Why Claims of Russian Meddling Should Be Questioned

Did sending lethal aid to the Ukrainians help the Russians?

Did the Trump sanctions on Russia help the Russians?

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Jan 29, 2020 - The Trump administration on Wednesday announced new sanctions related to Russia’s annexation of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula. ... The U.S. sanctions also designate a Moscow-based private rail company, Grand Services Express, offering service between Russia and Crimea, as well as the..."
 
Because when Trump opens his mouth...words come out. Anything he says helps Putin. He is Putin's puppet. The fact that he is Putin's puppet...is the reason Putin wanted him elected.



Putin is not counting on anything but for Trump to be Trump. Putin wants America to be hurt and to be as weak as possible. Supporting Trump is the best way to get what he is aiming for.

I know, I know. You cannot see it. Putin is counting on people like you also.



EVERYTHING Trump does...helps Putin.

EVERYTHING you Trump supporters do in defense of Trump...

...HELPS PUTIN.
Trump has weakened our government, some think this is downsizing, but it isn’t, it’s about government that won’t operate efficiently. We are going to have it tested with this virus. I truly hope for the sake of people that it passes. The mayors, governors and state authorities are going to have to step up.
 
hat does one do when the country’s intelligence leadership is acting, well, not very intelligently? That is the inescapable question prompted by last week’s reports that a senior representative of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) told members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) in an official briefing that Russia is interfering in the 2020 U.S. presidential election and hopes to see President Donald Trump re-elected.


According to the New York Times account, Trump learned of this briefing only after the fact. And if press reports are accurate, the briefer cited no direct evidence of meddling on Trump’s behalf or of Russia’s broader intentions regarding U.S. presidential elections. Rather, the case was apparently based on inferences from such inherently ambiguous evidence as Russian hacking of the Ukrainian energy firm Burisma, supposedly done to help Trump dig up dirt on Hunter Biden. Such inferences were evidently reinforced by an assessment, lacking in analytical merit but redolent with politics, that the Kremlin would somehow naturally favor Trump over other 2020 presidential candidates.

Republican HPSCI members reportedly erupted in response. They disputed the plausibility of an assessment that Russia would prefer a president who has built up the U.S. military, proved willing to use force in the Middle East, greatly stiffened sanctions on Moscow, fought Russia’s Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project, and toughened other policies affecting Russia.
Why would Russians not favor Democrats who would cut the U.S. defense budget, balk at using military force, and impose a ban on fracking that would drive up global oil and gas prices and benefit Russia’s energy export earnings? Trump, in turn, called the allegation of Russian support a “hoax.


The Kremlin cannot fail to realize that any significant pro-Trump meddling would be exposed and would hurt rather than help his electoral prospects. This being the case, one might plausibly argue that the real reason Moscow might unveil some footprint of a pro-Trump campaign is because it would expect this to be discovered and actually harm Trump.

I do not see a link this word salad

Opinion piece by a rightwing author?
 
Wow...the fact that the "Dear Leader" you people all support appears to love Vlad Putin...really seems to be bothering you a lot.

Must be hard on the conscience to have to pretend as hard as you guys are doing for the Abomination.


Oh, well. It does have humor value...and for that, those of us watching this shit-show are grateful.

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You idiots make these stupid assertions about Trump's supposed love of Putin, in the face of demonstrable evidence to the contrary. I can only assume it is literally some form of psychopathy on your part. Have you considered getting professional help? You should.

Of course, in your case Gramps, it most likely just dementia. But I hear they have developed some new effective treatments. You should avail yourself of those Frank, you might live out your twilight years not being such an asshole.
 
You idiots make these stupid assertions about Trump's supposed love of Putin, in the face of demonstrable evidence to the contrary. I can only assume it is literally some form of psychopathy on your part. Have you considered getting professional help? You should.

Of course, in your case Gramps, it most likely just dementia. But I hear they have developed some new effective treatments. You should avail yourself of those Frank, you might live out your twilight years not being such an asshole.

Day off again??????????
 
Yes, Snowflake, you lie often.

