Biden to eliminate oil and gas by 2035

Trump's Brain said:
2050, not 2035 - and it's dooable or do you have no faith in American ingenuity? How long have you hated American, my friend?
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right now it's not doable. I dont think battery improvements are gona make pure renewables ever able to solely run an economy.

Windmills are resoucre hogs to produce and cause their own problems. Solar farms are nightmare for the enviornment and habitation

Get the improvements to make them capable of running an economy, and market forces will bring them in.
Hell -give them tax credits

But this idea of all electric cars requires charging stations that will be vandalized.
And they are expensive

All that said, when these problems are solved there is no reason they can't eventually take over the energy market. They are not ready now or teh foreseeable future
 
LV426 said:
Right, fracking doesn't cause earthquakes except for all the earthquakes in places that don't get them.
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This is why you are the butt of the joke. Only a Leftist moron could be manipulated into believing that earthquakes can be caused by pumping some water into the ground.

Trivia Question: How much money has the US DoD invested in weaponized water pump research?

Answer: You'd have to be a Leftist moron to believe that water pumps can cause earthquakes!

LV426 said:
I guess all those flaming faucets were just Hollywood special effects.
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This is why you are the butt of the joke. Only a Leftist moron could be manipulated into believing that there were ever any flaming faucets.

LV426 said:
I guess all that poisoned water and pollution doesn't really exist.
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This is why you are the butt of the joke. Only a Leftist moron could be manipulated into believing that water tables, tens of feet below the surface, can be poisoned by water that is underneath impermeable rock kilometers below the surface.

LV426 said:
And fracking is also not cost efficient.
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That's for individual companies to determine. Who convinced you that the cost efficiency for all cases, past, present and future, has been determined? How easy was it to convince you?

This is why you are the butt of the joke. You don't know anything yet you form violent opinions about matters of your ignorance. Too funny.
 
Guess LV 426 never heard of groundwater recharge either... It isn't known to cause earthquakes either...

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IBDaMann said:
This is why you are the butt of the joke. Only a Leftist moron could be manipulated into believing that earthquakes can be caused by pumping some water into the ground..
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That's a gross oversimplification because you don't know what fracking is, yourself. You're just making it all up as you go.
 
IBDaMann said:
Trivia Question: How much money has the US DoD invested in weaponized water pump research?
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No one cares. We're talking about fracking, not moving the goalposts to other things.


Only a Leftist moron could be manipulated into believing that there were ever any flaming faucets.
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It was their final, most essential command.” “The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears."


Only a Leftist moron could be manipulated into believing that water tables, tens of feet below the surface, can be poisoned by water that is underneath impermeable rock kilometers below the surface.
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Yeah, chemical water does poison water tables.


hat's for individual companies to determine. Who convinced you that the cost efficiency for all cases, past, present and future, has been determined? How easy was it to convince you?
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What convinced me was that last year alone, 42 fracking companies went bankrupt to the tune of $26B:

IEEFA update: Bankruptcies multiply for fracking sector
https://ieefa.org/ieefa-update-bankruptcies-multiply-for-fracking-sector/

Trivia question: How many solar companies went bankrupt in 2019?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Guess LV 426 never heard of groundwater recharge either... It isn't known to cause earthquakes either...

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You're a fucking idiot.

The operational design of fracking is literally to artificially create earthquakes.

Like...that's what it is, in plain terms...the deliberate causing of seismic activity in order to dislodge natural gas or other fossil fuels.

THAT IS LITERALLY ITS DESIGN.

Fracking is literally artificial seismic activity.

So yes, fracking causes earthquakes....because that is what fracking does...in plain, simple terms.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Rare footage of LV proclaiming his destiny...
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My son just started working at a multi-purpose (gas, food preparation, liquor sales, retail, etc..) convenience store and they'd like him to consider becoming a manager once he has been there for six months. It seems the only requirements to be a manager are 1) provide excellent customer service and 2) do not be a total moron. Unfortunately, these two qualities are sufficiently rare that my son will be the benefactor of accelerated upward mobility ... at a convenience store.

