HR 45, Gun control licensing and registration...

Dungheap said:
Awesome. I've always been enticed to just put you on ignore and every once in a while I am rewarded for not doing so.
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Your every idiotic contribution to this thread was thrown back into your face. At least man up, and admit what an ignorant douchebag you are.
 
leaningright said:
I love muzzleloading season. I have killed over 30 deer with a muzzleloader. I haven't hunted a rifle season here in about 5 years. I would hate to be restricted to a shot gun in rifle season though. Like Damo, we have hills here to stop the travel of the bullet........but then in the western part of the state we have the plains too. I do a lot of varmit hunting with a 223. I wouldn't like that to be taken away.
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Same here in Ohio. Eastern part of the state is piedmont and very hilly. West part of state is the east end of the corn belt and is flat to rolling.

The real big difference here is the greater population density. Of both White Tails and people. But it's not just the safety aspect. It's just considered unsportsmanlike to hunt deer, and most anything else, with high powered rifles up here. That's reserved for critters that get very big, are very small or are very difficult to approach. I don't think I'd want to hunt a moose or a grizzly bear with a 0.45 caliber Hawkins and it would probably be nigh unto impossible to get close enough with one to tag a Big Horn sheep, and when you consider we don't have to many of them up here in Ohio, I don't see much use for high powered rifles for hunting, sept for some of the small caliber ones for varmints, but, like I said earlier, can't use them for anything else up here.

I wouldn't want either of them taken away from me.
 
Mottleydude said:
Not in Ohio it's not. First, aint to much of a challenge shooting white tailed deer in Ohio. It's slightly more difficult than shooting dairy cows. Primitive weapons ups the skill level required. So up here hunting deer with high powered rifles is considered whimpy, at worst (not to mention illegal) and is unsportsmanlike at best. I'd be embarrassed to hunt something like White Tails with either of those weapons. Not good choices at all.

Second, there two many idiots with lots of fire power and damned precious hunting skills who think that gun makes them Simon Kenton. Last thing we need to do here is turn them lose during deer season with high powered rifles when you can practically shoot them with slingshots.

Do you have a link to that? I've known plenty of gun nuts who vote Republican cause the NRA told em democrats was a gonna take thar guns away.
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I will say that I have never hunted while in Ohio but from the looks of things it must be kind of like hunting in western OK. But the deer here are somewhat harder to shoot than cows......very much harder even. :) Before I could afford the 30-30 I bought when I was 16, I had to use slugs in my shotgun. I would hate to have to go back to that. I can sympathize with your people with poor hunting skills. Unfortunately we all have to deal with them.

One thing I noticed in KY around my father-in-law's place is that there are so many houses in close proximity to where people hunt. I am scared to shoot a squirrel with a 22 long rifle (so I use 22 shorts) and would definitely not want to hunt with a high powered rifle with a range of 3 1/2 to 5 miles. Another reason I am glad I live where I do....and likely will never leave.
 
Mottleydude said:
By the way...those aint hills in Colorado....them be mountains. The Malta Wall is a hill.
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LOL. I remember watching those little flatland deer walking around campus when I was visiting. You could have killed them with a rock and a little muscle. It wouldn't have even been called "hunting".
 
Damocles said:
LOL. I remember watching those little flatland deer walking around campus when I was visiting. You could have killed them with a rock and a little muscle. It wouldn't have even been called "hunting".
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Well I know this is a side topic to the gun issue but you do see my point. Not much challenge to hunting Deer in Ohio with a high powered rifle.

BTW, those weren't the "little" flat land deer you saw. Those were hill deers. There just as abundant on the flat west side of the state and there some of the largest White Tails in North America. Hard to beat Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois and Wisconsin for white tail deer hunting. The best and the biggest are probably in west Ohio, Indiana and east Illinois.

Let me put it this way. Bagging a 12 pt deer in North Carolina or Alabama is a big deal. It's nothing special in Western Ohio. I turn my nose up at trophy deers anyways. Taste like shit. Give me a corn fed button buck or a 2 year old doe any time! Less meat sure, but a lot better taste. Two does will fill up a freezer and it's not to hard these days to get a 2 limit antlerless permit. Some big ole buck is only good for the back straps and trail sausage.
 
Mottleydude said:
Well I know this is a side topic to the gun issue but you do see my point. Not much challenge to hunting Deer in Ohio with a high powered rifle.

BTW, those weren't the "little" flat land deer you saw. Those were hill deers. There just as abundant on the flat west side of the state and there some of the largest White Tails in North America. Hard to beat Ohio, Michigan, Indiana, Illinois and Wisconsin for white tail deer hunting. The best and the biggest are probably in west Ohio, Indiana and east Illinois.

Let me put it this way. Bagging a 12 pt deer in North Carolina or Alabama is a big deal. It's nothing special in Western Ohio. I turn my nose up at trophy deers anyways. Taste like shit. Give me a corn fed button buck or a 2 year old doe any time! Less meat sure, but a lot better taste. Two does will fill up a freezer and it's not to hard these days to get a 2 limit antlerless permit. Some big ole buck is only good for the back straps and trail sausage.
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I like corn fed antelope. It's tasty and a bit more fun to hunt than the deer in our area. The farmers in the area are happy to get rid of them too and will often let you onto their property to fill your quota.
 
