in what fashion? where? how is it misapplied ?.. are you talking about illegals ( who don't get it)
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ROFL...so beneath all the rhetoric you are still a Torey ? that's hilarious!Stick it up your arse, kiddo, as you drive out everyone who cares for anything but money. Long live land theft, slavery and alliance with French autocracy!
Illegals have basic rights to due process in terms of a hearing IF they get here
But we can still turn them back or build a wall, or use REMAIN to keep them out
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Stick it up your arse, kiddo, as you drive out everyone who cares for anything but money. Long live land theft, slavery and alliance with French autocracy!
This is the arsehole that always whinging that the bloody English starve the plucky Welsh of money.
Of course they get it. Did you think immigrants aren't protected by the Constitution? Anyone who is under our jurisdiction is protected by the Constitution.
No. IF we take jurisdiction of them, for example when we separate them from their families, they immediately have constitutional rights.
rather then argue if they do or do not. you need to flesh out your statement. It has no merit besides a talking point/ if you can't give an example
what did I just say? I said we can keep them out, and in some cases return them to Mexico (like the REMAIN program)
Also there is a difference in administative law and Constitutional rights..so WTF were you talking about then?
No need to argue the point. They do. And separating them from their families without due process is IMHO, trampling on their constitutional right of due process. At least one Federal Judge agreed.
LOL, Administrative law can't violate the constitution.
Yes, we can keep them out. But that's not what I was talking about, so I have no idea why you brought it up.
i know that. but it can certainly short cut it .. REMAIN being but one example
but as usual you got nothing thing when pressed so as usual you are a complete waste of time.
why are you even here? so you can rant?
I don't think you have any idea "what you were talking about"
Sorry you don't agree with me. You can always block me, I wouldn't miss you that much. But every argument I make has substance. It's just not substance you care to acknowledge. That's your problem not mine. By separating families at the border, the Administration violated the constitutional rights of those children according to a Federal Judge. Take it up with him.
No, you just don't understand it. I can't teach physics to a yapping chihuahua either. Doesn't mean that's my fault.
see ? you finally got the words out! I knew you could do it! have a cookie..but WHAT JUDGE AND WHERE...
a "Federal judge" is not the sole arbitrator
Your arguments are shallow and based on ideology. Your debate ability isn't much more then a rant
you give no specifics /you cite "a federal judge" there is nothing to discuss much less "teach"
https://bipartisanpolicy.org/blog/why-are-families-being-separated-at-the-border-an-explainer/
The use of criminal charges against parents caught crossing the border triggers a legal situation that necessitates separating children, while the use of civil immigration detention and removal does not require this to occur. When adults are detained and prosecuted in the criminal justice system for immigration offenses, their children cannot, by law, be housed with them in criminal jails, so the family unit is separated. The children are placed with the Department of Health and Human Services in shelters until they can be released to a family member, guardian, or foster family in the United States.
Perhaps a reminder of the genesis of this discussion would be in order. I was comparing the two situations, and the comparison is valid. I have no idea why you've lost your mind over it.
Here is the ruling I mentioned.
https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-judge-rules-detention-unconstitutional-20180714-story.html
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Hello dukkha,
Some children were never reunited with their families. That is a violation of human rights.
Some children were never reunited with their families. That is a violation of human rights.
I see this from a different angle. Sockkha, if that is his real name, is making a digression. He wants to keep
brown poor people below and invisible line and if Trump was willing to slice their children's necks open and drink their blood to make sure
they don't get in here and take anything he feels entitled to, he's OK
with that, so long as he doesn't have to see it. Or wax legalese.
brown poor people below and invisible line and if Trump was willing to slice their children's necks open and drink their blood to make sure
they don't get in here and take anything he feels entitled to, he's OK
with that, so long as he doesn't have to see it. Or wax legalese.