“Trump admin approves new sale of anti-tank weapons to ...abcnews.go.com › Politics › story
Oct 1, 2019 - The Trump administration has approved the $39M sale of defensive lethal weapons to Ukraine, according ... U.S. arms sales to Ukraine have become embroiled in a controversy over President Donald Trump's dealings with Ukraine, after ... Ukraine has been fighting Russian-armed and led separatists in its ...
Yea. Sure.


Republicans involved in the impeachment inquiry have repeatedly touted the Trump administration's sale of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine as evidence the president is supportive of the country against Russian aggression, but they've left out key details in the process.
Under the rules of the sale, the Javelin missiles have to be stored in western Ukraine, which is far from the frontlines of the ongoing conflict in the eastern part of the country (the Donbas region) against pro-Russia separatists.
In short, the Javelins were essentially provided to Ukraine under the condition that they not be used in the conflict zone.



Now about the 'blankets' lie. Go ahead...prove it.

 
Fact check, it appears the crisi in Ukraine began in 2014, and nearing the end of Obama's second term he was reassessing
the supply of lethal aid to Ukraine. Therefore it appears that had Obama continued in office a third term, it is likely he would
have provided the same types and amounts of aid to Ukraine as Trump has.

I know this sober analysis does not feed your false narrative, but...suck and egg, Repugnant liars.

See below story by PBS

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/obama-reconsider-providing-lethal-aid-ukraine
Add to that the fact that what Ukraine was asking for was strategic support on the ground.

And, I find it interesting that the party of 'corruption' chooses to ignore that we couldn't be sure that our weapons wouldn't end up in the wrong hands.
 
How, exactly, is Trump helping Putin by opening his mouth?

You also have a contradiction to deal with: why should Putin believe Trump’s words when you don’t believe them yourself?

Especially, when all of Trump’s *actions* hurt Putin. It just doesn’t add up, Frank.
Are you privy to the multiple secret discussions trump has with Putin?
 
I do question your meddling. Why favor Trump? Why do you want to destroy the USA?
Don't you want an ally and not an enemy? It's stupid. You purchase our enduring enmity
by acts of aggression. So, yes, gnat, I question you. You are part of the Russian meddling.

I want to destroy liberalism

Trump is my best chance of that
 
Yea. Sure.





Now about the 'blankets' lie. Go ahead...prove it.

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CNSNews.com) – The fact that President Trump – unlike his predecessor – sent lethal military aid to Ukraine in the face of Russia’s aggression is “the real story that’s been lost in all this,” National Security Advisor Robert O’Brien said Sunday, in reference to Democrats’ drive to impeach the president.

Appearing on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” O’Brien recalled visiting Ukraine as an election monitor in 2014 and being asked by Ukrainians why “the arsenal of democracy” would not provide their country with military aid.

The election came amid Russian military intervention in support of separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine, and months after President Vladimir Putin had annexed the country’s strategic Crimea peninsula.

“I was there as part of a bipartisan election observation mission and I had young Ukrainian soldiers and young Ukrainians come up to me and say, ‘Why won’t the U.S., the arsenal of democracy, send us lethal aid? You’re sending us *blankets* and MREs. Why won’t President Obama send us military aid?’”

(MREs are pre-packaged military meals, or “meals, ready-to-eat.”)
 
You idiots make these stupid assertions about Trump's supposed love of Putin, in the face of demonstrable evidence to the contrary. I can only assume it is literally some form of psychopathy on your part. Have you considered getting professional help? You should.

Of course, in your case Gramps, it most likely just dementia. But I hear they have developed some new effective treatments. You should avail yourself of those Frank, you might live out your twilight years not being such an asshole.

you are such a SUCKER!

Trump would not piss on your if caught on fire. He probably thinks less of you...than I do!

:laugh:

SUCKER!
 
hat does one do when the country’s intelligence leadership is acting, well, not very intelligently? That is the inescapable question prompted by last week’s reports that a senior representative of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) told members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) in an official briefing that Russia is interfering in the 2020 U.S. presidential election and hopes to see President Donald Trump re-elected.


