Biden- Booker, a ticket to win.

Can't get any old schooler than biden.

He voted for every bill against working class americans and believes Blacks are criminals that need to be locked up.

He's not good for the country.

Booker was the only one besides Castro pushing for criminal justice reform........smh......

Support the candidates who are not afraid to call the current system of government the USA's has morphed into as broken and corrupted. If they don't admit it, they will do nothing about it, will not fix it and down the road we wind up with another Trump type.
 
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I see that you still believe that . Obama fixing things.


Under Obama the stock market went from 7400 to 17400. Trump needs to take it to 40,000 to equal that % increase. (2.3 multiple)

Unemployment was his achilles heel, but he did get it down to 6 percent from 10 early in his first term.

Obama inherited the great recession and a RETRACTING economy, inflected it and made it a growth economy using an economic stimulus
package and saved the US automotive industry. What has Trump brought back coal and steel? no.

So how does you national debt clock working for you? Trump has us at 22 trillion. Nice work, Feldstein.:palm:

We've got great job numbers. I like that. Close thread. It's over.
 
Not my choice but I would vote for them.

And I'd vote for whoever you are likely to pick as well. I doubt Biden would be my choice if I was not laser
focused on the prime directive. My choice is my calculation of who will beat Trump most easily, IOW includes my perception
of what other people will support. I think that is likely the old white dude Trump is trying to frame in Ukraine using soviet propaganda.
I can't survive 4 more years of fascism and disregard of truth and decency. I'd take anyone else. Literally any mumbling drunk.
Well, any mumbling drunk besides TDAK or CFM
 
Support the candidates who are not afraid to call the current system of government the USA's has morphed into as broken and corrupted. If they don't admit it, they will do nothing about it, will not fix it and down the road we wind up with another Trump type.

But you have people who don't want to call it out. They are fine with the way things are. They don't want to "share" their privilege.

It will be worse for minorities if things stay the same and we keep working with republicans.
 
But you have people who don't want to call it out. They are fine with the way things are. They don't want to "share" their privilege.

It will be worse for minorities if things stay the same and we keep working with republicans.

And we know who is not calling it out and who is calling it out.
 
And I'd vote for whoever you are likely to pick as well. I doubt Biden would be my choice if I was not laser
focused on the prime directive. My choice is my calculation of who will beat Trump most easily, IOW includes my perception
of what other people will support.
I think that is likely the old white dude Trump is trying to frame in Ukraine using soviet propaganda.
I can't survive 4 more years of fascism and disregard of truth and decency. I'd take anyone else. Literally any mumbling drunk.
Well, any mumbling drunk besides TDAK or CFM

People can vote for whomever they like. But I do find it interesting you acknowledge the bolded (not that its unique to you). I've read progressive writers of color and progressive women claim that people who use the "perception of who will win" to determine their vote generally default to the white male candidate and thus they don't support women or minority candidates even if they like them and support their policies. Thus it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

I'm not saying these writers are correct but its the argument that has been made.
 
If dump is the worst of the worst there should never be a question of who can beat him.

anyone should be able to beat him.
 
I'd vote for the dog shit on the bottom of my shoe before I'd vote for a republican.

They are not to be trusted. At least the dems have congress people who would question wrong doing.....see THE SQUAD!

Exactly! We even had one (Al Franken) who, when confronted with evidence of sexual harassment, resigned rather then deny and try to justify himself.
 
you got your candidates mixed up, Biden wasn't the fat dirty old man who confessed to grabbing young girls pussies, but he did take them furniture shopping first

No Biden is the one who had repeatedly groped females of all shes on camera. Trump simply observed to someone that goldiggers are golddiggers.
 
People can vote for whomever they like. But I do find it interesting you acknowledge the bolded (not that its unique to you). I've read progressive writers of color and progressive women claim that people who use the "perception of who will win" to determine their vote generally default to the white male candidate and thus they don't support women or minority candidates even if they like them and support their policies. Thus it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

I'm not saying these writers are correct but its the argument that has been made.

I agree, and that is probably why in good measure the two black candidates are no longer running. We have only one black president so far,
so if getting rid of a orange incompetent criminal is the driving force, (and it is) it is still more likely a white person will be the next president. And since there has been a black
president, the level of "push" and excitement will not be as high as with Barack. My thinking is a black candidate for president will
greatly rile up Trump's angry racist base though. Losers like CFM will not hit the snooze button a 7th time that day, will jump in their grungy overalls and get to the polls.
If Barack were on the ticket, I'd vote for him over anyone, white black or green. Camala was simply not up to the task, and I think Booker, if Veep, could be the guy in 4 as
Biden will be REALLY old.

