Biden to eliminate oil and gas by 2035

Oil and gas are finite resources.

That is indisputable fact.

If we wait until shortages to start transitioning, it will likely end civilization.

Both oil and natural gas are renewable fuels. See the Fischer-Tropsche process. These conditions exist naturally underground for this chemical reaction. It only takes hours to run. The are not finite resources. You don't get to dictate energy markets. You are not the king.
 
Or pumping out ground water...

https://www.usgs.gov/special-topic/...ce_center_objects=0#qt-science_center_objects

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The funny thing about this idiot with this sign is the bridge he is standing in front of has not suffered any damage. You'd think it would have crumbled and collapsed with all that elevation change going on. Still see a nice barn in the background too. How is it still standing there?
 
you said the faults -implying fault lines.
fissures are intra-plate -they are not "fault". fissures are long, narrow cracks they could be developed by fracking
..faults -noo

If you are too stoopid to recognize the difference between a fissure and a fault line -you really need to #STFU

Fissures may open up due to moisture changes, faults shifting, volcanic activity, erosion, a blown out pipe, or any number of reasons. Fracking is the cracking of rock by use of hydraulic pressure. This happens pretty deep underground, and the water and grit is pumped out of the well after use. It does not create surface fissures.

Fracking is a very old technique, first practiced in China several thousand years ago. It was also used during warfare to fracture concrete bunkers of the enemy during the War of Secession (what most people cal the 'Civil' war). It was first used for drilling in the 1940's.

There is nothing magick about fracking. You pump water (and sometimes sand with it) under high pressure to crack the rock, then pump out the bits of rock, water, and sand. You can safely discharge the residue on the ground. It's just water, sand, and bits of rock. If anything, the biggest problem is water erosion, which can be handled by piping the discharge to a pit.

Drilling with water pressure is not unusual. It is a commonly used technique for putting lines under roadways, sidewalks, and even runways. Pressure washing systems of the insides of drain pipes is now a common technique for clearing them. The equipment is simple and very effective. Air driven moles are now used to lay lines much of the time now, less water demand and a more portable technique. Their navigation equipment is easier to control as well. They won't crack rock like water can, though.
 
Actually, I never claimed to be an "environmentalist" just a promoter of truth. And what makes me "cringe" is when fools do not read what I posted yet feel they know enough to comment on it. And then there is your kind.

What he calls an 'environmentalist' is actually just a fundamentalist from the Church of Green.

In a sense, we are all environmentalists. We all seek to improve our environment. We build houses and other buildings, we plant trees and gardens, we farm almost all of our wood for our houses, buildings, paper, and other useful things that trees provide, we plant other crops to better feed ourselves, we build better instruments and technologies to process things like raw sewage and industrial wastes instead of just discharging them untreated into the water, and thus improve the water quality, we build better technologies for our cars so smog isn't really a problem anymore, we build aircraft to travel from place to place at 35,000 feet in comfort (it's nasty cold out there!), and even build spacecraft to take us to such inhospitable places like the Moon.

Yes, we like to improve our environment!

Even the homeless guy will seek shelter under an overpass. Even he will try to improve his environment.
 
I don't believe I ever said "faults". I did speak of cracks in rocks where oil is forced out of by fracking, and I have spoken of plates being "moved", or disturbed, by fracking. However, since you have shown you are incapable of comprehending, or even reading, the English language I would suggest you STFU until such time as you learn to do so.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/earthquakes-triggered-by-fracking

Oil is not forced out by fracking. Fracking is used to crack rock while drilling. It's a drilling technique. There is nothing new about it.
 
Well, if he could eliminate gas now, he could put Beano out of business. But he can't, he won't and no one really cares about a Russian spreading misinformation. Too bad though, replacing the internal combustion engine with alternative sources of energy would be a good thing. Oh well.

Hi dukkha!!!!

How about an external combustion engine?
 
The funny thing about this idiot with this sign is the bridge he is standing in front of has not suffered any damage. You'd think it would have crumbled and collapsed with all that elevation change going on. Still see a nice barn in the background too. How is it still standing there?

Because the ground subsides in large areas uniformly as water is pumped out. Think of it as if a tide were going out. All ships in the harbor float evenly on the surface as it does.

It's only where you have uneven pumping, or you have changes in the soil conditions that problems occur.

This gives you the basic idea:

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You get this across the area of subsidence. If it's agricultural land it gets filled and crop growing goes on. If your house is on one, you're fucked.

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The funny thing about this idiot with this sign is the bridge he is standing in front of has not suffered any damage. You'd think it would have crumbled and collapsed with all that elevation change going on. Still see a nice barn in the background too. How is it still standing there?

You really ought to think about what you just said!
 
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Why do people want to end up being controlled by Russia, Saudi Arabia and the Middle East ffs? Independence of energy supplies is a massive positive but there's always miserable sods like Nutberg that want to massively exaggerate the risks associated with fracking.

SCIENTISTS AGREE: FRACKING DOESN’T HARM OUR WATER

Colorado’s lakes, reservoirs, and streams make our state beautiful—and more importantly, nourish our wildlife and supply our communities with water. When it comes to protecting our water, stringent regulations keep Colorado’s water clean while ensuring we can still responsibly access our state’s vast energy resources.

In fact, scientists and researchers from over two-dozen governmental organizations, universities, and nonprofits confirm that fracking does not contaminate groundwater.

Take a look at the findings of 26 of these independent, scientific studies below:

The Academy of Medicine, Engineering and Science of Texas (2017): “Direct migration of contaminants from targeted injection zones is highly unlikely to lead to contamination of potential drinking water aquifers.” (p. 128)

United States Geological Survey (2017): Unconventional oil and gas operations, such as fracking, did not affect drinking water quality.

