Bernie wins New Hampshire!

Not if I can't afford to fly someplace nice whenever I require proper care.

"Healthcare in Canada is delivered through the provincial and territorial systems of publicly funded health care, informally called Medicare.[1][2] It is guided by the provisions of the Canada Health Act of 1984,[3] and is universal.[4] Universal access to publicly funded health services is often considered by Canadians as a "fundamental value that ensures national health care insurance for everyone wherever they live in the country."[5] Canadian Medicare provides coverage for approximately 70 percent of Canadians' healthcare needs, and the remaining 30 percent is paid for through the private sector.[6] The 30 percent typically relates to services not covered or only partially covered by Medicare, such as prescription drugs, dentistry and optometry.[6] Approximately 65 to 75 percent of Canadians have some form of supplementary health insurance related to the aforementioned reasons; many receive it through their employers or use secondary social service programs related to extended coverage for families receiving social assistance or vulnerable demographics, such as seniors, minors, and those with disabilities.[7][6]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Canada
 
It's not free for a start, it's free at the point of delivery. It is primarily paid for by National Insurance contributions.

Oh Good! 'Havana the Conservative' is here. Please explain why you will fight to the death to keep Britain's socialist Health Care Plan. (Now, don't run away, answer the question)
 
:laugh: You're making shit up, and then arguing about the shit you just made up.

Do you have a Problem with a National Health Care Plan?

You still haven't explained why you'd vote for somebody that would ban fracking, despite your belief in energy independence. Every time I ask you run away. Do you know that nothing would give Putin greater pleasure than destroying the fracking industry and cause the price of oil and gas to rocket up. Are you one of those Russians botholes Desh keeps talking about?
 
You still haven't explained why you'd vote for somebody that would ban fracking, despite your belief in energy independence. Every time I ask you run away. Di you know that nothing would give Putin greater pleasure than destroying the tracking industry and cause the price if oil and gas to rocket up.


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So you can't or won't answer the question about why you will fight to the Death to preserve Britain's socialist Health Care Plan? :)
 
HM: "It's not free for a start, it's free at the point of delivery."
Jack; You mean like the Public School System.

I am just trying to set you straight, unlike you I know the score. I happen to think the funding of the NHS by taxation, which is not hypothecated, is not the best way to be honest. It would probably be better as a social insurance based system like they have in Germany. One of the weaknesses of the UK model is that funding goes through cycles of feast and famine, and is shaped by the state of the economy and the decisions of government on how much should be spent on the NHS.
 
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So you can't or won't answer the question about why you will fight to the Death to preserve Britain's socialist Health Care Plan? :)

Again you go with the bullshit, I've asked you the same question repeatedly but you just duck and dive. I can only assume that's because the answer is too hard for you to contemplate.
 
I am just trying to set you straight, unlike you I know the score. I don't happen to think the funding of the NHS is not the best way to be honest. It would probably be better as a social insurance based system like they have in Germany.

"According to the Euro health consumer index, which placed it in seventh position in its 2015 survey, Germany has long had the most restriction-free and consumer-oriented healthcare system in Europe. Patients are allowed to seek almost any type of care they wish whenever they want it.[10] The governmental health system in Germany is currently keeping a record reserve of more than €18 billion which makes it one of the healthiest healthcare systems in the world.[11]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Germany

"Germany has the world's oldest national social health insurance system,[1] with origins dating back to Otto von Bismarck's social legislation, which included the Health Insurance Bill of 1883, Accident Insurance Bill of 1884, and Old Age and Disability Insurance Bill of 1889.'

You support Britain's NHS, right? But are against America having one?
 
"According to the Euro health consumer index, which placed it in seventh position in its 2015 survey, Germany has long had the most restriction-free and consumer-oriented healthcare system in Europe. Patients are allowed to seek almost any type of care they wish whenever they want it.[10] The governmental health system in Germany is currently keeping a record reserve of more than €18 billion which makes it one of the healthiest healthcare systems in the world.[11]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Germany

"Germany has the world's oldest national social health insurance system,[1] with origins dating back to Otto von Bismarck's social legislation, which included the Health Insurance Bill of 1883, Accident Insurance Bill of 1884, and Old Age and Disability Insurance Bill of 1889.'

You support Britain's NHS, right? But are against America having one?