My daughter is in the same boat ... except she is not old enough to sell alcohol and therefore cannot be a manager.
 
LV426 said:
Right, fracking doesn't cause earthquakes except for all the earthquakes in places that don't get them. The same places that frack. Sure. OK.

I guess all those flaming faucets were just Hollywood special effects.
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It can be a problem, but it's not a big problem nor is it widespread
https://www.epa.gov/hfstudy

I guess all that poisoned water and pollution doesn't really exist.
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Same thing.

And yes, methane is a far heavier gas than carbon.
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No, methane is much lighter than CO2. The molar weight of methane is 16 (in round numbers) while CO2 has a molar weight of 44. Guess you never took chemistry or know how to read a periodic table...
 
IBDaMann said:
This is why you are the butt of the joke. Only a Leftist moron could be manipulated into believing that earthquakes can be caused by pumping some water into the ground.
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You're the real fucking joke here because you're spitting out bullshit about a process of which the design is to artificially manufacture seismic activity (earthquakes).

Like, dude, THAT IS LITERALLY WHAT FRACKING IS.

Shooting the water into the earth...TO WHAT END? To dislodge the resources trapped...and you can only free those resources BY INITIATING SEISMIC ACTIVITY.
 
LV426 said:
That's a gross oversimplification because you don't know what fracking is, yourself. You're just making it all up as you go.
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Your egregious errors don't somehow transform into being correct simply by implying that I know less about fracking than I do. Your absurdly stupid statements stand on their own and reveal you for the manipulated tool that you are.

You never answered the question: How easy was it to convince you of all this anti-fracking misinformation? Was it really easy?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Same thing..
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I guess your goalposts of "widespread" is what we should be debating, right? At what point does it cross from "not widespread" to "widespread"? You realize you're using a subjective judgment you made, post-hoc, in place of actual data or facts.

Is the reason you didn't go into how "widespread" it is because you can't spin the numbers in any good way that helps you?
 
LV426 said:
Ah, so before, when you said it was safe, that was you exaggerating, wasn't it? It's not safe. You're here admitting yourself it is a problem.

I didn't anticipate you'd move the goalpost that quickly.
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Lots of things can be a problem, it's when you demand they be 100% safe or with pollution 100% eliminated, that it becomes a problem. Your argument is essentially fracking is not completely safe, therefore it's unsafe, and we need to end it. That's an absurd argument based on a logical fallacy (reduction to the absurd). Your comment here is more of the same.
 
IBDaMann said:
Your egregious errors don't somehow transform into being correct simply by implying that I know less about fracking than I do. Your absurdly stupid statements stand on their own and reveal you for the manipulated tool that you are.

You never answered the question: How easy was it to convince you of all this anti-fracking misinformation? Was it really easy?
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Like I said...you're light on this subject because you don't know anything about it.

Fracking is literally artificially creating earthquakes. Literally. That's what fracking is. It's artificial seismic activity.

Now, you want us to believe that seismic activity can be controlled, and I'm telling you that it can't.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Lots of things can be a problem, it's when you demand they be 100% safe or with pollution 100% eliminated, that it becomes a problem. Your argument is essentially fracking is not completely safe, therefore it's unsafe, and we need to end it. That's an absurd argument based on a logical fallacy (reduction to the absurd). Your comment here is more of the same.
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My argument isn't merely that fracking isn't safe...my argument is that it's outrageously costly along so many terms, it doesn't make the process worth it.

That's why 42 fracking companies went bankrupt last year, totaling $26B in debt and losses.

How many solar companies went bankrupt last year?
 
T. A. Gardner said:
What difference does that make? Carbon has a molar weight of 12, so it's nearly the same weight as methane.
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But it's not the same weight, is it? And far more methane gets released during the fracking process. That's why I said it is costly along so many different terms, it doesn't make any sense as an extraction process.

42 fracking companies are gone from last year. More are following this year. Fracking isn't cheap, doesn't produce cheap energy, is dirty, and most people want to transition away from it.
 
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