who sign up to be polled.
Flash, you know what I mean...
Well, Nixon quit before he could go to trial, and Trump will probably do the same.
I don't know. You sound like the Republicans who ask "why was Clinton meeting with the AG on her plane?" They are convinced it was to persuade her not to prosecute Hillary. Their evidence is about as strong as yours (which is very strong for conspiracy nuts). Since they don't know the answer it must be illegal.
But you are not sure enough of your convictions that you are willing to predict?
BoTh SiDeS.
We know the reason Pence was meeting with Zalensky because Trump said so on camera.
Trump literally said Pence was meeting with Zalensky about "corruption", which we now know from the transcript is about digging up dirt on his political opponent.
Maybe you need to take your head out of your ass and actually read my posts instead of knee-jerk responding.
What I said was this:
Right. They are people who sign up. As I said in my original post any self-selected poll (they sign up) is not a credible poll. But it is clearly an internet poll which you said it was not and accused me of someone lying to me about YouGov when I was correct.
Now you change the goal posts to say it's not like Twitter or Facebook. I never said it was, I said it was an internet poll. Many actually are like Facebook since it is a simple one-click response to some simple topic that produces multiple polls results per day. Face it, you know nothing about YouGov but pretended you did so you could argue with someone pretending to know what you were talking about.
You thought it was a one-click internet poll, not one where there were people who signed up. You're trying to make it sound like this poll was like one that would appear on Fox News where anyone can just take the poll and flood the results.
Right, again, this is an example of sophistry. You have this tendency to boil things down to a very simplistic level because details aren't your friend, and the more distinctions and differences that are acknowledged, the less your argument holds water.
It's saying apples and oranges are the same because they're both fruit.
That's sophistry, and that's what you engage in by habit. Very disingenuous. Total fraud.
When you say "it's an internet poll" without making the distinction that it's not a free-for-all, one-click, internet poll like you would see on Fox News' Twitter or Facebook, you engage in sophistry.
It's like saying airplanes and boats are the same because they're both methods of transportation.
Why is it not a credible poll?
Anybody who would vote to impeach Pence based on that statement should be shot. Maybe Pence was talking to Zelensky about Biden, but claiming "corruption" means digging up dirt on Biden with no evidence whatsoever means nothing.
Again, I'm not defending Trump or Pence, only claiming you are making huge partisan leaps to make that assumption. Of course, an impeachment proceeding is not a court of law (neither is the Senate trial) and not subject to the same rules of evidence.
Impeachment proceedings will never be brought against Pence. You are a drama queen expecting much more fireworks than likely to happen.
Wait - so now you're saying he might have talked Biden with Zalensky? You're kinda all over the place.
Yeah, well, we know as early as a couple weeks ago, and even last week, you didn't think impeachment would, could, or should happen.
These are not normal times, Flash. This is all unprecedented. We've never had a criminal conspiracy this large and wide-ranging, that implicates so many top officials, that involves POTUS using his office to advance his personal interests ahead of the security of the country.
You said before that there wouldn't even be an impeachment.
You're still behind the curve.
Liberals live in a make believe Fantasy world. The left does not have the power to remove Donald J. Trump. Its a dream, a very corrupt dream where the left promotes fascism and anti constitutionalism in the attempt to take away the rights of the people who elected a US PRESIDENT. Yeah....that's freedom, that's liberty, that democracy.....No that is totalitarian fascism.
If the left continues along these corrupt lines they are not looking at the demise of Donald Trump but their own political party...you will in effect create in your political enemies the very thing that you are seeking.....ONE PARTY CONTROL. Did you see the map presented by Donald Trump that said, IMPEACH THIS? That's reality....there is a sea of red out there you are telling to go to hell.
Don't say you were not warned come Nov. 2020.
If you think the silent majority came out in droves in the fly over states in the middle of Blue Collar American in 2016.....YOU AIN'T SEEN NOTHING YET. One thing is for sure....with the backing from the people that is enjoyed by Mr. Trump right now...there is no way in hell you are going to force him to resign, Trump never loses or quits anything.....and you will never convict him of some made up crime in the senate.Keep dreaming and masturbating to your wet dreams of removing him because you hate him.....and THE PEOPLE will wake your fascist ass up....just keep promoting lawlessness and corruption.
Last edited: