Now that it's all over you can be honest

anonymoose said:
Agreed but what does it say about the dem party when hrc was the best they had to offer?
You could even say the same about Biden, a two time loser when running for president. He never got more than single digits in 2008 with Hillary ahead of him, one of the lousiest candidates in my lifetime. What made him such a great candidate this time?
What does it say about the candidates both parties have nominated in recent years?
Obama was about the best dem since, hmm, I have to think hard about this one. Walter Mondale?
Repubs haven't had a decent one since George H.W.
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Neither have the temperament of a six year old and believe the world revolves around them. Donald Trump is the singular worst candidate in my lifetime, and it isn't even close.
 
Micawber said:
So long as you are amenable to getting into the weeds, and it appears you are, we are humans, and humans make mistakes, and if you look for mistakes, you WILL find them.
Fact is no prosecutorial power examining Hillary for DECADES at right wing insistence has issued a fucking parking ticket.

Now as to handling of state secrets, Colin Powell did the same. Exactly the same with the phone. He told her what to do. So you shore up the faults that can be exploited and remediate. She was intentionally (as in criminally) faultless in
any security, and that is what was found. You need to trust WE are as patriotic as you appear to be. And Hillary is no traitor. Trump however..... He is reckless, stupid and immoral.
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Oh it's the old well the Republicans did it defense. LOL
 
Eagle_Eye said:
This country is not ruined stop being a drama queen. Tell me how this country has been ruined.
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I do not overstate the antipathy of US citizens for one another or the destruction of truth and social and political mores. Just read I love America
and Stone. Watch what Trump did and said. Yes they are "intangibles" and not infrastructure.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
This country is not ruined stop being a drama queen. Tell me how this country has been ruined.
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I wouldn't say that it's ruined, but we now know that a large segment of our population can easily be hoodwinked into believing insane stuff like this election was "rigged" and "stolen." Worse, even more now distrust the only real system we have that prevents a tyrannical thing like Trump from taking over. That is ALL thanks to Trump and his lies. There is also a large number who distrust science, medical experts, and who are now endangering themselves (we don't care) and others (those we care about). We've always had a smaller percentage that are racist. Now they're not ashamed to show it openly.
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
I wouldn't say that it's ruined, but we now know that a large segment of our population can easily be hoodwinked into believing insane stuff like this election was "rigged" and "stolen." Worse, even more now distrust the only real system we have that prevents a tyrannical thing like Trump from taking over. That is ALL thanks to Trump and his lies. There is also a large number who distrust science, medical experts, and who are now endangering themselves (we don't care) and others (those we care about). We've always had a smaller percentage that are racist. Now they're not ashamed to show it openly.
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As Lincoln once said "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." That is what Trump did.
 
Eagle_Eye said:
As Lincoln once said "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." That is what Trump did.
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Yes. Yet you woke up and saw it for what it was... and even better, you stuck your neck out to criticize the IMPOTUS here, and got slammed for it. How is it that you had the courage but others don't? Or do you think that for every Eagle Eye who saw the light, there are 99 more of you? For the sake of this country, I sure hope so.
 
AssHatZombie said:
trump is probably going to declare martial law, expose the cabal, and imprison establishment members of this coup attempt.

there is no question this election was stolen by a plethora of organized dirty tricks.

https://godskingdom.org/blog/2020/1...-against-foreign-interference-in-us-elections

In that executive order, which almost no one has covered since the day it was signed, President Trump declares a national emergency. That emergency is still in play to this day, and the 2020 election was conducted under this state of emergency, which is a crucial point to understand what’s coming next….

Why is this relevant to anything we’re seeing right now with the massive election fraud carried out by the Democrats and the deep state? Because Dominion Voting Systems is a Canadian company. And Scytl is run out of Spain.

That’s right. Dominion is a foreign-owned company, which makes Dominion-based election theft a “foreign interference issue.”…

What people are missing in all this is that Trump’s 2018 executive order gives the DOJ the power to seize all assets of individuals and companies that were complicit in aiding or covering up this foreign interference in U.S. elections.
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Perhaps the petty dictator in Turkey can send him a copy of his play book.........

I hope you don't follow him, not sure you'll do well in a cold federal prison for a few years + we'll miss you............:)
 
If they were going to be honest they would have to fess up to a lot of stuff they don't want to admit.

Like the fact that human-caused global warming is changing our climate and causing havoc.

That bad American foreign policy has caused massive migration toward our southern border.

That drug laws were a huge mistake.

That we have totally dropped the ball on education.

That we need to tax the rich more and stop running the country on irresponsible borrowing.

That the biggest problem the world faces is over-population.

That humans are destroying rare species of animals without regard to the consequences.

That because of uncontrolled human expansion, we are coming in contact with animal populations which have novel diseases such as the coronavirus, which can have a disastrous effect on the human population. And that if we were not expanding our own population at an uncontrolled rate, we would never have pushed into old growth wild areas where such novel diseases have been encountered...
 
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