So the only way to verify mail in ballots is by SIGNATURE??

Traditionally, the losing candidate calls the winner the next day. Of course, usually the losing candidate is an adult. Trump, being a child, is still crying.

Hillary has been proclaiming for four years that she is the real president, as she walks around the woods un upstate NY.
 
Did you also care about this after the 2016 election or is this just a tantrum?

I've cared about it since 2013 when Colorado went to all mail balloting. Before that...as an election judge I also objected to use of what they call "identification" such as a "copy of a utility bill" which I can easily manufacture on a printer at my house. It needs to be a "copy" not the original even.. Seriously. That's basically removing all checks.
 
I've cared about it since 2013 when Colorado went to all mail balloting. Before that...as an election judge I also objected to use of what they call "identification" such as a "copy of a utility bill" which I can easily manufacture on a printer at my house. It needs to be a "copy" not the original even.. Seriously. That's basically removing all checks.
I worked the polls in Alaska and I saw a lot of utilities bills used as ID by both Republican and Democratic voters. Doing away with it wound disenfranchise a lot of voters. How did I know their affiliation, it was a primary and they requested ballots by the party they wished to vote for.
 
I worked the polls in Alaska and I saw a lot of utilities bills used as ID by both Republican and Democratic voters. Doing away with it wound disenfranchise a lot of voters. How did I know their affiliation, it was a primary and they requested ballots by the party they wished to vote for.

No it wouldn't. They do have other identification. In AK they have a libertarian streak in them that drives them, rather perversely IMO, to use the least valid identification required during any government sponsored activity. They all seem to be ready to provide real ID in the rare circumstances that candidates actually show up in AK.
 
No it wouldn't. They do have other identification. In AK they have a libertarian streak in them that drives them, rather perversely IMO, to use the least valid identification required during any government sponsored activity. They all seem to be ready to provide real ID in the rare circumstances that candidates actually show up in AK.
Most of them were elderly Native, we didn’t ask for their ID. because in Alaska a utility is sufficient.

There should be no test to vote but your signature, and I saw one man use an X.
 
No it wouldn't. They do have other identification. In AK they have a libertarian streak in them that drives them, rather perversely IMO, to use the least valid identification required during any government sponsored activity. They all seem to be ready to provide real ID in the rare circumstances that candidates actually show up in AK.
I thought you were a libertarian? Or is this one of your Republican leaning positions
 
I thought you were a libertarian? Or is this one of your Republican leaning positions

Nah, I'm just not perverse about it. Making sure we have secure elections where only legal votes are cast is a good thing regardless of party, especially when it would be so easy to do. I question folks that do not want any checks, that try to make laws that make sure you cannot ensure any such thing.
 
Nah, I'm just not perverse about it. Making sure we have secure elections where only legal votes are cast is a good thing regardless of party, especially when it would be so easy to do. I question folks that do not want any checks, that try to make laws that make sure you cannot ensure any such thing.
I’m pretty sure those Native Americans in Alaska aren’t trying to bilk the system, I’m pretty sure most people aren’t. Voter fraud being widespread seems to only exist in the minds of a minority of people.
 
I’m pretty sure those Native Americans in Alaska aren’t trying to bilk the system, I’m pretty sure most people aren’t. Voter fraud being widespread seems to only exist in the minds of a minority of people.

The Native Americans in Alaska have tribal Identification that is accepted in those circumstances. Pretending that they couldn't provide ID is just absurd. Basically, asking for a better system isn't "unpatriotic" or "crazy" or even paranoid. It is looking at a system that is not made to build trust and asking to add just these small changes to make it something that can assure folks that their vote counts as it should.
 
The Native Americans in Alaska have tribal Identification that is accepted in those circumstances. Pretending that they couldn't provide ID is just absurd. Basically, asking for a better system isn't "unpatriotic" or "crazy" or even paranoid.
lol, I’ve NEVER seen a tribal ID card used. I have seen utility bills which is an accepted form in Alaska, a very Republican state. Asking them to obtain a certain form of ID is equal to a poll tax.
 
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