Oy vey.
Tell ya what...go ahead and lick the fever sweat off the forehead of any coronavirus patient you can find if you don't think this is such a big deal.
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Oy vey.
Tell ya what...go ahead and lick the fever sweat off the forehead of any coronavirus patient you can find if you don't think this is such a big deal.
Darth Omar
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Don’t like the question lol?
Don't like the assignment, do ya?
I mean, seriously, put your money where your mouth is.
The thing about this virus is that it's not that you might get sick and die, it's that you might carry the virus and transmit it to someone who could contract it and die because their immune systems aren't as strong, they have a condition that gets amplified by this, they're old, or they're kids.
The problem you and every Centrist and Conservative has, is that you are incapable of thinking about anyone else but yourself, and you don't hold yourself to any standard whatsoever.
That's simply because no one in your entire life has ever challenged you to be a better version of who you are.
The reason why no one's challenged you to be better is because no one cares enough about you to try.
You seem disappointed.
I don't believe you.
I think you are hoping that tens of thousands die before November.
BTW, children don't seem to be severely affected by COVID-19. I don't think you know what you're wishing for.
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Darth Omar
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Dude, that’s kind of the thing with any virus.
jimmymccready
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Conservatives, be better versions of yourselves, please!
There is nothing certain about this, and only a fool would say there is. The number might be lower, BUT IT ALSO MIGHT BE HIGHER. Beyond that Coronavirus is evolving...
Oh I forgot, you are from the party that the majority of the members say evolution is impossible. trump put a creationist in charge of combating an evolution problem. I hope your prayer works wonders.
Darth Omar
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How can evolution work if some kind of viruses can’t evolve lol?
It’s not a question of evolution but of simple math: the total number of cases is the denominator in the equation. Divide the total number of cases by the total numbers of deaths by the virus and you have a mortality rate.
I posted an article from the New England Journal of Medicine recently that explained why the mortality rate with COVID-19 is very likely lower—perhaps much lower than what’s being reported.
And here it is: The denominator in the equation is too low. And that is nearly an absolute certainty because not everyone who comes down with flu symptoms is being tested for COVID. People who come down with mild symptoms from COVID have the same right to be represented in the statistics as frail nursing home residents who catch it. But they are being ‘disenfranchised’ to put in political terms.
The implication to that is there are likely people walking around with COVID that don’t know it and/or had it and didn’t know it. Especially in the younger population. There’s good evidence kids are effectively resistant to to it—but they get included in the stats—IF you want the stats to be reflective of reality.
The US doesn’t have a large data base because not enough cases have been reported but so far the fatalities have been limited to the frail elderly and one 50 year old with underlying conditions.
Put it all together and it sounds flu-like. Something that is cause for concern has driven people to panic.
Oh, so now you're criticizing the VP because of his spiritual beliefs? This virus is an "evolution problem"? Seriously?
The problem with you Walt (and so many other libturds) is you can't believe anyone you disagree with can do a good job. Face it Walt, you scream and cry that Trump is such a bad president and want him removed, then you bitch when he puts the VP (who really doesn't do much anyway) to work. How many presidents made their VP's do anything? You libturds can't go through one single day without crying and bitching about something. Get a life...
All viruses evolve. RNA viruses (like Coronavirus or HIV) evolve super fast. Literally over a few days, they can evolve completely different characteristics. When a virus is introduced into a population, for technical reasons its evolution rate increases radically. So Coronavirus might evolve quickly into something very different.
There are several flaws in that. If you take the total number of cases in a pandemic that has run its course, and compare it to a pandemic that has not run its course, you are comparing patients who have either died or recovered, to patients who are at the beginning of either dying or recovering. Lets say there were 100k patients, 2k have died, and 2k have recovered. You would say that there is a fatality rate of 2%, even though a few weeks later 50k of them have died, and the more accurate rate would be 50%.
Then there is the problem of figuring out how many people have the Coronavirus. Potentially, some people have it and it is too mild to detect. But also there are people who have other diseases that are being misdiagnosed as Coronavirus. It becomes quite complex in the moment to figure it all out. Maybe a year or two from now we will have good numbers.
And if the Coronavirus becomes more lethal, like the Spanish Flu did, who cares if it previously "only" killed 2%.
Darth Omar
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I’ve had 12 hours of bacteriology/microbiology and we covered the bit about viruses evolving lol.
You mentioned viruses evolving as if this were a special characteristic about COVID. Since you brought it up, viral evolution is a random process so the virus can de-evolve to a less virulent form just as easily as it can go the other way. Bacterial ‘evolution’ is a real problem in healthcare because bacteria can evolve resistance to antibiotics [in fact, it’s a given that they will when antibiotics are over prescribed] but this ‘evolution’ typically entails a *loss* of the particular genetic information that relates to how the bug is affected by the antibiotic.
So that process is kind of ‘uninteresting’ from a Darwinian standpoint.
At any rate, you’re making my argument for me. No one has a good handle on the COVID mortality rate because of all the variables, lack of data etc. I’ve seen any where from less than 1% up to 3.5. But there is a way around this and it’s right under our noses.
It’s a given that the denominator is too small: it’s impossible to test everyone who has flu like symptoms. But what have we *seen*? Fatalities are clustered *in the same population* that are most affected by the common flu. If this was some kind of historic Super Bug with a high mortality/transmission rate we’d know it by now.
But it’s failing to appear.
Right, but this particular strain is stronger than others, and puts weaker folks at risk. It adds yet another virulent strain that needs vaccinations to create herd immunity. Not everyone is as privileged as you are to have a strong immune system (for now).
cancel2 2022
Canceled
You're a real scaremonger, aren't you?
"stronger" then what others?
It's mild flu like symptoms - it's the infection potential that makes it bad
It's mild like flu symptoms for people who have relatively strong immune systems.
It's not mild like flu systems for people who don't...WHICH IS THE POINT YOU FOOL.
Airstrip One
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You first, progressive.
jimmymccready
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Coronoavirus is an old age and poor health sweeper and keeper, much more virulent than the flu.
Does it still sound like the common flu to you?
Those who minimized despite facts have blood on their hands.
Trump boot-licking has not aged well