Biden to eliminate oil and gas by 2035

[Into the Night]

May I allude to sources or references to support my arguments, O King?

No. Not if you want them to be your own arguments.

If you want to refer to say, something in the Constitution of the United States, you can certainly use that document as a source.
If you want to refer to a theory of science, you can certainly use the creator of that theory as a source.
If you want to define a word, then define it...yourself. Dictionaries do not define any word.
If you want to refer to what a politician said, you can refer to that politician, or his web site, not to any news source or any youtube video.

If you want to quote some data, like gun statistics, temperature of the Earth, etc., there are some rules I have before accepting any data:

* I must know who collected the data.
* I must know when it was collected and for what purpose.
* I must know the method of collection, and how biasing influences were removed from the collection process.
* I must have open access to the raw data.
* If a summary is used, I must have the rules of statistical mathematics followed, including having the variance declared and justified, selection of the raw data by randN, normalization by paired randR, and the margin of error value calculated and published along with the averages.

News sources are not valid sources of statistical data, nor is any poll from them valid since they ignore statistical mathematics. They also do not meet my standards of data acceptance.
I don't just accept any data, like you do.


I am no king. You are free to present any references you want, but I simply won't accept them as such. I will call you on your use of false authority fallacies or void authority fallacies as you commit these fallacies.

You do not need to make these fallacies or justify their use. Just start using references properly and from valid sources. For now, it's best to avoid the use of references at all. Learn to make your own arguments first, without references of any kind. It begins there.

 

[Flash]

Mexico is already paying for the wall. Trump has already repealed some of the teeth of Obamacare. It is rebuilding infrastructure and already has completed several of these projects as well. I wouldn't rule out prosecuting Hillary.
But you are right in that Biden cannot eliminate oil and natural gas.

All the wall is funded by the American taxpayers--Mexico is paying for none of it. Obamacare has not been replaced.

 

[Nordberg]

No.
Tracking is short for hydraulic fracturing.
A hole is drilled then oil and sand is pumped into it until the rock fractures.
The sand keeps the fractures open.

Stop talking about what you are ignorant of.

They pump on some nasty chemicals. However, they do not have to reveal what's in them.https://www.nrdc.org/stories/fracki...ethylene,considered hazardous to human health.

 

[Legion]

No. Not if you want them to be your own arguments.

Would that not render my arguments susceptible to rejection due to a lack of supporting evidence, Your Majesty?

 

[CFM]

???
Try English. It works better.

Try to stop being an asshole troll. It works better.

 

[christiefan915]

The hit cur yelps, I see.

Your lack of pertinent examples to substantiate your assertions is noted, as is your slavish imitation of one my favorite turns of phrase.

Sorry, laughing not yelping. It's just a reference to your propensity for latching onto false info. Like your assertion that fRight was dead but you couldn't post the proof because of Rule 1.

Legion: That's OK. I'm not in a position to post the evidence. Rule 1 prohibits it, and I don't break the rules.

 

[christiefan915]

I knew you'd try to claim that. It won't wash.

I knew you'd pretend to yourself that you know the way I respond to your claims. I respond the same way I do to your numerous dead poster claims, with an eyeroll.

 

[christiefan915]

What?

Memory problems?

Legion

I'm not the boss of you.
BTW, I think fRight may be dead.

Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post

I don't believe you.

Legion

That's OK. I'm not in a position to post the evidence. Rule 1 prohibits it, and I don't break the rules.

 

[christiefan915]

That's all you've got. You know exactly how old you are.

Spoiler

And so do I.

Keep thinking it. I know how much credence to put into what you know.

 

[christiefan915]

I will, until your next birthday rolls around.

Meanwhile, you can keep telling yourself that you're a lucky lissome lass with good genes.

Oh I forgot, you also think I'm a fat ginger who's supremely stupid, too!

I love messing with your mind.

 

[christiefan915]

Comprehension problems?

You collected "evidence" for your thoughts?

Legion

That's OK. I'm not in a position to post the evidence. Rule 1 prohibits it, and I don't break the rules.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Oil and coal are both subsidized, lying cunt.

No, they're not. The US government funds research and development in the energy industry, not production.