Mottleydude said:
Let me put it this way. Bagging a 12 pt deer in North Carolina or Alabama is a big deal. It's nothing special in Western Ohio. I turn my nose up at trophy deers anyways. Taste like shit. Give me a corn fed button buck or a 2 year old doe any time! Less meat sure, but a lot better taste. Two does will fill up a freezer and it's not to hard these days to get a 2 limit antlerless permit. Some big ole buck is only good for the back straps and trail sausage.
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Same here. When given the choice of two or more bucks, which has only happened a couple of times, I will always choose the smaller of the two. Usually much better eating, which is what I hunt for. You can't boil those horns long enought to make them tender.
 
Gun nut pain gives me so much sweet, sweet pleasure. The Dems should expand it. I want gun nuts to hurt as much as possible. I want to taste the sweet taste of their tears every time a child is saved by this bill.
 
Damocles said:
I like corn fed antelope. It's tasty and a bit more fun to hunt than the deer in our area. The farmers in the area are happy to get rid of them too and will often let you onto their property to fill your quota.
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Now I can see where having a high powered rifle would be good for antelope. You might have to take a running shot from 300 yards at an animal running 40+ mph. You'd have to be a remarkable shot to hit something like that with a muzzle loader.
 
Mottleydude said:
Now I can see where having a high powered rifle would be good for antelope. You might have to take a running shot from 300 yards at an animal running 40+ mph. You'd have to be a remarkable shot to hit something like that with a muzzle loader.
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just pretend it's watermark. you'll dead center it every time. I know I would.
 
leaningright said:
Same here. When given the choice of two or more bucks, which has only happened a couple of times, I will always choose the smaller of the two. Usually much better eating, which is what I hunt for. You can't boil those horns long enought to make them tender.
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LOL You Got That Right! LOL:clink:
 
Mottleydude said:
Now I can see where having a high powered rifle would be good for antelope. You might have to take a running shot from 300 yards at an animal running 40+ mph. You'd have to be a remarkable shot to hit something like that with a muzzle loader.
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You also have to be carefully hidden, they have massive distance vision and will become scarce if you aren't smart.
 
Mottleydude said:
That won't work here in Ohio.....they give the deer a sporting chance here. No high powered rifles allowed. You have primitive weapon season (muzzle loaders and Bows) and shot gun season.

Besides, I love the retro aspect of muzzle loaders.
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Some of the muzzleloaders are retro. But much of what is carried out in the field now are thoroughly modern firearms.

I have two friends who took deer with muzzleloaders this season. One paced it off at a little over 150 yards, and the other was a little over 100 yards. That is hardly primitive.
 
Solitary said:
Some of the muzzleloaders are retro. But much of what is carried out in the field now are thoroughly modern firearms.

I have two friends who took deer with muzzleloaders this season. One paced it off at a little over 150 yards, and the other was a little over 100 yards. That is hardly primitive.
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I used to own a Kentucky long rifle. .33 caliber I used to hit stuff, on the move, at 100 yards. Mostly squirels. It was a great cross over gun. I could shoot rabbit, wood chuck, squirrel with accuracy and it had enough power to drop a deer, with a good shot, at 100 - 150 yards. It was uncany good in thick brush, dense woods. I can't say why but I had more comfort shooting the gun in the woods then any gun I ever fired. My .45 caliber hawkins could hit a dear, with a clear view, well in excess of 150 years by using miniballs.

I know what you mean about modern muzzleloaders. Primitive in name only. But I think that defeats the purpose. Using an old Kentucky Long Rifle or a Compound Bow just adds to the challenge and romance factor hunting.

I think we done hijacked this thread.
 
Mottleydude said:
I used to own a Kentucky long rifle. .33 caliber I used to hit stuff, on the move, at 100 yards. Mostly squirels. It was a great cross over gun. I could shoot rabbit, wood chuck, squirrel with accuracy and it had enough power to drop a deer, with a good shot, at 100 - 150 yards. It was uncany good in thick brush, dense woods. I can't say why but I had more comfort shooting the gun in the woods then any gun I ever fired. My .45 caliber hawkins could hit a dear, with a clear view, well in excess of 150 years by using miniballs.

I know what you mean about modern muzzleloaders. Primitive in name only. But I think that defeats the purpose. Using an old Kentucky Long Rifle or a Compound Bow just adds to the challenge and romance factor hunting.

I think we done hijacked this thread.
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Yeah, but we hijacked it in a manly, gun-shooting sorta way. So thats fine.

I hunt deer, but have no interest in trophy bucks. I'll take a small buck or does everytime. The meat is much tastier.

As for what is comfortable in the woods, I am very fond of my "hog gun". Its a Marlin lever action 45-70. Even with the new style pointed bullets, I would not trusted it at any long ranges. But Its one of my favorite guns. Its carries well, points great, and knocks whatever I hit flat down.
 
Watermark said:
Gun nut pain gives me so much sweet, sweet pleasure. The Dems should expand it. I want gun nuts to hurt as much as possible. I want to taste the sweet taste of their tears every time a child is saved by this bill.
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HOORAY FOR NAZISM! DOWN WITH FREEDOM! LIBERTY SUCKS!




Btw, I have no immediate plans to purchase my first gun. I just have this odd addiction to liberty. How was the detox experience when you went leftist? Any convulsions or anything like that?
 
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