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AssHatZombie said:
The third party is harmed, also leaving the activity uncovered by my definition.

Try again.
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LOL... Ahhhh... so, let's refine your definition of morality yet again!

MORALITY: A set of attitudes and behaviors which facilitate voluntary, cooperative and mutually beneficial relationships across all mankind.

Jeesh... sounds a little like what religion teaches! :rolleyes:
 
AssHatZombie said:
Why does dixie hate a rational non-spirtually religious oriented morality? Because it cannot be perverted by an authoritarian priesthood and their hidden teachings, or the Wisdom Of Their Fathers.
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What you seem to have refined your definition of morality into, is not any different than what is taught in every major religion. You just presume that it can exist without any spiritual basis... and perhaps to a degree, it can. However, spiritual belief in something greater than self, tends to help facilitate a motivational factor for practicing morality over self preservation. This is why religious and spiritual people generally have more "morality" than non-spiritual or Atheist people.
 
Dixie said:
What you seem to have refined your definition of morality into, is not any different than what is taught in every major religion. You just presume that it can exist without any spiritual basis... and perhaps to a degree, it can. However, spiritual belief in something greater than self, tends to help facilitate a motivational factor for practicing morality over self preservation. This is why religious and spiritual people generally have more "morality" than non-spiritual or Atheist people.
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Sounds like a lot of religions have ruled with fear.

Those who are moral because of the positive attributes of their faith would be moral without their faith. Those who act in a moral manner due to fear of punishment, are no more than trained dogs.
 
Solitary said:
Sounds like a lot of religions have ruled with fear.

Those who are moral because of the positive attributes of their faith would be moral without their faith. Those who act in a moral manner due to fear of punishment, are no more than trained dogs.
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Solitary, I thought you told us you were a religious man? Was that a fucking lie? Apparently so!

Did it ever occur to you, in your demented pea-sized brain, that maybe people of spiritual faith are not behaving morally out of fear of being punished, but more so out of an enthusiasm for being rewarded? Is that just slightly possible in your world view, or is it completely out of the question?

From my spiritual perspective, I don't fear being punished, that has nothing to do with why I behave morally. I do so because it helps to enhance the positive energy sources surrounding me. I have found, through my life experience, that when I behave immorally, things don't go well for me, I am miserable (much like you and Asshat) and I become somewhat depressed and tend to get sick more, etc. When I behave morally, it has the opposite effect, I am happier, more content with life, more at peace with myself and the world around me.

As I've said, I am not Christian, but my sister is a devout Christian... she is always after me to go to church... she says, once you develop the habit of going, you feel better overall, you miss it when you don't go, it just seems to make life better to attend church regularly. I can see that, it's not much different from my own spirituality. Those of you who have denounced spirituality, I don't know if you even realize it or not, but you are miserable, tormented, living life in agony and frustration. To me, life is way too short to waste it like that. I'd rather be happy, positive, content, and fulfilled. But... to each his own, I suppose.
 
Dixie said:
Solitary, I thought you told us you were a religious man? Was that a fucking lie? Apparently so!

Did it ever occur to you, in your demented pea-sized brain, that maybe people of spiritual faith are not behaving morally out of fear of being punished, but more so out of an enthusiasm for being rewarded? Is that just slightly possible in your world view, or is it completely out of the question?

From my spiritual perspective, I don't fear being punished, that has nothing to do with why I behave morally. I do so because it helps to enhance the positive energy sources surrounding me. I have found, through my life experience, that when I behave immorally, things don't go well for me, I am miserable (much like you and Asshat) and I become somewhat depressed and tend to get sick more, etc. When I behave morally, it has the opposite effect, I am happier, more content with life, more at peace with myself and the world around me.

As I've said, I am not Christian, but my sister is a devout Christian... she is always after me to go to church... she says, once you develop the habit of going, you feel better overall, you miss it when you don't go, it just seems to make life better to attend church regularly. I can see that, it's not much different from my own spirituality. Those of you who have denounced spirituality, I don't know if you even realize it or not, but you are miserable, tormented, living life in agony and frustration. To me, life is way too short to waste it like that. I'd rather be happy, positive, content, and fulfilled. But... to each his own, I suppose.
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Dixie, try rereading my post. For those who behave morally because of the positive attributes or "energies" of their spirituality, I think they would seek live much the same lives without a religion to follow. Please tell me what is anti-religion about that?

If you live as you say, you would fit into this group.



