George Zimmerman case ( state used phony witness) proceeding in Florida

16 going on 12?
Is that supposed to make sense?

You are the one who mocked Eastern Euros as inbred dumb trash.

My apologies, I was writing to an American audience, not to Eastern Euro trash. Let me dumb it down for you: "Duhhhhh, are you gettin' stupider da older you get?" I sincerely hope that makes more sense to you.

Kid, you are free to whine and point fingers but everyone can see you started off the racial/cultural crap with your rants against the US compared to the Euros. They can see it, maybe one day you will too.
 
Sorry, Dutch, I’m not replaying this with people. I think Zimmerman is a liar and I think his version of the events was a lie. Nothing will convince me otherwise. Another issue we will have to agree to disagree.

Do you have evidence Zimmerman is a liar? Or, you're just assuming he's a liar because you hate white lighter-skin people? Or, are you just assuming he's a liar like everyone in any situations trying to spin things in their favor?

The facts prove %#%^* Trayvon ambushed him, regardless of Zimmerman's relationship with honesty. The fact is, you're a liar who doesn't care about the evidence: The confrontation took place in the location where Zimmerman was earlier when he was talking to police, proving Trayvon circled around and ambushed Zimmerman.
 
Do you have evidence Zimmerman is a liar? Or, you're just assuming he's a liar because you hate white lighter-skin people? Or, are you just assuming he's a liar like everyone in any situations trying to spin things in their favor?

The facts prove %#%^ Trayvon ambushed him, regardless of Zimmerman's relationship with honesty. The fact is, you're a liar who doesn't care about the evidence: The confrontation took place in the location where Zimmerman was earlier when he was talking to police, proving Trayvon circled around and ambushed Zimmerman.

GZ was not exactly a model citizen with a stellar reputation before the incident so why are you such an advocate for this loser who could not even manage to stay out of trouble and negative news stories even after his sorry dumb ass was saved from a prison sentence? Unbelievable!
 
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GZ was not exactly a model citizen with a stellar reputation before the incident so why are you such an advocate for this loser who could not even manage to stay out of trouble and negative news stories even after his sorry dumb ass was saved from a prison sentence? Unbelievable!

Why don't you talk about the #%^* Travyon's character? The %#%^ constantly used racial slurrs. He enjoyed intimidating people. At the time of the confrontation, he was suspended from school after being found with drugs and burglary tools. You are such a fkcking retarded racist. You're retarded because you think character proves what happened. You're racist because you hold the two to such extremely different standards.
 
Zimmerman was a damn bigot who stalked the kid through the community with harm in his heart. He was told by a dispatcher to quit following him and he refused. He continued harassing the kid who committed the crime of buying Skittles until he lost control and got out of his truck to confront him. All of this was Zimmernmans doing. He could have minded his own business and gone on his way. But he did not. He had lots of opportunities to break off and wait for cops who would want to arrest a kid who committed Skittle crimes. This whole fucking thing was his fault and a kid died.
 
Zimmerman was a damn bigot who stalked the kid through the community with harm in his heart. He was told by a dispatcher to quit following him and he refused. He continued harassing the kid who committed the crime of buying Skittles until he lost control and got out of his truck to confront him. All of this was Zimmernmans doing. He could have minded his own business and gone on his way. But he did not. He had lots of opportunities to break off and wait for cops who would want to arrest a kid who committed Skittle crimes. This whole fucking thing was his fault and a kid died.

I'm not here to discuss politics, Zimmerman, etc. pet se. I'm here to watch the total fcktard circus that you, Nordturd, and other racist morons are part of. Zimmerman did break off, you incredibly fcking pathetic excuse for a human being.
 
My apologies, I was writing to an American audience, not to Eastern Euro trash. Let me dumb it down for you: "Duhhhhh, are you gettin' stupider da older you get?" I sincerely hope that makes more sense to you.

Kid, you are free to whine and point fingers but everyone can see you started off the racial/cultural crap with your rants against the US compared to the Euros. They can see it, maybe one day you will too.

You are prime example of Western European stupidity.