Why won't you answer my question, do that and I'll answer yours, is that fair?
 
Again you go with the bullshit, I've asked you the same question repeatedly but you just duck and dive. I can only assume that's because the answer is too hard for you to contemplate.

I've asked you to explain YOUR position, as a Conservative, why you endorse a Government run Health Care System that covers all the Citizens of a Country.
You refuse to answer because someone like Bull Durham will scream, point, and yell 'Havana is a Communist!!!'
 
Why won't you answer my question, do that and I'll answer yours, is that fair?

No. Because all you do is borrow Trump's Clown Suit, begin dancing around, pointing in different directions, and saying "America will never be a Communist Dictatorship".
Then will change the Subject and start talking about something totally unrelated ... kind of like what you are doing now.
 
No. Because all you do is borrow Trump's Clown Suit, begin dancing around, pointing in different directions, and saying "America will never be a Communist Dictatorship".
Then will change the Subject and start talking about something totally unrelated ... kind of like what you are doing now.

I asked that question previously but you just refuse to answer it. It's simply enough how can you reconcile the diametrically opposed positions, namely support for Colonel Sanders and energy independence. You can duck and dive as much as you want but it's plain to see that you've no answer.

I have on many occasions said that a single payer system would be better for the US, however I don't see much chance of it happening anytime soon. Many doctors are millionaires in the States and like the system the way it is. Even Aneurin Bevan had to make compromises to satisfy hospital consultants back in the late 40s.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6143581/
 
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Bernie is more electable than people expected. I can't wait until after he gets the nomination. Seeing Sanders and Trump on the debate stage is going to be golden. Sanders has spent his entire adult life fighting against the man that Trump represents, the epitome of corporate greed and malicious ignorance. And what's Trump gonna do -assuming he even has the courage to face him on the debate stage- call Sanders a communist? A crazy socialist? Get some new material maybe. Oh it's gonna be sweet.
And I just can't wait until people find out the Communist wants to eliminate all employer health insurance.

Bernie will be a gift to Trump - who can't stop winning.
 
He's advocating for the 'Working Class', which is who got Trump elected. Trump had his chance to deliver, now it will be Bernie's.
160 million Americans have employer insurance. If you think they will vote to have that eliminated, I have some swamp land to sell you.
 
I asked that question previously but you just refuse to answer it. It's simply enough how can you reconcile the diametrically opposed positions, namely support for Colonel Sanders and energy independence. You can duck and dive as much as you want but it's plain to see that you've no answer.

I have on many occasions said that a single payer system would be better for the US, however I don't see much chance of it happening anytime soon. Many doctors are millionaires in the States and like the system the way it is. Even Aneurin Bevan had to make compromises to satisfy hospital consultants back in the late 40s.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6143581/

Havana: "I have on many occasions said that a single payer system would be better for the US, ..."
Jack: Well, that's a start. I congratulate you on almost answering the question. Hopefully, your Right wing friends here won't brand you as a Communist.

As you well know, I've already answered YOUR question. I think 'Energy Independence' is a National Security issue. So, whatever 'energy' we use, I want it to be 'independent' of Foreign Control.


 
Havana: "I have on many occasions said that a single payer system would be better for the US, ..."
Jack: Well, that's a start. I congratulate you on almost answering the question. Hopefully, your Right wing friends here won't brand you as a Communist.

As you well know, I've already answered YOUR question. I think 'Energy Independence' is a National Security issue. So, whatever 'energy' we use, I want it to be 'independent' of Foreign Control.



You haven't answered my question, so I will ask again!! How can you reconcile belief in a candidate like Sanders that wants to ban fracking immediately with wanting energy independence? There is just no logic to that, you must know that surely? By the way this is not just a domestic matter as that prick Crypiss would have you believe. Fracking has caused the price of oil and gas to plummet, which of course Putin hates.
 
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You haven't answered my question, so I will ask again!! How can you reconcile belief in a candidate like Sanders that wants to ban fracking immediately with wanting energy independence? There is just no logic to that, you must know that surely? By the way this not just a domestic matter as that prick Crypiss would have you believe. Fracking has caused the price of oil and gas to plummet, which of course Putin hates.

No one Candidate is perfect. You have to have priorities. I support a National Health Plan for America. You support the NHS of Britain. I support something like that for the USA.
 
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