If you do not believe that there are plenty of people who let their religious beliefs rule them thru fear, you have only to examine the fire & brimstone preachers or the radical islamics for proof.

Your reply was a knee-jerk reaction to what you percieve as an attack on spirituality. It was not an attack, just an observation.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Why does dixie hate a rational non-spirtually religious oriented morality? Because it cannot be perverted by an authoritarian priesthood and their hidden teachings, or the Wisdom Of Their Fathers.
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It can't teach you to throw rocks at women who cheat on their husbands?
 
I avoided this one for a while knowing that in the minds of many, it was going to be the bad guns that kill. Earlier in the post someone showed a semi-auto and a bolt action, Anyone know which one killed all those students in Austin TX in the 60's?
 
Socrtease said:
I avoided this one for a while knowing that in the minds of many, it was going to be the bad guns that kill. Earlier in the post someone showed a semi-auto and a bolt action, Anyone know which one killed all those students in Austin TX in the 60's?
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I brought that up, Soc. He had a semi-auto with him, but he did his killing with a bolt action.
 
Solitary said:
Dixie, try rereading my post. For those who behave morally because of the positive attributes or "energies" of their spirituality, I think they would seek live much the same lives without a religion to follow. Please tell me what is anti-religion about that?

If you live as you say, you would fit into this group.

If you do not believe that there are plenty of people who let their religious beliefs rule them thru fear, you have only to examine the fire & brimstone preachers or the radical islamics for proof.

Your reply was a knee-jerk reaction to what you percieve as an attack on spirituality. It was not an attack, just an observation.
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Much of the reason I don't belong to any particular religion is because they all tend to follow the interpretations of one man or one group of men, regarding what "God" is, what he expects or doesn't expect from us, etc. I can't say I would live the same moral lifestyle if I were devoid of spirituality, if I didn't believe in something greater than self. And honestly, I can't rationalize what the motivations would be for someone who thinks there is nothing greater than self, to behave in a consistently moral way. When push comes to shove, these people look out for #1, as that is typical human nature. Adhering to a moral standard, sometimes requires sacrifice and commitment, to something other than yourself. That's MY observation.

I'm not anti-religious, I see a benefit for some people in their religious spiritual faith, and they need that foundation and belief system. The world would be a much more sinister and vile place, if all religion were taken away. I would prefer that all people adopt a belief in spirituality as I have, but I can't control other people, nor do I desire to. I am content with allowing people to find a spiritual belief which is comfortable for them, and if that involves some religious dogma, so be it, as long as it's not contradictory to positive energy, which I believe in. I'll stand up for their rights to be Christian, Jewish, or whatever, and I'll defend what they stand for, because it is conducive with the enhancement of positive energy, and what I have faith in.

That said, I agree, some people do take religion to an extreme and use it to foster hate and fear. In my opinion, they are not obeying the mandate of their God, and will probably burn in hell for eternity because of it... I don't know that, but I do know their life on this planet is not going to be fulfilled and blessed with positive energy. But, it's really not for me to judge others, I have been a sinner, I have behaved immorally, so I have no right to 'cast stones' in that regard. I just know what I have faith in, and what I know for a fact, and these people who consistently bash and trash spiritual beliefs, are ignorant blind fools.
 
Dixie said:
What you seem to have refined your definition of morality into, is not any different than what is taught in every major religion. You just presume that it can exist without any spiritual basis... and perhaps to a degree, it can. However, spiritual belief in something greater than self, tends to help facilitate a motivational factor for practicing morality over self preservation. This is why religious and spiritual people generally have more "morality" than non-spiritual or Atheist people.
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And you prefer murdering people for "the greater good".
 
Dixie said:
LOL... Well, I wouldn't expect a scum bucket like you to know anything about morality or decency. For your information, I display the battle flag in which my relatives (who were half black and half native american) fought and died under. I can't help that you've bought into yankee propaganda taught over the years, and see it as a symbol of something else. You've already proven your major problem in life, is ignorance.
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You're a fucking moron .. "Yankee propaganda" :)

Dude, I don't give a damn about what you think, not trying to convince your uber-stupid ass of anything.

I'm just enjoying reading you being made a fool of and getting your illogic smashed all over this board.

If your relatives actually were "half-black and native American" AND they fought for the confederacy of ungodly evil, then they were as moronic as your dumb motherfucking ass.

"morality" :)

"Ignorance" .. not my problem dummy

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