And like that, America's history is scrubbed

Maybe have defaced inscriptions and insert, "this despicable traitor who lost in a war against America is now a hero to the most ignorant racist scum in America today."
 
LV426 said:
The statue is a part of history, or Lee?

The statue's role in history is the further suppression and intimidation of black people post-Civil War.

Lee's role in history is the loser of the war.

How do the statues teach Lee's role in history?
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Both represent the History of The Us... It can't be dismissed. It can't be covered up... It happened. Imo, the purpose of history(good or bad) is to not repeat the things people have done but to learn from their mistakes and make actions better.
 
LV426 said:
Comparing MLK to Lee is peak Conservatism.
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Outrage over the comparison is just you throwing another tantrum. Try actually THINKING. :awesome:

LV426 said:
How is MLK a loser? Because he was murdered? How is that the same as Lee losing a war?
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You've literally answered your own question here. If I say 2 + 2 = 5, and you claim that it's actually 4, and I respond by punching you in the face and winning a physical fight, according to you, that makes you a "loser" not worthy of any kind of recognition for any part of your life, and anyone who TRIES to recognize you for any part of your life must be automatically giving you a participation trophy. MLK and Robert E. Lee are both "losers" not worthy of any acknowledgement, accoding to your logic.

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Micawber said:
Maybe have defaced inscriptions and insert, "this despicable traitor who lost in a war against America is now a hero to the most ignorant racist scum in America today."
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Sounds like the perfect inscription for a statue to Antifa and their Democrat terror-supporters in Seattle. :dunno:
 
Steven VanderMolen said:
The only thing with ANY intelligence or logic you have posted today on this thread. Nicely done.
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Shame you can't be honest. You are squarely in the "it's a scared relic because it is in statue form, nobody can ever remove them" camp.

Some good cause has been shown not to venerate these particular individuals with statues. I don't believe that argument has been successfully met.
Applying my notion with which you claim to agree, the case for removal is greater than the case for keeping them up.

That's why I don't believe you. You agree with the southern cause, and identify with it. That is why you want to maintain the statues at issue.
 
Micawber said:
Shame you can't be honest. You are squarely in the "it's a scared relic because it is in statue form, nobody can ever remove them" camp.

Some good cause has been shown not to venerate these particular individuals with statues. I don't believe that argument has been successfully met.
Applying my notion with which you claim to agree, the case for removal is greater than the case for keeping them up.
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:palm:
 
Southern Chicken said:
Both represent the History of The Us... It can't be dismissed. It can't be covered up... It happened. Imo, the purpose of history(good or bad) is to not repeat the things people have done but to learn from their mistakes and make actions better.
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But how does the statue represent any history?

How does the statue help us learn from our mistakes?
 
Arminius said:
You've literally answered your own question here. If I say 2 + 2 = 5, and you claim that it's actually 4, and I respond by punching you in the face and winning a physical fight, according to you, that makes you a "loser" not worthy of any kind of recognition for any part of your life, and anyone who TRIES to recognize you for any part of your life must be automatically giving you a participation trophy. MLK and Robert E. Lee are both "losers" not worthy of any acknowledgement, accoding to your logic.
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So if the statue is meant to recognize Lee for other parts of his life, why is he depicted wearing his Civil War uniform in all of them?
 
Southern Chicken said:
Both represent the History of The Us... It can't be dismissed. It can't be covered up... It happened. Imo, the purpose of history(good or bad) is to not repeat the things people have done but to learn from their mistakes and make actions better.
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I asked earlier in the thread, but do you think Germans were wrong to get rid of Nazi symbols on buildings?
 
Cypress said:
99 percent of right wing deplorables who claim they are only acting in defense of protecting historical knowledge, have never actually even read a book about Robert E Lee, have never taken a college level course on the Confereracy, and have thus shown through their actions this is not really about honoring historical education and knowledge.

As for me, I have video classes about Robert E Lee, the history of the American South, the history of the Civil War on my streaming video watch list -- because I actually believe studying the Confereracy and the Confederate leadership is important to reflect on, and holds lessons for the erudite person.
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PBS also has a good documentary series about the american reconstruction after the civil war. white supremacy aint no joke.
 
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