Biden to eliminate oil and gas by 2035
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T. A. Gardner
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BartenderElite
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They should stop using any of the following too:
It's only fair they do like hard core vegans who won't wear leather, etc....
Are you guys going to start adopting kids, or working the border?
T. A. Gardner
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Way to change the subject!
BartenderElite
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Same concept.
They should stop using any of the following too:
It's only fair they do like hard core vegans who won't wear leather, etc....
You and I both know they won't stop using those things.
When using transportation methods that involve oil and gas, AOC the ring leader of the Green New Deal, said "living in the world as it is isn't an argument against working towards a better future."
Wouldn't someone that is pushing what she pushes be working to the fullest extent she can not just giving lip service to the cause?
Not at all.
I raised my kids. I didn't give them away because I didn't want them.
OMG. running out of oil isn't the issue or problem. not even AOC makes such absurd claims . For the LW it's carbon emmissions -the holy grail of goofball enviornmentalists
Harm to Wildlife
In order to provide a significant amount of electrical energy, solar farms require large tracts of land. Western states like California have deserts with abundant space and sunshine, but these areas are also natural habitats that support wildlife. For example, environmental reports underestimated the number of desert tortoises that would be displaced by the Ivanpah Solar Generating System in California’s Mojave Desert. The same solar farm also came under scrutiny when an increasing number of bird deaths were reported on its premises. Many of their wings had been melted or burned off by heat from the solar farm’s mirrors.
Habitat Degradation
The impact that solar farms have on individual species can send ripples throughout entire ecosystems. For example, animals like burrowing owls in California’s Mojave Desert rely on burrows dug by desert tortoises for shelter (See Reference 4). When solar farms harm or remove species within a habitat, they also remove the valuable ecosystem services that they provide to the habitat. The habitat becomes less livable for plants and wildlife that have adapted to its specific conditions.
https://sciencing.com/effects-solar-power-farms-environment-13547.html
In order to provide a significant amount of electrical energy, solar farms require large tracts of land. Western states like California have deserts with abundant space and sunshine, but these areas are also natural habitats that support wildlife. For example, environmental reports underestimated the number of desert tortoises that would be displaced by the Ivanpah Solar Generating System in California’s Mojave Desert. The same solar farm also came under scrutiny when an increasing number of bird deaths were reported on its premises. Many of their wings had been melted or burned off by heat from the solar farm’s mirrors.
Habitat Degradation
The impact that solar farms have on individual species can send ripples throughout entire ecosystems. For example, animals like burrowing owls in California’s Mojave Desert rely on burrows dug by desert tortoises for shelter (See Reference 4). When solar farms harm or remove species within a habitat, they also remove the valuable ecosystem services that they provide to the habitat. The habitat becomes less livable for plants and wildlife that have adapted to its specific conditions.
https://sciencing.com/effects-solar-power-farms-environment-13547.html
BartenderElite
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Not me.
I understand homo sapiens. We're programmed to not react to something until it's a crisis.
We can't do that with fossil fuels. We're not going to have a 3 or 4 decade head's up on when they're going to run out. No one knows.
If it happens in 10-20 years, we're in a big pickle. Transitioning our infrastructure & consumption is a gargantuan, multi-decade task. And that's if we're committed.
fabricating the panels requires caustic chemicals such as sodium hydroxide and hydrofluoric acid, and the process uses water as well as electricity, the production of which emits greenhouse gases. It also creates waste.
5 worth of recyclable material in each solar panel, but it requires $27 to extract the material. Even the glass can't be recycled because it is infused with properties that can not be removed. So, the landfills are seeing an influx of solar panels..
5 worth of recyclable material in each solar panel, but it requires $27 to extract the material. Even the glass can't be recycled because it is infused with properties that can not be removed. So, the landfills are seeing an influx of solar panels..
you really need to understand oil reserves, fracking and extraction techniques.
Absolutely no one of any knowledge is concerned about running out. we easily have a 100 years left.
Plenty of time to transition,without wrecking the economy
BartenderElite
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That's a myth.
Why? So that way you can't continue lying about it, like how you lied about getting an unsolicited mail-in ballot?
The cost to extract that oil is far more than the cost not to.
Every single thing you've said about COVID has been wrong, so why would you be right about any of this?????
You already wrecked the economy...first with your tax cut, and then with your COVID lies.
what "myth"? reserves are at least 50 years at current prices -that's into at least 2070.
If prices go up,it becomes more economically feasible to look for other extractions other then just readily tapable
then there is nat gas. more nat gas energy plants can produce more electricity without oil -
and not increase coal.
There is no hurry on this -transition to other power sources (geothermal/biomass,etc) can be done without spending tens of trillions on shitty sources like panels and wind farms.
Or just get smart and build nuke plants like France!
BartenderElite
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It's 53 years.
That's if consumption stays at current levels.
Think about that one.
Nukes are generationally irresponsible.
T. A. Gardner
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Liar
T. A. Gardner
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Okay, I did. Coal can be turned into oil too. How many years does that add? Making oil from algae. How many more? Your view is myopic.
Do you even have any real concept of how things nuclear work? What about radiation? What types of radioactive particles are there? How much exposure is truly, seriously, dangerous?
You see, your statement is nothing but an off-hand, flippant, remark based on accepting what others of like-mind tell you without any actual knowledge of nuclear energy.