Time To Recognize Who We Are; Reunite America

PoliTalker said:
Hello votebiden,



We elected Biden but we didn't reduce the division in America.

The election shows how divided we are.

Biden narrowly won. Almost half the voters voted for Trump.

We cannot pretend it was a landslide. We are strongly divided.

If we try to pretend that is not the case, then we are fooling ourselves.

This is a very strange argument. I never expected to be in a position to have to make the case that we are divided. Very few people would even try to make the case that we are not divided.

There, actually, is something the left and the right in America can agree on.

We are strongly divided.
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Well, no, Snowflake.

The final results in several swing states are yet to be determined. The far left media does not get an Electoral vote. Litigation at the Supreme Court is pending.

The argument is that the votes left to be counted are not enough to change the outcome. This is purely obfuscation.

If the entire counting process was fraudulent, and it appears it was in many states, then the entire vote count, in those states, should be thrown out in those states.

The windows at buildings where votes were being counted were blacked out, video of a black man throwing a Trump vote on the floor, more Biden total votes than registered voters, Republican poll observers not allowed in the buildings and when they were, not allowed to be close enough to observe and on and on.

This is an illegitimate election and if the roles were reversed, the Democrats would be rioting in the streets...more so than they already are.
 
Darth Omar said:
I agree.

And the divisions don’t end there. Democrats are divided and they are going to have some work to do. With the exception of the top of the ticket there was a modest Red Wave in the election which is [well, should be] a clear signal to Biden that he needs to lead as a moderate if he is serious about uniting the country.

The dirty little secret is that one of the reasons we are divided is because Democrats have lurched so far to the left in recent years. Huge swaths of the country want nothing to do with defunding cops; they don’t want to gut the energy sector; anti-racism is perceived as anti-white racism; and on and on.

And the people who do advocate these things aren’t easily placated—these are radical notions being pushed by radicals. If you doubt that, just look at what was going on in the streets all summer with the tearing down or statues; businesses destroyed; the violence; people having their meals disrupted in public by thugs of every stripe.

There will be no healing with that going on. Forget about it.

So, if Biden wants healing he needs to marginalize the radicals. If he does it I’ll be very surprised.
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If the election results stand, Biden will be marginalized and removed to make room for the intended president from day one...Harris.
 
Micawber said:
I agree, but fat chance. These people have the back, above all else including country, of an asshole, single term, impeached, serial bankrupt, fraud university orchestrating, hypocritical,
incompetent, corrupt, racist, liar, confidence man, criminal and cheat. They have been inculcated in Fix News lies.

These yokels need deprogramming first in order to begin to love America.
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There we have it, reeducation camps for reprogramming, just like a good commie!
 
Hello Darth,

Darth Omar said:
I agree.

And the divisions don’t end there. Democrats are divided and they are going to have some work to do. With the exception of the top of the ticket there was a modest Red Wave in the election which is [well, should be] a clear signal to Biden that he needs to lead as a moderate if he is serious about uniting the country.

The dirty little secret is that one of the reasons we are divided is because Democrats have lurched so far to the left in recent years. Huge swaths of the country want nothing to do with defunding cops; they don’t want to gut the energy sector; anti-racism is perceived as anti-white racism; and on and on.

And the people who do advocate these things aren’t easily placated—these are radical notions being pushed by radicals. If you doubt that, just look at what was going on in the streets all summer with the tearing down or statues; businesses destroyed; the violence; people having their meals disrupted in public by thugs of every stripe.

There will be no healing with that going on. Forget about it.

So, if Biden wants healing he needs to marginalize the radicals. If he does it I’ll be very surprised.
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Moderate people from both sides understand that radicals on both sides are going to continue to be radical.

Somehow we have to move forward. There are far more stable moderate people who don't speak so loudly than there are outspoken radicals who are given way too much attention.
 
PoliTalker said:
Hello Darth,



Moderate people from both sides understand that radicals on both sides are going to continue to be radical.

Somehow we have to move forward. There are far more stable moderate people who don't speak so loudly than there are outspoken radicals who are given way too much attention.
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True.... But you elected the wrong person for that to ever be able to happen...we're seeing that already....the division becomes increasingly worse with each passing hour...in the country, but more so within the Democrat party itself...
 
Basically, we have two directions we can go.

We can destroy our country or we can try to put it back together.

I love my country.

I don't want to see it destroyed.

It's a good country, and it is the only one we've got.

We need to try to save it.
 
TOP said:
True.... But you elected the wrong person for that to ever be able to happen...we're seeing that already....the division becomes increasingly worse with each passing hour...in the country, but more so within the Democrat party itself...
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Democrats have been in denial about it.

Trump was scapegoated as the source of the divisiveness. So ok, then with Trump out of the picture will the radicals stay off the streets? Nope. As soon as Biden balks or starts playing footsie with Republicans they’ll be right back out there smashing windows and etc.

Biden isn’t even president yet and AOC is already on him about something. Biden just isn’t a strong enough leader *to deal with his own party* let alone much else. Yes, he can spout platitudes about unity but leading in that direction is another matter.
 
Darth Omar said:
Democrats have been in denial about it.

