The War on Christians Continues...

Let me clear up several things for the deliberately obtuse.

Buddhism is sometimes a religion and other times not.

Islam is always a religion, there is never a time that it does not teach about the supernatural, unlike Buddhism the largest group of which (Theravada Buddhism) does not teach about any supernatural phenomena.

Using your definition posted earlier, Buddhism is, at times, "not a religion" because it doesn't cover the points it says are needed to be one.

the points who says are needed to be a religion?
 
the points who says are needed to be a religion?
Your link. And your assertion, "Any set of beliefs that assert supernatural moral machinery and a unprovable hierarchy of reincarnation is a religion, even if a major figure is not a "god" per se."

You know, that inconvenient stuff.
 
Any set of beliefs that assert supernatural moral machinery and a unprovable hierarchy of reincarnation is a religion, even if a major figure is not a "god" per se.

Ahh.....I see now. I was wondering what this new movement was. Was it religious or political? I see now that it is indeed religious. My only question is will they call it "Obamaism?" ;)
 
Your link. And your assertion, "Any set of beliefs that assert supernatural moral machinery and a unprovable hierarchy of reincarnation is a religion, even if a major figure is not a "god" per se."


You know, that inconvenient stuff.

I think it either is or is not a religion depending on how one defines religion. So it's dependant on the view of individual i guess. In that case, my sock is my god, my sock is my religion and you better respect that!
 
I think it either is or is not a religion depending on how one defines religion. So it's dependant on the view of individual i guess. In that case, my sock is my god, my sock is my religion and you better respect that!
I think it is more complicated then you want it to be so you try to fit the square peg into a round hole.

He thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts...

It's okay.

I still think that (as I've said probably three times on this thread alone now), yes, to be equal if the zoo is public there shouldn't be Buddhist symbols in it. But an even better solution, (IMNSHO) would be inclusion rather than exclusion from the public arena. If one religion is allowed (should be) then all should be.

If Buddhists were more insane they'd be upset about the minimalizing of their beliefs into decorative good luck dolls. But they don't take themselves all that seriously...

;)
 
I think it is more complicated then you want it to be so you try to fit the square peg into a round hole.

He thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts...

It's okay.

I still think that (as I've said probably three times on this thread alone now), yes, to be equal if the zoo is public there shouldn't be Buddhists symbols in it. But an even better solution would be inclusion rather than exclusion from the public arena. If one religion is allowed (should be) then all should be.


No. You're making it complicated.

Buddhism's a religion. it's taught in the religion department of colleges. It's often put in a list of world religions.
 
No. You're making it complicated.

Buddhism's a religion. it's taught in the religion department of colleges. It's often put in a list of world religions.
I am not. You keep insisting I "disagree" in some important fashion because I describe to you different beliefs in Buddhism.

I try to expand the conversation you insist it must be solely about your simplistic idea.

We already agreed on the one thing you keep insisting we disagree on:

Religious symbols, in the matter of equality, should be removed if the zoo is indeed supported by public funds.

(Of course, I do it with the addendum, that it is my opinion that the US would be better served with inclusionary practice rather than exclusionary).
 
No. You're making it complicated.

Buddhism's a religion. it's taught in the religion department of colleges. It's often put in a list of world religions.
Even in those places, if you actually take the classes, they will tell you that it is not always a religion because it does not always have those things you listed that make "religions".

You again attempt to make a square peg fit the round hole, and ignore your own definition of things to attempt to get somebody else to be "wrong" about something we agreed on. It's insane.

It is more than one thing.
 
I am not. You keep insisting I "disagree" in some important fashion because I describe to you different beliefs in Buddhism.

I try to expand the conversation you insist it must be solely about your simplistic idea.

We already agreed on the one thing you keep insisting we disagree on:

Religious symbols, in the matter of equality, should be removed if the zoo is indeed supported by public funds.

(Of course, I do it with the addendum, that it is my opinion that the US would be better served with inclusionary practice rather than exclusionary).

Different beliefs in buddhism? It's still a religion.
 
Different beliefs in buddhism? It's still a religion.
Not in every case, according to your (provided earlier in the thread) definition and my religion and philosophies teacher in college.

You are deliberately being obtuse because you want to insist that I disagreed with you somewhere on whether the statues should be removed if the zoo was funded publicly.

Hint for the disingenuous: I didn't.
 
Not in every case, according to your (provided earlier in the thread) definition and my religion and philosophies teacher in college.

You are deliberately being obtuse because you want to insist that I disagreed with you somewhere on whether the statues should be removed if the zoo was funded publicly.

Hint for the disingenuous: I didn't.

Insist you disagreed? I think you want to define it as "not a religion", to hide the anti-christian bias of our society.
 
Insist you disagreed? I think you want to define it as "not a religion", to hide the anti-christian bias of our society.
You have the habit of trying to put beliefs onto me that do not exist in ways that are just plain stupid. Instead of reading what I say you just go off on weird tangents that are directly opposite of what I said earlier in the thread. Again, it is because you want to find disagreement so bad you are willing to ignore direct evidence to support your own inane decrees of how I think.

I want to include Christianity and other religions in the public sector rather than attempt to exclude all religions form the public sector because I want to support some sort of anti-religious (specifically Christian) societal norm? There is no other way to describe that inane assumption of my opinion other than just flat out stupid.


Total and complete rubbish. It's flat out illogical and directly shows you have not one comprehending brain cell in your head when you read a post from somebody you think you "know".
 
You have the habit of trying to put beliefs onto me that do not exist in ways that are just plain stupid. Instead of reading what I say you just go off on weird tangents that are directly opposite of what I said earlier in the thread. Again, it is because you want to find disagreement so bad you are willing to ignore direct evidence to support your own inane decrees of how I think.

I want to include Christianity and other religions in the public sector rather than attempt to exclude all religions form the public sector because I want to support some sort of anti-religious societal norm?

Rubbish. It's flat out illogical and directly shows you have not one comprehending brain cell in your head when you read a post from somebody you think you "know".


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