Somebody name one

Walt said:
Yes, there is. Extreme libertarians are anarchists.
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5 Bonus Points for you. You account is being credited as I write this.

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We tend to view the political spectrum as a line with Marxism and oligarchies to the left and personal liberty as you go to the right. In reality it is a circle and if you go far enough to the extreme left (Marxist Anarchists) and if you go far enough to the extreme right (Extreme Libertarians) ... you end up with the same political ideology that wants no government, no police, no military, no fiat currency, no laws, etc ...

Yes, Libertarians are a broad category. On the left end they absolutely see the need for a government, of a free republic, that enforces the liberty of all. On the right end, the "extreme" Libertarians view any external authority as an impingement upon individual liberty.

Of course, if you ask Marxist Anarchists and Extreme Libertarians what they think of each other, they will speak in terms of the other as viscious space aliens who want to destroy humanity and the planet like the antagonists of the movie Independence Day. If you point out that they are all morons because they all want exactly the same thing, they dive deep into cognitive dissonance and EVADE your points. The only difference between the two camps is that Marxist Anarchists are uneducated intellectual cowards who are happy to resort to mob violence and Marxist "revolution" to get what they want. Extreme Libertarians are otherwise pretty smart but naively believe that mastery of economics is sufficient to enable them to reach their goals.

Anyway, great point. Well done.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Kind of like TDS-addled leftists' unnatural anger towards Trump, NordSperg?

Just remember people: Leftists will lie, cheat, steal...whatever to get into power, they have no plans of doing anything for you at all.

It's all about the power for them.
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Compared to your TBS? Trump is the thief in chief. You have it backwards.
 
StoneByStone said:
They support Trump, which at the very least means they support Fascism, and they use political violence, which is a common Fascist trope.
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That's quite the string of chain assumptions.

Actually, they just fight back against the Democrat-supported political violence of ANTIFA.

Not like most Americans would, because that would be a slaughter.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Kind of like TDS-addled leftists' unnatural anger towards Trump, NordSperg?

Just remember people: Leftists will lie, cheat, steal...whatever to get into power, they have no plans of doing anything for you at all.

It's all about the power for them.
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And in your fantasy world where truth is an abstract ideology for fools, BoogaLoo does not exist.
 
IBDaMann said:
We tend to view the political spectrum as a line with Marxism and oligarchies to the left and personal liberty as you go to the right. In reality it is a circle and if you go far enough to the extreme left (Marxist Anarchists) and if you go far enough to the extreme right (Extreme Libertarians) ... you end up with the same political ideology that wants no government, no police, no military, no fiat currency, no laws, etc ...
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You would think that Communist Anarchists would have gotten power with their several successful revolutions, but repeatedly they proved they could win a rebellion, but not establish a government. Either more moderate leaders, or Statist Communists would establish the government after the revolution. It never went well for the Communist Anarchists in the long run. Russia is a good example, where they won four revolutions in a row, and then were all killed by Stalin during the peace.

It should not surprise us when we think of it. Someone who opposes government will never be able to establish a government.

Capitalist Anarchists have been less successful in revolution, but more successful in establishing limited order. In situations where there is no government(pirate towns, frontier towns, countries with collapsing governments), sometimes Capitalist Anarchists were able to establish some form of system without government. It is questionable whether they were intentional Capitalist Anarchists, or just accidental Capitalist Anarchists.

Even then, it usually collapses sooner or later. Whether the government extends itself out to the frontier, the navy destroys the pirate town, or just thugs start stealing everything they can, it falls apart sooner or later.

There is some hope that technology will change that... But I have to ask whether it will be for the best. Children need to be supported until they can be productive. Some will be supported by their parents, but some should be supported by the society. This gives everyone a chance.

And beyond that, there is an efficiency to doing some things with a government. Roads are cheaper if we do it as a society, as is water pipes.

And government helps establish some basic order. The strong should not be allowed to steal from the weak. The thugs that overthrow many capitalist anarchy "utopias" realize that they can pressure the weak, because the weak have not banded together in a government.

We have things really good here, and I question why we would want to change everything. Moderate change is necessary and wanted, but why throw away everything?
 
Matt Dillon said:
That's quite the string of chain assumptions.

Actually, they just fight back against the Democrat-supported political violence of ANTIFA.

Not like most Americans would, because that would be a slaughter.
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Like the rest of the lies yo rely on, Antifa does not exist except as an ideology opposed by freedom haters like you. In the meantime, White Supremacy, White Nationalism, The KKK, The Proud Boys, Patriots Prayer, and others, all have Founders, proposed agendas, and liars like you, and trump, to promote their cause.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Kind of like TDS-addled leftists' unnatural anger towards Trump, NordSperg?

Just remember people: Leftists will lie, cheat, steal...whatever to get into power, they have no plans of doing anything for you at all.

It's all about the power for them.
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Your low IQ and opioid addiction has you delusional
 
Old Trapper said:
Antifa does not exist except as an ideology opposed by freedom haters like you.
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Nope. ANTIFA is a Marxist Anarchist organization with cowardly leaders who don't show their faces to avoid the death penalty. ANTIFA is a direct clone of Sendero Luminoso.

Old Trapper said:
In the meantime, White Supremacy, White Nationalism, The KKK, The Proud Boys, Patriots Prayer, and others, all have Founders, proposed agendas, and liars like you, and trump, to promote their cause.
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You neglected to list Black Lives Matter, Nation of Islam, Urban League, UnidosUS, National Organization of Women, and various other hate groups that actually would have made for better examples.

By the way, you have a mistaken impression of what socialism is. It does not mean "public," "commonwealth" or "government funded." None of the examples you list are socialism.

Enjoy.
 
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