Out of all people in the USA to attack, you decide to attack Eastern European Americans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Americans

By educational attainment, the U.S. Census estimates that 42.5% have bachelor's degrees or higher, whereas the American population as a whole is 32.0%.[27] The median household income for Americans of Polish descent is estimated by the U.S. Census as $73,452, with no statistically significant differences from other Slavic-American groups, Czech, Slovak, and Ukrainian. The median household income for those of Russian ancestry has been reported as higher on the U.S. Census, at $80,554.[24]

Socioeconomic indicators: 2017[24]
Ethnicity Household Income College degrees (%)
Russian $80,554 60.4
Polish $73,452 42.5
Czech $71,663 45.4
Serbian $79,135 46.0
Slovak $73,093 44.8
Ukrainian $75,674 52.2
White non-Hispanic $65,845 35.8
Total US Population $60,336 32.0
 
You are prime example of Western European stupidity.

Out of all people in the USA to attack, you decide to attack Eastern European Americans.

Thanks for another example of your hate for anything west of Poland. You're the one who brought up this bigotry and now you are whining like a six year old that it's being reflected back on you. When you grow up, I hope you understand why you look so hypocritical and ignorant.
 
Thanks for another example of your hate for anything west of Poland. You're the one who brought up this bigotry and now you are whining like a six year old that it's being reflected back on you. When you grow up, I hope you understand why you look so hypocritical and ignorant.

When I see you attack Guno's Jews for his anti-Western attitudes, anti-White attitudes, or TTQ64's African Americans for his anti-Western attitudes, and anti-White attitudes then maybe
I'll take you seriously.
 
This thread has really gotten sidetracked. It's about the state using a PHONY WITNESS in their attempt to throw a man in prison for life.!!!! If true that is a huge scandal.
 
Thanks for another example of your hate for anything west of Poland. You're the one who brought up this bigotry and now you are whining like a six year old that it's being reflected back on you. When you grow up, I hope you understand why you look so hypocritical and ignorant.
When I see you attack Guno's Jews for his anti-Western attitudes, anti-White attitudes, or TTQ64's African Americans for his anti-Western attitudes, and anti-White attitudes then maybe
I'll take you seriously.

Yup, you're just like a six year old. Now you are blaming your bigotry on others just like a six year old says "Buuuttt Mommmm....they made me do it!!!"
 
This thread has really gotten sidetracked. It's about the state using a PHONY WITNESS in their attempt to throw a man in prison for life.!!!! If true that is a huge scandal.

Over two hundred posts in and you still don't understand he was acquitted? That no one has changed their minds on this eight years later?

Zimmerman was right to defend himself. He did nothing wrong. Martin attacked him. Martin is dead. End of story. The fact Obama injected himself into this and the fact it came about the same time as there was more public concern about the shootings young black men (mostly by other young black men) all worked against an open-and-shut case of self-defense. As noted earlier, Zimmerman and Martin each became political poster children for two different groups...and neither should have been. Neither should have been a model for the NRA or BLM.
 
GZ was not exactly a model citizen with a stellar reputation before the incident so why are you such an advocate for this loser who could not even manage to stay out of trouble and negative news stories even after his sorry dumb ass was saved from a prison sentence? Unbelievable!

Zimmerman was a damn bigot who stalked the kid through the community with harm in his heart. He was told by a dispatcher to quit following him and he refused. He continued harassing the kid who committed the crime of buying Skittles until he lost control and got out of his truck to confront him. All of this was Zimmernmans doing. He could have minded his own business and gone on his way. But he did not. He had lots of opportunities to break off and wait for cops who would want to arrest a kid who committed Skittle crimes. This whole fucking thing was his fault and a kid died.

Why do clueless, uniformed idiots like you two occasionally force me to side with idiots like Bobb???

It is plainly obvious that neither one of you know wtf you're talking about in terms of the facts and evidence in this case.

Prior to this incident and the national/international furor that erupted over it and him being charged with a crime in spite of the facts pointing to a clear case of self defense, Zimmerman was a decent, quiet, dependable and reliable citizen who mentored young black kids and volunteered his own time to head the neighborhood watch program because his community had been under assault from young, hoodie-wearing black teenage boys coming in and committing crimes.

Now, you want to judge him on the basis of who and what he became after and as a result of, the traumatic experience he endured.

