LMAO, Now the righties are complaining that no bible was used at 2nd swearing in

Southern Man said:
So the ones that support abortion are liars too. *shrug*

Nothing un-Christian about supporting wars or capital punishment.
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So those who believe that two joined cells do not constitute independent life, are lying about their religious beliefs?

Those who believe that the victim of rape should not be required by law to carry the results of that rape to term are lying about their religious beliefs?

Those who believe that the life of the mother is more important than the life of an undeveloped embryo are lying about their religious beliefs?




Its funny that you claim to know what people believe, and its based solely on what you believe.
 
Solitary said:
So those who believe that two joined cells do not constitute independent life, are lying about their religious beliefs?

Those who believe that the victim of rape should not be required by law to carry the results of that rape to term are lying about their religious beliefs?

Those who believe that the life of the mother is more important than the life of an undeveloped embryo are lying about their religious beliefs?




Its funny that you claim to know what people believe, and its based solely on what you believe.
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Yes, yes, and yes. I'm not claiming to know what people believe.
 
Southern Man said:
Interesting slant that prosecuting a war and administering justice are "selective killings". Wow.
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Prosecuting a war is very much against christian morality. You are actively killing other humans.

And as for the justice, are you advocating "an eye for an eye"?
 
Southern Man said:
I guess it only mattered for the crowds.
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Oh no, you mean a politician did something only for the crowd???

Say it ain't so!!!




LMAO

Or it could be that the bible was taken back to where it belongs and the second swearing in was done without a lot of hoopla.
 
Southern Man said:
Yes, yes, and yes. I'm not claiming to know what people believe.
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You claim that those who support abortion are liars.

Now, since the only things that make up that support are their beliefs in when life begins and their religious beliefs, you are most certainly claiming to know what they believe.

Or are you claiming that they are lying when they say what they believe concerning when life begins? And that would be rather ridiculous.

If you are claiming that they are lying about their beliefs, then you are certainly claiming to know what they believe.
 
Solitary said:
Prosecuting a war is very much against christian morality. You are actively killing other humans...
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Prove it.

Solitary said:
Oh no, you mean a politician did something only for the crowd???...

LMAO

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And I thought Obama was serious about change. You know with all the LMAO-ing that you do its a wonder that you have any ass left.

Solitary said:
You claim that those who support abortion are liars.

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Yes, since Christianity forbids the taking on an innocent human life. Its actually a very simple concept.
 
Southern Man said:
Prove it.



And I thought Obama was serious about change. You know with all the LMAO-ing that you do its a wonder that you have any ass left.

Yes, since Christianity forbids the taking on an innocent human life. Its actually a very simple concept.
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And yet, killing people in a war (by dropping bombs from aircraft or firing missiles ect ect) is completely different??


Prove it? Please explain how dropping bombs and firing missiles is not killing innocent humans? Please explain how capital punishment is never killing innocent humans?
 
Solitary said:
And yet, killing people in a war (by dropping bombs from aircraft or firing missiles ect ect) is completely different??


Prove it? Please explain how dropping bombs and firing missiles is not killing innocent humans? Please explain how capital punishment is never killing innocent humans?
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You first.
 
Southern Man said:
You first.
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Ummm

Lets retrace our argument. You claim that people who back abortion are not christians. And you claim "Nothing un-Christian about supporting wars or capital punishment".

So it is YOUR position that there is a difference between killing people in wars and killing a unviable fetus.

So your "you first" dodge is a bit odd, wouldn't you say?
 
Solitary said:
Ummm

Lets retrace our argument. You claim that people who back abortion are not christians. And you claim "Nothing un-Christian about supporting wars or capital punishment".

So it is YOUR position that there is a difference between killing people in wars and killing a unviable fetus.

So your "you first" dodge is a bit odd, wouldn't you say?
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war is waged by mutual consent of the parties based on their actions.....

death penalty is a self imposed waiver of rights by the party committing murder...

killing the unborn.....well i guess that is for the benefit of the mother...
 