The industry does get some tax breaks, but then almost all industry does to some degree. Most of those are standard accounting allowed for any business, like depreciation or expensing off of government regulations that directly impact production.

But do try to prove otherwise. It's not like solar and wind where there are not just big tax breaks but heavy government subsidies of production because without those solar and wind equipment is too expensive to compete.

 

[Legion]

No, they're not. The US government funds research and development in the energy industry, not production. The industry does get some tax breaks, but then almost all industry does to some degree. Most of those are standard accounting allowed for any business, like depreciation or expensing off of government regulations that directly impact production. But do try to prove otherwise. It's not like solar and wind where there are not just big tax breaks but heavy government subsidies of production because without those solar and wind equipment is too expensive to compete.

Haven't many of those taxpayer-subsidized "green" energy companies failed and/or filed for bankruptcy despite massive infusions of out tax dollars?

 

[christiefan915]

Indeed. It's one of the traits of a disciplined mind.

Your so-called evidence wasn't factual.

 

[christiefan915]

The evidence I was referring to is.

Your reading comprehension sucks. You directly answered my comment that I didn't believe fRight was dead. Too deceitful to stand by your fake info.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Haven't many of those taxpayer-subsidized "green" energy companies failed and/or filed for bankruptcy despite massive infusions of out tax dollars?

Yep. My personal favorite is ECOtality.

An aside. During the last debate Biden claimed he'd put (after lowering the number several times while stammering) 50,000 charging stations on US highways across the country.

Anyway, ECOtality was based in Phoenix. They received just over $100 million in grants from the Obama administration to put in EV car charging stations all over the Phoenix and Tucson metro areas. They had $25 million private investment stake in the company. They put in hundreds of stations. They made IN TOTAL sales just over $5,000 before going bankrupt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECOta...network of charging stations for $3.3 million.
https://www.greentechmedia.com/arti...-Charging-Network-Changes-Hands-But-Not-Bad-R

Of course, that's dwarfed by Crescent Dunes solar plant a $1 billion + failure. Obsolete before it began operation.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...plant-was-obsolete-before-it-ever-went-online.

Taxpayers are still paying off the $737 million note on that failure of the Obama administration.

Here's a list of the failures...

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/Rest-in-Peace-The-List-of-Deceased-Solar-Companies

Most got huge government subsidies and grants that will never be paid back either.

 

[Legion]

Too deceitful to stand by your fake info.

What "fake info" is that?

 

[christiefan915]

I won't tell anyone if you won't... oops!

Did you dye your hair this weekend?

You didn't think I was supremely stupid when we were on the same side.

No I did not, did you? Careful not to get any dye on your male pattern baldness.

 

[Legion]

Yep. My personal favorite is ECOtality.

An aside. During the last debate Biden claimed he'd put (after lowering the number several times while stammering) 50,000 charging stations on US highways across the country.

Anyway, ECOtality was based in Phoenix. They received just over $100 million in grants from the Obama administration to put in EV car charging stations all over the Phoenix and Tucson metro areas. They had $25 million private investment stake in the company. They put in hundreds of stations. They made IN TOTAL sales just over $5,000 before going bankrupt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECOta...network of charging stations for $3.3 million.
https://www.greentechmedia.com/arti...-Charging-Network-Changes-Hands-But-Not-Bad-R

Of course, that's dwarfed by Crescent Dunes solar plant a $1 billion + failure. Obsolete before it began operation.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...plant-was-obsolete-before-it-ever-went-online.

Taxpayers are still paying off the $737 million note on that failure of the Obama administration.

Here's a list of the failures...

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/Rest-in-Peace-The-List-of-Deceased-Solar-Companies

Most got huge government subsidies and grants that will never be paid back either.

Biden announced a $535 million loan guarantee to Solyndra in 2009 when he was vice president. We all know what happened. Was Hunter paid any "consulting fees" on that deal?

I hear that so-called "green" energy companies have abysmal human rights records, too.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/a...-energy-companies-have-a-human-rights-problem

 

[AProudLefty]

The resources are limited and will end eventually.

BTW, it's "eliminate".