Reuters is one of the oldest and most respected international news wire services in the world. They have a long history and reputation for being a trustworthy news and information source. In 2012 during the aftermath of the shooting, they published an article titled "George Zimmerman: Prelude to a shooting". Below is an excerpt from it with a link to the rest of the article.

I dare you Zimmerman haters to read it...

By June 2011, Zimmerman’s attention had shifted from a loose pit bull to a wave of robberies that rattled the community, called the Retreat at Twin Lakes. The homeowners association asked him to launch a neighborhood watch, and Zimmerman would begin to carry the Kel-Tec on his regular, dog-walking patrol - a violation of neighborhood watch guidelines but not a crime.

Few of his closest neighbors knew he carried a gun - until two months ago.

On February 26, George Zimmerman shot and killed unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin in what Zimmerman says was self-defense. The furor that ensued has consumed the country and prompted a re-examination of guns, race and self-defense laws enacted in nearly half the United States.

During the time Zimmerman was in hiding, his detractors defined him as a vigilante who had decided Martin was suspicious merely because he was black. After Zimmerman was finally arrested on a charge of second-degree murder more than six weeks after the shooting, prosecutors portrayed him as a violent and angry man who disregarded authority by pursuing the 17-year-old.

But a more nuanced portrait of Zimmerman has emerged from a Reuters investigation into Zimmerman’s past and a series of incidents in the community in the months preceding the Martin shooting.

Based on extensive interviews with relatives, friends, neighbors, schoolmates and co-workers of Zimmerman in two states, law enforcement officials, and reviews of court documents and police reports, the story sheds new light on the man at the center of one of the most controversial homicide cases in America.

The 28-year-old insurance-fraud investigator comes from a deeply Catholic background and was taught in his early years to do right by those less fortunate. He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him.

A criminal justice student who aspired to become a judge, Zimmerman also concerned himself with the safety of his neighbors after a series of break-ins committed by young African-American men.

Though civil rights demonstrators have argued Zimmerman should not have prejudged Martin, one black neighbor of the Zimmermans said recent history should be taken into account.

“Let’s talk about the elephant in the room. I’m black, OK?” the woman said, declining to be identified because she anticipated backlash due to her race. She leaned in to look a reporter directly in the eyes. “There were black boys robbing houses in this neighborhood,” she said. “That’s why George was suspicious of Trayvon Martin.”


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...n-prelude-to-a-shooting-idUSBRE83O18H20120425

I wonder how many, if any of the uninformed knee-jerk reactionaries will have the spine to open the link and read the article.

I also wonder if any right-wingers will ever acknowledge the huge role Republican Governor Rick Scott played in the needless prosecution of Zimmerman merely for his own political benefit and expedience. Rick Scumbag Scott was willing to see an innocent young man sent to prison, possibly for the rest of his life, just to to deflect the irrational ire and criticism away from himself.

Any of you Repugnants ever going to acknowledge that?


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Yup, you're just like a six year old. Now you are blaming your bigotry on others just like a six year old says "Buuuttt Mommmm....they made me do it!!!"

I never said such a thing.
I'm saying you're too much of a Politically correct dumbo to attack Jews, or Blacks in response to a user who's bigoted.

You think bashing Poles, or Eastern Europeans are okay, because the Politically correct police didn't tell you otherwise.
 
I never said such a thing.
I'm saying you're too much of a Politically correct dumbo to attack Jews, or Blacks in response to a user who's bigoted.

You think bashing Poles, or Eastern Europeans are okay, because the Politically correct police didn't tell you otherwise.

LOL. Sad that you are sooooo sensitive and can't recognize your own hatred, bigotry and hypocrisy. The fact you threw in some lies/false accusations is just the icing on the cake.

Feel free to point to any post that is like your juvenile bigotry and I'll be happy to call them on it too no matter the race, religion or nationality/culture.
 
More from the Reuters article:

A NEIGHBORHOOD IN FEAR

By the summer of 2011, Twin Lakes was experiencing a rash of burglaries and break-ins. Previously a family-friendly, first-time homeowner community, it was devastated by the recession that hit the Florida housing market, and transient renters began to occupy some of the 263 town houses in the complex. Vandalism and occasional drug activity were reported, and home values plunged. One resident who bought his home in 2006 for $250,000 said it was worth $80,000 today.