Trump was scapegoated as the source of the divisiveness. So ok, then with Trump out of the picture will the radicals stay off the streets? Nope. As soon as Biden balks or starts playing footsie with Republicans they’ll be right back out there smashing windows and etc.

Biden isn’t even president yet and AOC is already on him about something. Biden just isn’t a strong enough leader *to deal with his own party* let alone much else. Yes, he can spout platitudes about unity but leading in that direction is another matter.
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Yes indeed...this is not going to be good....
 
Earl said:
Well, no, Snowflake.

The final results in several swing states are yet to be determined. The far left media does not get an Electoral vote. Litigation at the Supreme Court is pending.

The argument is that the votes left to be counted are not enough to change the outcome. This is purely obfuscation.

If the entire counting process was fraudulent, and it appears it was in many states, then the entire vote count, in those states, should be thrown out in those states.

The windows at buildings where votes were being counted were blacked out, video of a black man throwing a Trump vote on the floor, more Biden total votes than registered voters, Republican poll observers not allowed in the buildings and when they were, not allowed to be close enough to observe and on and on.

This is an illegitimate election and if the roles were reversed, the Democrats would be rioting in the streets...more so than they already are.
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Trump lost,time to face reality
 
TOP said:
True.... But you elected the wrong person for that to ever be able to happen...we're seeing that already....the division becomes increasingly worse with each passing hour...in the country, but more so within the Democrat party itself...
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Hey dumb ass,why would a sworn Conservative,no shit about the Democrats
 
Hello Saudade,

Saudade said:
I've already explained why evidence is hard to come by. However, they have started to catch social workers who registered elderly to vote and then voted for them. https://www.westernjournal.com/social-worker-charged-134-felony-counts-election-fraud/
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I am sure there are individual cases. The problem is there are not enough of them. What Trump needs to make his case is massive fraud. Thousands and thousands of votes. There is no evidence of that.

No evidence, then the election stands. Joe Biden is our President-Elect. Kamala Harris is our Vice President-Elect. We had an election. These are the results. The election was monitored and has been verified as legitimate. Trump needs to give it up. He has had his chance to present evidence. No evidence then he needs to allow the transition to proceed. He can continue his fishing expedition, but he doesn't have enough to stand on to refuse to cooperate with the transition. That is hurting America. He is holding America hostage for his own selfish concerns. That leaves us vulnerable. He needs to give it up.
 
Hello Saudade,

Saudade said:
If no one had security cameras, proving theft would be a lot harder too.
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That is true, but this election did not happen in a vacuum. It was well scrutinized and observed through out the process. No fraud, no evidence. Move on. Cooperate with the transition now.
 
Darth Omar said:
Democrats have been in denial about it.

Trump was scapegoated as the source of the divisiveness. So ok, then with Trump out of the picture will the radicals stay off the streets? Nope. As soon as Biden balks or starts playing footsie with Republicans they’ll be right back out there smashing windows and etc.

Biden isn’t even president yet and AOC is already on him about something. Biden just isn’t a strong enough leader *to deal with his own party* let alone much else. Yes, he can spout platitudes about unity but leading in that direction is another matter.
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Trump is the source of divisiveness. There is no argument about that.
Biden is plenty strong but he likes to compromise . Reds see that as a weakness.
 
Nordberg said:
Trump is the source of divisiveness. There is no argument about that.
Biden is plenty strong but he likes to compromise . Reds see that as a weakness.
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Nope. Trump is not the source of divisiveness. For the last 4 years, you pubes couldn't accept his election. You've cried, screamed and made every effort to deny it. You chastised every one who voted for him as homophobic, racist etc. Now you wonder "Why Can't We Be friends"? Look in the mirror and you'll see who divided this country. Now, you can go fuck yourself.
 
We are a divided nation; so our challenge is to try to figure out how to go forward as a divided nation.

We can't expect anybody to change their view.

What we really need is for them to simply ratchet down the hatred.

Clearly we have these two sides that differ greatly.

Neither side is going away.

So why don't we simply accept the situation and look for what we can do together.

We need to work on infrastructure and the budget.

Those things are in everyone's interest.
 
Earl said:
Oh, so now you want to reunite.

After the daily...hourly attacks on the president and his family, you want to reunite.

Perhaps you can “reunite” after cheering the economic loss of millions of Americans and their families caused by the virus from China that China failed to contain.

There will be no reuniting and Biden is not the president-elect.

The Supreme Court has not spoken.
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Sad, I can almost visualize poor earl pouting @ his desk........

You know, one of the guys complaining about activist judges/courts hoping the court his beloved packed will come to the rescue...:laugh:

They have nine votes, I dunno if that will make much of a difference.......

That earl & the like refuse to unite comes as no surprise, they weren't looking for that the entire time the chaotic trump regime was in power..

They & their interests aka hates come before the country, the country be dammed.........

I guess the nation can take solace that in 20 years or so that root of bitterness will be planted under 6ft of soil........ :nodyes:
 
I would like to see conservatives and liberals talking civilly, even if the conversation doesn't go anywhere. But I fear it won't happen. In another thread, I asked a poster to clarify his comment. He called me a "troll" and a "dipshit."

How can we find common ground when we start out with insults and slander??
 
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