ManU1959 said:
war is waged by mutual consent of the parties based on their actions.....

death penalty is a self imposed waiver of rights by the party committing murder...

killing the unborn.....well i guess that is for the benefit of the mother...
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War is waged by the leaders, the soldiers have no choice. And the innocent civilians that always end up dying made absolutely NO choice to be involved.

The death penalty is indeed a self imposed waiver of rights by the party committing murder. And if you can tell me that all of the christians who support capital punishment are absolutely sure that innocents never get executed, your argument is valid. But, since I know that is not true, the same christians are aware that some innocents die, even if it is a small number.

The victim of rape did not choose to get pregnant.

In cases where the life of the mother is at stake, the choice must be made, and having legislators make that choice is completely wrong. They will end up back on their Terri Schiavo soapbox.
 
Solitary said:
And yet, killing people in a war (by dropping bombs from aircraft or firing missiles ect ect) is completely different??


Prove it? Please explain how dropping bombs and firing missiles is not killing innocent humans? Please explain how capital punishment is never killing innocent humans?
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Actually, you stated: "Prosecuting a war is very much against christian morality. You are actively killing other humans..." and I asked you to prove that. Now you're cowering. :)
 
Solitary said:
War is waged by the leaders, the soldiers have no choice. And the innocent civilians that always end up dying made absolutely NO choice to be involved.

The death penalty is indeed a self imposed waiver of rights by the party committing murder. And if you can tell me that all of the christians who support capital punishment are absolutely sure that innocents never get executed, your argument is valid. But, since I know that is not true, the same christians are aware that some innocents die, even if it is a small number.

The victim of rape did not choose to get pregnant.

In cases where the life of the mother is at stake, the choice must be made, and having legislators make that choice is completely wrong. They will end up back on their Terri Schiavo soapbox.
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soilders have choices....civilians have choices as well.....they can revoult like the french underground did or comply like the vichey....

certainty about an innocent being executed is a price that must be paid .....

just because it is rape or mother health is at risk doesn't make me alter my statement.....
 
Southern Man said:
Actually, you stated: "Prosecuting a war is very much against christian morality. You are actively killing other humans..." and I asked you to prove that. Now you're cowering. :)
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There has never been a war (especially in recent history) in which innocent civilians were not killed. Its called collatoral damage. And all who participate are participating in the killing of innocent humans. There is no denying this.

Also, if soldiers are drafted, they are unwilling participants in the war. And can, therefore, be considered innocents.

When we drop bombs we kill people who are not soldiers. We kill innocents.




Clear enough for you?
 
ManU1959 said:
soilders have choices....civilians have choices as well.....they can revoult like the french underground did or comply like the vichey....

certainty about an innocent being executed is a price that must be paid .....

just because it is rape or mother health is at risk doesn't make me alter my statement.....
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The civilians have no choices when the bombs blow them up. That is killing an innocent. You can try and tapdance around it, but it is still killing an innocent.

Funny, you claim that killing an innocent by execution is a price that must be paid. But aborting a baby to save the mother's life or aborting the results of a rape is not a price that must be paid?

Wars kill innocents.

Capital punishment kills innocents.

Abortion kills innocents.





And yet you claim supporting one means you cannot be a christian, and the other two are perfectly fine for christians to support.
 
Solitary said:
The civilians have no choices when the bombs blow them up. That is killing an innocent. You can try and tapdance around it, but it is still killing an innocent.
Funny, you claim that killing an innocent by execution is a price that must be paid. But aborting a baby to save the mother's life or aborting the results of a rape is not a price that must be paid?
Wars kill innocents.
Capital punishment kills innocents.
Abortion kills innocents.
And yet you claim supporting one means you cannot be a christian, and the other two are perfectly fine for christians to support.
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no one in a waring nation is innocent.....they should either be fighting with their country or against it...

if you have capital punishment it is possible an innocent man will be killed.....when was the last innocent man killed......

never said what you claim i did about abortion....or christianity......

how about you....you chrsitian or not....abortion ....war....death penalty....

you seem to have it all sorted.....spill.....
 
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