Government Police Gang Rape Man

Nothing to see here, move along.

In this case, Mineo is white and the officers are black, Hispanic and white.
 
uscitizen said:
Brooklyn....

Of course if we privatize the police force this would not be a problem.
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I'm not sure how I feel about allowing the market to handle police duties, but if it did, why would anyone purchase police services from a company which rapes people?

With the gov't police, there is no alternative. We have to hope that Internal Affairs takes care of this. We all know the history of police corruption.
 
ironhead said:
I'm not sure how I feel about allowing the market to handle police duties, but if it did, why would anyone purchase police services from a company which rapes people?

With the gov't police, there is no alternative. We have to hope that Internal Affairs takes care of this. We all know the history of police corruption.
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Because that is what they used to do. The reality is there have been examples of privatized police forces. They usually wind up taking money to enforce a "protection" on your behalf.
 
Damocles said:
Because that is what they used to do. The reality is there have been examples of privatized police forces. They usually wind up taking money to enforce a "protection" on your behalf.
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There are plenty of government police doing this now.

What private security forces are experiencing this problem?
 
RStringfield said:
There are plenty of government police doing this now.

What private security forces are experiencing this problem?
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What private security forces are being asked to investigate murder, keep the public safe, etc..?

The job of a police officer is a lot different than that of joe the security guard.
 
Watermark said:
What private security forces are being asked to investigate murder, keep the public safe, etc..?
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Just about all of them are charged with safety of the public. And private investigators are put to work on various crimes all the time.

Watermark said:
The job of a police officer is a lot different than that of joe the security guard.
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Yes, a security guard is just another citizen. No different than you or me. The job of a police officer comes with a right to violate the rights of your fellow citizens within the law and occasionally outside of it.
 
RString - What limits would there be on the powers of private police forces? At the very least, we theoretically have the Constitution to check the powers of law enforcement. Private entities would not be bound by the strictures of the Constitution. What would check their powers?
 
RStringfield said:
There are plenty of government police doing this now.

What private security forces are experiencing this problem?
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You fail to comprehend what I stated.

Back before there were "government police", and in times during it, there were forces who enforced "protection" on others, and while doing so perpetrated some heinous crimes. It is preposterous to assume that giving that kind of power to people who are not government somehow changes them into perfect examples of restraint.

The comparison of current mall cop to the power of a police force is also preposterous and extreme based more in wishes than in reality.

The attempt to "fire" the security back in the day would cause those providing "protection" to cause them problems...
 
We would all have to sue the private police force for any justice.

They would pretty much eliminate any unions and such is one advantage ?
 
uscitizen said:
We would all have to sue the private police force for any justice.

They would pretty much eliminate any unions and such is one advantage ?
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We already have to sue the government police for justice, otherwise they tend to run roughshod over the public interest. Often the courts rule with them regardless. In CO Springs they even said they don't have the responsibility to protect the citizens...

Imagine a privatized group with that kind of power who has incentive to make arrests (bonuses, we already know how stupid corporations incentivize certain activity by giving bonuses and often incentivize the wrong activity for the company, let alone the community), to incarcerate more of the citizens...

The idea that a corporate bureaucracy somehow is more beneficent, perfect and always blameless, and cannot be corrupted because the markets will somehow be able to take their power from them is silly.

The reason we trust the government to oversee such forces is because there are constitutional limits to their power and we can sue them, and often do, with good effect.
 
Damocles said:
We already have to sue the government police for justice, otherwise they tend to run roughshod over the public interest. Often the courts rule with them regardless. In CO Springs they even said they don't have the responsibility to protect the citizens...

Imagine a privatized group with that kind of power, who has incentive to make arrests (bonuses, we already know how stupid corporations incentivize certain activity by giving bonuses and often incentivize the wrong activity for the company, let alone the community), to incarcerate more of the citizens...
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Nevermind.
 
There is a place for government, this falls in the "Roads and Commodes" area. People expect certain activity to be undertaken by the government, this is one of them.

While portions of the many services they provide nowadays can be privatized, and often are by the police forces themselves using contractors, the reality is that the power is better checked by creating a public police force. It isn't going to change and the discussion of privatized police forces will forever be a study in simply mental activity of the imagination. Much like a truly free market.
 
Dungheap said:
RString - What limits would there be on the powers of private police forces? At the very least, we theoretically have the Constitution to check the powers of law enforcement. Private entities would not be bound by the strictures of the Constitution. What would check their powers?
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The constitution provides no real limit on the powers of the state. It's a government court that decides if there are any violations. And most violations never make it to any court. Only our societies diminishing respect for individual rights keeps the government from doing whatever it pleases.

What private police force would outlaw marijuana? There would have to be a large number of clients willing to voluntarily pay to fund an intrusive drug war and that is highly unlikely. The market would not support such action and neither would it support a service that gang rapes individuals for such a "crime."
 
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