Never has calculation over exacting policy alignment been more important. You rich people can have your lousy tax cuts for all I care, just stop nominating total embarrassing criminal incompetent disgraces.
 
Under Obama the stock market went from 7400 to 17400. Trump needs to take it to 40,000 to equal that % increase. (2.3 multiple)

That is a bullshit claim. I will explain why it is. Yes, when he was sworn in the market was at 9,034.69. However, the previous high was at 14,093. Therefore, you must first get back to where you were at to start taking credit. As such, Obama oversaw and increase of 5,734 points over eight years. Trump has far surpassed that record in three short years.

Unemployment was his achilles heel, but he did get it down to 6 percent from 10 early in his first term.

Wrong; Obama didn't get unemployment under 6% until September 2014. FIVE years into his Presidency. His best rate was 4.7% which occurred at the end of his Presidency in January 2017.

Obama inherited the great recession and a RETRACTING economy, inflected it and made it a growth economy using an economic stimulus
package and saved the US automotive industry.

BULLSHIT. Every President inherits shit form the previous one. But for eight years we heard you fools blame Bush for Obama's inability to get the economy moving again. His record, and anemic 1.48%

The stimulus package did NOTHING to grow GDP and cost the US taxpayers over a trillion dollars.

So how does you national debt clock working for you? Trump has us at 22 trillion.

Obama has the record for deficits and debt. Yet you loony leftists cheered him. Obama added 9.7 trillion to the debt and a record 1.4 trillion deficit to his name. Loons like you who supported and cheered Obama's deficit records should really STFU.

Debt on Trump's inauguration was at 19,947 trillion. Debt currently is at 23,167. That's an increase of 3.220 trillion. Get back to me when he matches Obama's sad and pathetic record.

By the way, have you written your congress person yet to work with Trump to balance the budget? Yes or no? Dunce.

Nice work, Feldstein.:palm:
We've got great job numbers. I like that. Close thread. It's over.

Your arrogance is ironic and laughably inept when you make such stupid and lie filled claims. You've been owned again, yet, too stupid to comprehend the obvious.
 
My choice is my calculation of who will beat Trump most easily

The Party of the Jackass has no one who can beat Trump. How weak and inept is a platform that is only about beating Trump?

I think that is likely the old white dude Trump is trying to frame in Ukraine using soviet propaganda.

That is a lie filled claim. I don't think low IQ leftists can post without lying. That said, the front runners for the Party of the Jackass are OLDER white dudes. Ironic?

I can't survive 4 more years of fascism and disregard of truth and decency.

Another stupid lie filled claim. So, when Trump wins, are you going to kill yourself, or self deport to some Socialist utopia like Venezuela or Cuba?

I'd take anyone else. Literally any mumbling drunk.
Well, any mumbling drunk besides TDAK or CFM

You'll get four more years of Trump. Mark my word. So, are you going to kill yourself?
 
I agree, and that is probably why in good measure the two black candidates are no longer running. We have only one black president so far,
so if getting rid of a orange incompetent criminal is the driving force, (and it is) it is still more likely a white person will be the next president. And since there has been a black
president, the level of "push" and excitement will not be as high as with Barack. My thinking is a black candidate for president will
greatly rile up Trump's angry racist base though. Losers like CFM will not hit the snooze button a 7th time that day, will jump in their grungy overalls and get to the polls.
If Barack were on the ticket, I'd vote for him over anyone, white black or green. Camala was simply not up to the task, and I think Booker, if Veep, could be the guy in 4 as
Biden will be REALLY old.

Never has calculation over exacting policy alignment been more important. You rich people can have your lousy tax cuts for all I care, just stop nominating total embarrassing criminal incompetent disgraces.

CFM isn't determining elections. You know will though are the millions that voted for Obama then Trump. Will they vote for Trump again or go for the Democrat? Or as Althea states the Bernie supporters who voted for Trump out of protest. What will they do this time?

People on this board proclaiming they are voting for any Democrat against Trump means little considering they've voted for all Democratic Presidential candidates prior. Did any of these people not vote for Hillary, Obama, Kerry or Gore? If one voted differently in the past then yes that changes thing. But voting the same as you always do doesn't.
 
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