At least eight burglaries were reported within Twin Lakes in the 14 months prior to the Trayvon Martin shooting, according to the Sanford Police Department. Yet in a series of interviews, Twin Lakes residents said dozens of reports of attempted break-ins and would-be burglars casing homes had created an atmosphere of growing fear in the neighborhood.

In several of the incidents, witnesses identified the suspects to police as young black men. Twin Lakes is about 50 percent white, with an African-American and Hispanic population of about 20 percent each, roughly similar to the surrounding city of Sanford, according to U.S. Census data.

One morning in July 2011, a black teenager walked up to Zimmerman’s front porch and stole a bicycle, neighbors told Reuters. A police report was taken, though the bicycle was not recovered.

But it was the August incursion into the home of Olivia Bertalan that really troubled the neighborhood, particularly Zimmerman. Shellie was home most days, taking online courses towards certification as a registered nurse.

On August 3, Bertalan was at home with her infant son while her husband, Michael, was at work. She watched from a downstairs window, she said, as two black men repeatedly rang her doorbell and then entered through a sliding door at the back of the house. She ran upstairs, locked herself inside the boy’s bedroom, and called a police dispatcher, whispering frantically.

“I said, ‘What am I supposed to do? I hear them coming up the stairs!’” she told Reuters. Bertalan tried to coo her crying child into silence and armed herself with a pair of rusty scissors.

Police arrived just as the burglars - who had been trying to disconnect the couple’s television - fled out a back door. Shellie Zimmerman saw a black male teen running through her backyard and reported it to police.


After police left Bertalan, George Zimmerman arrived at the front door in a shirt and tie, she said. He gave her his contact numbers on an index card and invited her to visit his wife if she ever felt unsafe. He returned later and gave her a stronger lock to bolster the sliding door that had been forced open.

“He was so mellow and calm, very helpful and very, very sweet,” she said last week. “We didn’t really know George at first, but after the break-in we talked to him on a daily basis. People were freaked out. It wasn’t just George calling police ... we were calling police at least once a week.”
 
LOL. Sad that you are sooooo sensitive and can't recognize your own hatred, bigotry and hypocrisy. The fact you threw in some lies/false accusations is just the icing on the cake.

Feel free to point to any post that is like your juvenile bigotry and I'll be happy to call them on it too no matter the race, religion or nationality/culture.

No, the hypocrisy is on your part.

Thinking you are against bigotry, but it's okay to bash groups with bigotry in response to 1 person from that group being bigoted.
 
More from the Reuters article:
A NEIGHBORHOOD IN FEAR

By the summer of 2011, Twin Lakes was experiencing a rash of burglaries and break-ins. Previously a family-friendly, first-time homeowner community, it was devastated by the recession that hit the Florida housing market, and transient renters began to occupy some of the 263 town houses in the complex. Vandalism and occasional drug activity were reported, and home values plunged. One resident who bought his home in 2006 for $250,000 said it was worth $80,000 today....

Thanks, but unfortunately facts won't sway the anti-gun/BLM crowd. They are still claiming Zimmerman wanted to kill himself a black teenager and ran Martin down with his "car" before leaping out with his pistol in hand to murder an "innocent child". Completely delusional, of course, but that's how they think.

Example:
Florida has a stand your ground law. Zimmerman was chasing Martin with a car (a deadly weapon) and a gun(a deadly weapon). He was going to kill Martin. Doesn't stand your ground mean Martin should have been allowed to kill Zimmerman?
 
No, the hypocrisy is on your part.

Thinking you are against bigotry, but it's okay to bash groups with bigotry in response to 1 person from that group being bigoted.

I offered you to point out a single post and you are refusing. Figures. Good luck, kid. You're going to need it.
 
I offered you to point out a single post and you are refusing. Figures. Good luck, kid. You're going to need it.

You might call them out on bigotry, but I highly doubt you'd actually attack Jews, or Blacks in response to a Jewish bigot, or Black bigot.

Because, like most Western Europeans, you are kind of well, dumb.
 
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