Comrade Greenspan!

FUCK THE POLICE

911 EVERY DAY
I posted this last night and for some reason it seems to have been deleted. THis has actually happened to several of my messages here. O_O


http://caps.fool.com/blogs/viewpost.aspx?bpid=147427&t=01000420523245711617


Greenspan Suggests Bank Nationalization


February 18, 2009


Former Fed Chairman and longtime free-market icon Alan Greenspan now says nationalization of U.S. banks might be the “least bad” way forward in the ongoing financial system collapse.

In making the comment, Greenspan joined Republican Senator Lindsay Graham (R-SC), a member of the Senate Banking Committee, in testing the waters for support of the idea of letting government simply take over failing banks. Germany also this week cleared the way for bank nationalization as a last resort.

“It may be necessary to temporarily nationalize some banks in order to facilitate a swift and orderly restructuring,” Greenspan told the Financial Times in an interview.

“I understand that once in a hundred years this is what you do.”

Greenspan made the comments before speaking to the Economic Club of New York this week.

“In some cases, the least bad solution is for the government to take temporary control” of banks via the FDIC or some other mechanism. Many observers have suggested a return of the Resolution Trust Corporation, an entity created to unwind the savings-and-loan crisis of the 1980s.

Such a strategy would “allow the government to transfer toxic assets to a bad bank without the problem of how to price them,” Greenspan told the FT, although he warned against forcing losses on senior creditors in any case.

“This is a credit crisis and it is essential to preserve an anchor for the financing of the system. That anchor is the senior debt.”

NYU economist Nouriel Roubini, in a column, pointed out that he predicted a year ago that bank losses would hit at least $1 trillion and possibly $2 trillion.

“At that time, the consensus among economists and policymakers was that these estimates were exaggerated, because it was believed that subprime mortgage losses totaled only about $200 billion,” Roubini wrote in the Business Standard.

It’s going to end up even worse, Roubini now says.

Before, he was counting primarily failed subprime mortgages. Now, thanks to the global recession, you have to lump in prime mortgages, credit card debt, auto and student loans, and a bevy of industrial loans and sovereign bonds suddenly at risk.

“If you think that the $2 trillion figure is already huge, the latest estimates by my research consultancy RGE Monitor suggest that total losses on loans made by U.S. financial firms and the fall in the market value of the assets they hold (things like mortgage-backed securities) will peak at about $3.6 trillion,” Roubini wrote.

U.S. banks and broker dealers are exposed to about half of this figure, or $1.8 trillion; the rest is borne by other financial institutions in the United States and abroad.

Meanwhile, he says, the capital backing the banks’ assets was only $1.4 trillion last fall, leaving the U.S. banking system some $400 million in the hole, or close to zero, even after the government and private-sector recapitalization of such banks.

© 2009 Newsmax. All rights reserved.
 
Actually, it was YOUR sites error, not mine, because I posted it, and it updated the page and showed the post. Later I came back, and it wasn't there. YOUR fault.
I think you were too drunk to notice the difference between "Preview" and "Post".

;)
 
Theft of Bandwidth? Water, you naughy little emo... :nono:

IMHO, if you don't want your bandwidth stolen, you always have the ability to turn security on. It comes with every router sold. You have no excuse but stupidity, and stupid people deserve to have their internet stolen.

Personally I don't have security on on our network because I find it annoying but we live out in the woods anyway. The only person who could steal it is my uncle, and I just don't give a fuck.
 
I'm just trolling. I don't give a damn about bandwidth thievery, since Water is correct about it being easily preventable through security options.
 
IMHO, if you don't want your bandwidth stolen, you always have the ability to turn security on. It comes with every router sold. You have no excuse but stupidity, and stupid people deserve to have their internet stolen.

This is quite similar to how I feel about robbing people's houses.

If you really don't want your house robbed, lock your doors and sleep with a gun. Doing anything is pure stupidity. You have no excuse for your stupidity, and if you don't sleep with a gun then you deserved to get robbed by me.

Gah.
 
This is quite similar to how I feel about robbing people's houses.

If you really don't want your house robbed, lock your doors and sleep with a gun. Doing anything is pure stupidity. You have no excuse for your stupidity, and if you don't sleep with a gun then you deserved to get robbed by me.

Gah.

Accessing someone else's internet connection isn't stealing. EVERY router comes with unbreakable security. You have no excuse for not using it. And some people broadcast open connections - why should we make all open connections illegal just to accomadate a few idiots who get vaginal and can't understand their router security? And it's not like they're using all of the bandwidth anyway - usually, the bandwidth is just sitting there being wasted. I am using something that will otherwise be completely and totally wasted. Forgive me for not feeling that this is the utmost level of immorality. It's as dissimilar to breaking into someones house or stealing as two things can be.

IMHO, every state should pass the legislation New Hampshire did - you have a responsibility to secure a wireless network connection, otherwise it's classified as an open resource and anyone who wants can use it. Think of it this way anyway - they're broadcasting their network onto my property. If it's on my property, I have the right to use it.
 
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