Hate crime or self defense?

Hate crime or self defense?

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Jack said:
It looked like the black guy was running past the white truck, ... and then the next thing you see is the black guy with his hands on the barrel of the shotgun. He could have kept running. What made him grab the shotgun? That didn't seem overly intelligent.

Christie: "rather than trying to push it away because it was pointed at him?"
Jack: Maybe we looked at different videos? It looked like the black guy was trying to wrestle the shotgun from the Owner.
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We know that a lunk holding a gun was shouting at Arbery and demanding that he stop.

What's the difference between "trying to wrestle the shotgun from the owner" and trying to disarm someone who is threatening to shoot you?
 
Bigdog said:
Why did the driver get out of the truck, Jack?
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(sigh) Is this '20 Questions'?
Maybe he wanted to know if the black guy was responsible for the recent watermelon thefts around the neighborhood?

Then ... the black guy said "Gimmee that shotgun, boy!"
Then ... Lil' Bubba said "No, my Daddy gave me that shotgun".
Then ... the black guy said "You give me that shotgun you fat Cracka'."
Then ... Lil Bubba started to cry and said "No!"
Then ... the black guy said "Gimmee that shotgun, I'm going to stick it up your fat ass."
Then ... Lil' Bubba said "Don't make me kill you Boy."
Then ... the black guy started laughing and said "I'm gonna' kill you AND your Daddy!"
Then ... Lil' Bubba said "No you ain't."
... and that's when Lil' Bubba started blasting away. POW! POW! POW!
 
christiefan915 said:
We know that a lunk holding a gun was shouting at Arbery and demanding that he stop.

What's the difference between "trying to wrestle the shotgun from the owner" and trying to disarm someone who is threatening to shoot you?
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You could keep jogging and ignore the guy ... figuring he won't shoot you in the back.

Or ... you could stop ... think 'Hey, I know. I'll grab the wrong end of this shotgun. That's a Good Idea'.
... and then receive a Lesson in Firearms Training. :(
 
Jack said:
(sigh) Is this '20 Questions'?

... and that's when Lil' Bubba started blasting away. POW! POW! POW!
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It was just one question. Why are you throwing a hissy fit?

I didn't see "Lil Bubba" fire any shots. :dunno:
 
These pointless, racist, degenerate denials of facts are typical of the scum that American conservatives have become.
 
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moon said:
These pointless, racist, degenerate denial of facts are typical of the scum that American conservatives have become.
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Become?

Sorry but white america supports these people and their false stats of Black Americans.

When you vote republican this is what you support.
 
Legion said:



The Georgia Bureau of Investigation is now investigating the Feb. 23 shooting death of Ahmaud Arbery, which followed a daytime confrontation with an armed father and son on a neighborhood street in southern Glynn County.

In a brief tweet released late Tuesday night, the GBI said it is investigating the fatal shooting at the request of Liberty County District Attorney Tom Durden.

Durden, who represents the Atlantic Judicial Circuit, announced on Tuesday that he has asked a Glynn County grand jury to consider criminal charges against Travis McMichael, 34, and his father, Gregory McMichael, 64.

The two armed men pursued Arbery for a block in a pickup truck inside the Satilla Shores community, according to a Glynn County police report.

Travis McMichael stepped out of the truck with a shotgun and confronted Arbery, according to the report.

Recently released video supports this account.

A struggle ensued for possession of the gun.

McMichael fired the shotgun three times.

Arbery, 25, stumbled to the street after the third shot and died on the scene.

Gregory McMichael told police he saw Arbery running down the street and suspected him of burglary. He said he went inside the home and called to his son, Travis.

Gregory McMichael grabbed a .357 caliber handgun and Travis McMichael took the shotgun, according to the police report. They hopped in a pickup truck and pursued Arbery, the report said.

The first 911 caller told the dispatcher at 1:09 p.m. that Arbery had stepped inside an open home under construction, then stepped back out and started running down the road, according to 911 tapes.

A second 911 caller at 1:14 p.m.: “There’s a black male running down the road,” according to 911 tapes.

In a short statement released at 10:20 p.m. Tuesday, the GBI said only that it is investigating the shooting at the request of DA Durden.

Arbery’s parents held a video press conference Wednesday morning with their respective lawyers, who called for the immediate arrests of the McMichael men, as well as one other man who they say played a role in the shooting. Attorneys Lee Merritt and Benjamin Crump also suggested the case would be better served on the federal level and treated as a hate crime.




https://thebrunswicknews.com/news/local_news/gbi-now-investigating-shooting-death-of-ahmaud-arbery/article_29b78984-a9ae-552a-90ac-6386052d8440.html
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You didn't have an option for murder. Further I would say all crime is hate crime.

But if she pursued the guy then clearly it's murder not self-defense.

If you're in fear of life or limb you do not chase down the source of that fear. if the person threatening you flees the threat is over.

based on what was presented here and I don't know if that's the totality of the circumstances this is murder.
 
IQ=64 said:
Become? Sorry but white america supports these people and their false stats of Black Americans. When you vote republican this is what you support.
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Weren't RATS in charge of the Jim Crow south when lynchings were common, Sugar Baby?
 
volsrock said:
The black man ran around the front of the truck and bull charged the man on the OTHER SIDE of the truck and started swinging and trying to get the gun...he could have run away towards the house screaming for help

You charge a cop that has a gun trying to get it YOU WILL BE SHOT!!!


SELF DEFENSE !!!
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So this was a cop executing his duty? Then he has an obligation to pursue. even if he is off duty he is still a police officer and he still has a duty to pursue.

If that's the case then this isn't murder it is self-defense.
 
christiefan915 said:
What's the difference between "trying to wrestle the shotgun from the owner" and trying to disarm someone who is threatening to shoot you?
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Who was "threatening to shoot" anyone before the deceased attacked the man with the shotgun?

I'll understand if you don't know, of course.
 
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