According to the New York Times account, Trump learned of this briefing only after the fact. And if press reports are accurate, the briefer cited no direct evidence of meddling on Trump’s behalf or of Russia’s broader intentions regarding U.S. presidential elections. Rather, the case was apparently based on inferences from such inherently ambiguous evidence as Russian hacking of the Ukrainian energy firm Burisma, supposedly done to help Trump dig up dirt on Hunter Biden. Such inferences were evidently reinforced by an assessment, lacking in analytical merit but redolent with politics, that the Kremlin would somehow naturally favor Trump over other 2020 presidential candidates.

Republican HPSCI members reportedly erupted in response. They disputed the plausibility of an assessment that Russia would prefer a president who has built up the U.S. military, proved willing to use force in the Middle East, greatly stiffened sanctions on Moscow, fought Russia’s Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project, and toughened other policies affecting Russia.
Why would Russians not favor Democrats who would cut the U.S. defense budget, balk at using military force, and impose a ban on fracking that would drive up global oil and gas prices and benefit Russia’s energy export earnings? Trump, in turn, called the allegation of Russian support a “hoax.


The Kremlin cannot fail to realize that any significant pro-Trump meddling would be exposed and would hurt rather than help his electoral prospects. This being the case, one might plausibly argue that the real reason Moscow might unveil some footprint of a pro-Trump campaign is because it would expect this to be discovered and actually harm Trump.

Instead of questioned, do you mean suppressed??????????????
 
Add to that the fact that what Ukraine was asking for was strategic support on the ground.

And, I find it interesting that the party of 'corruption' chooses to ignore that we couldn't be sure that our weapons wouldn't end up in the wrong hands.
it's not like the Syrian battlefield you Dotard.
The Russian separatists have Russian weapons = to US/NATO efficiency.

And most of it is trench warfare, not the open lands of Syria where arming the FSA took a real risk of weapons falling into the hands of jihadists. ( they often did when al-Nusra overran caches)

For once do some research before you flap your gums about things you obviously know nothing about :palm:
 
Because when Trump opens his mouth...words come out. Anything he says helps Putin. He is Putin's puppet. The fact that he is Putin's puppet...is the reason Putin wanted him elected.



Putin is not counting on anything but for Trump to be Trump. Putin wants America to be hurt and to be as weak as possible. Supporting Trump is the best way to get what he is aiming for.

I know, I know. You cannot see it. Putin is counting on people like you also.



EVERYTHING Trump does...helps Putin.

EVERYTHING you Trump supporters do in defense of Trump...

...HELPS PUTIN.
Frank this is such a pile of nebulous horseshit without any contextual meaning
ignoring it instead of picking it apart is doing you a favor
 
it's not like the Syrian battlefield you Dotard.
The Russian separatists have Russian weapons = to US/NATO efficiency.

And most of it is trench warfare, not the open lands of Syria where arming the FSA took a real risk of weapons falling into the hands of jihadists. ( they often did when al-Nusra overran caches)

For once do some research before you flap your gums about things you obviously know nothing about :palm:

Old Althea certainly did not know about the lethal aid provided by President Trump and the "blankets and MRE's" provided by Obama.
 
Frank this is such a pile of nebulous horseshit without any contextual meaning
ignoring it instead of picking it apart is doing you a favor

Frank is old and has no fastball.

His posts now just have comedic value.

Nada else.
 
Trump has weakened our government, some think this is downsizing, but it isn’t, it’s about government that won’t operate efficiently. We are going to have it tested with this virus. I truly hope for the sake of people that it passes. The mayors, governors and state authorities are going to have to step up.
Trump weakened? more mierda!
Your claim that only an overstuffed government unable to get out of it's own way with entangling Red Tape
is somehow a 'stronger ' government is 100% without merit
 
Wow...the fact that the "Dear Leader" you people all support appears to love Vlad Putin...really seems to be bothering you a lot.

Except that it isn't a "fact" that the president "appears to love Vlad Putin". It's an opinion. What's your opinion based on?
 
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