Duke University (2017): “Based on consistent evidence from comprehensive testing, we found no indication of groundwater contamination over the three-year course of our study.” (From press release)

University of Cincinnati (2016): Water quality not affected by fracking or natural gas drilling in Ohio.

University of Texas-Austin (2016): Groundwater not affected by fracking in Parker County, Texas.

Syracuse University (2016): No evidence that fracking altered water quality in Appalachian Basin.

Wyoming Department of Environmental Quality (2016): Scientists show fracking had no impact on water-supply wells in Pavillion, Wyoming.

Susquehanna River Basin Commission (2016): “To date, the Commission’s monitoring programs have not detected discernible impacts on the quality of the Basin’s water resources as a result of natural gas development, but continued vigilance is warranted.” (p. 8)

Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, Yale University (2015): “We have found no evidence for direct communication with shallow drinking water wells due to upward migration from shale horizons. This result is encouraging, because it implies there is some degree of temporal and spatial separation between injected fluids and drinking water supply.” (p. 5)

U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (2015): “[H]ydraulic fracturing activities have not led to widespread, systematic impacts to drinking water resources.”

U.S. District Court, Wyoming (2015): “[E]xperts and government regulators have repeatedly acknowledged a lack of evidence linking the hydraulic fracturing process to groundwater contamination.” (p. 26)

Syracuse University (2015): No evidence of fracking contaminating groundwater in heavily drilled areas of Pennsylvania, West Virginia, and Ohio.

California Council on Science & Technology (2015): “The study found no releases of hazardous hydraulic fracturing chemicals to surface waters in California and no direct impacts to fish or wildlife.” (p. 35)

Stanford University (2015): Scientists find no evidence that fracking chemicals seeped into drinking water.
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U.S. Department of Energy (2014): “Current findings are: 1) no evidence of gas migration from the Marcellus Shale; and 2) no evidence of brine migration from the Marcellus Shale.” (p. 2)

U.S. Geological Survey (2014): “The comparison of groundwater data from this study with historical data found no significant difference for any of the constituents examined and therefore warrant no further discussion.” (p. 47)

Duke University, U.S. Geological Study (2013): Fracking and other gas-production activities had no effect on groundwater quality in Arkansas.

Gradient (2013): There is “no scientific basis” for the claim that fracking fluids will contaminate water aquifers.

University of Michigan (2013): “The often-postulated percolation upward of fracking water used in deep, long lateral well extensions to contaminate drinking water aquifers near the surface through the intervening impermeable rock formations is highly unlikely and has never reliably been shown to have occurred.” (p. 13)

National Groundwater Association (2013): “[T]hese findings suggest that the methane concentrations in Susquehanna County water wells can be explained without the migration of Marcellus shale gas through fractures, an observation that has important implications for understanding the nature of risks associated with shale-gas extraction.” (Study abstract)

Cardno Entrix (2012): Fracking has not caused groundwater contamination in Los Angeles.

U.S. Government Accountability Office (2012): “[R]egulatory officials we met with from eight states – Arkansas, Colorado, Louisiana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, and Texas – told us that, based on state investigations, the hydraulic fracturing process has not been identified as a cause of groundwater contamination within their states.” (p. 49)

Ground Water Protection Council (2011): “In recent years, the national debate on natural gas E&P has been focused nearly exclusively on a single, brief, yet essential activity, hydraulic fracturing. Neither state [Ohio and Texas] has identified hydraulic fracturing as the cause of a single documented groundwater contamination incident.” (p. 102)

Center for Rural Pennsylvania (2011): Gas drilling in the Marcellus Shale has not contaminated nearby water wells.

New York State Department of Environmental Conservation (2011): Fracking did not cause groundwater contamination.

Massachusetts Institute of Technology (2010): Risk of water contamination is low due to distance between groundwater and where fracking occurs.


https://www.cred.org/scientists-fra...chnology,chemicals seeped into drinking water.
 
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Donald Trump is too stupid and ineffective to understand or deal with either a deadly virus, or global climate change.

Without descisive action to mitigate it, human induced global climate change will continue for the foreseeable future, irrespective of how much you hate Al Gore.

It has been experimentally determined that CO2 and other greenhouse gases traps heat radiation. Releasing hundreds of billions of tons of heat trapping GHGs into the atmosphere every year, if unabated, will have environmental consequences both predictable and avoidable.
You're so full of shit.

Tell me, diapers, how in the hell does Biden solve global climate change? How does the old pedophile rein in abusers like China and india? lol
 
the thing that gets to me -and I dont claim any level of expertise - is that anything we do gets completely overwhelmed by the increase temps due to the sun

Just or more important we should be trying to save our carbon sinks -just buy the dang Amazon and turn into a park.
It's literally insane to think energy dependent societies can make it on green/renewable alone

and we are giving up our hard fought energy independence with Paris or Green New Deal, or even parts of it

*random thoughts*
 
You're so full of shit.

Tell me, diapers, how in the hell does Biden solve global climate change? How does the old pedophile rein in abusers like China and india? lol
Paris Accord enables China and India to continue to pollute, while penalizing the west..nutz
 
You're so full of shit!!

Tell me, diapers, how in the hell does Biden solve global climate change? How does the old pedophile rein in abusers like China and india? lol

Here are the CO2 emissions per person for three countries.

USA 16.5 metric tons per capita per year.
China 7.5 metric tons per capita per year
India 1.7 metric tons per capita per year


On average Granule, you emit ~15 times more carbon to the atmosphere per year than a person in India
 
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