Are you a lockdown Luddite?

The Anonymous

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Prior to the Covid-19 pandemic, mainstream epidemiology and public health entities doubted – or even rejected – the efficacy of lockdowns and mass quarantines because they were considered ineffective.

This all changed in March 2020, when sentiment (that means "feelings" in case you're a DEMOCRAT) flipped in support of lockdown measures. Still, there is a vast body of evidence explaining their original stance and why these mandates do not work.

High Priest of the Covidian Cult Saint Anthony Fauci said that shutting down the country does not work. (January 24, 2020)

Early into 2020, High Priest of the Covidian Cult Saint Anthony Fauci spoke to reporters saying, “That’s something that I don’t think we could possibly do in the United States. Whether or not it does or does not is really open to question because historically when you shut things down it doesn’t have a major effect.”

A World Health Organization Report discusses NPIs and why quarantine is ineffective. (2019)

In a table, WHO lists their recommendations of NPIs depending on severity level. Quarantine of exposed individuals is categorized as “not recommended in any circumstances.” The report explains that “home quarantine of exposed individuals to reduce transmission is not recommended because there is no obvious rationale for this measure, and there would be considerable difficulties in implementing it.”

WHO acknowledges social-distancing did not stop or dramatically reduce transmission during the 1918 influenza pandemic. (2006)

The WHO authors ultimately conclude that NPIs, including quarantining, require better and more focused methods to make them more effective and less “burdensome.” “Ill persons,” the authors assert, “should remain home when they first become symptomatic, but forced isolation and quarantine are ineffective and impractical.”

In the Biosecurity and Bioterrorism journal, Johns Hopkins epidemiologists rejected quarantines outright. (2006)

In an article titled, “Disease Mitigation Measures in the Control of Pandemic Influenza,” JHU epidemiologists note problems with lockdowns: “As experience shows, there is no basis for recommending quarantine either of groups or individuals. The problems in implementing such measures are formidable, and secondary effects of absenteeism and community disruption as well as possible adverse consequences, such as loss of public trust in government and stigmatization of quarantined people and groups, are likely to be considerable.” Their concluding remark emphasized, “experience has shown that communities faced with epidemics or other adverse events respond best and with the least anxiety when the normal social functioning of the community is least disrupted.”

In the American Journal of Epidemiology, authors explain the conditions when quarantine would be effective, which do not align with the characteristics of Covid-19. (2006)

Specifically, they note that quarantines will only be effective when: (1) isolation is not possible; and (2) asymptomatic spread is significant and timed in a narrow way (none of which is the case for Covid). They conclude that “the number of infections averted through the use of quarantine is expected to be very low provided that isolation is effective.” And if isolation is ineffective? Then it will only be beneficial “when there is significant asymptomatic transmission and if the asymptomatic period is neither very long nor very short.” But, should mass quarantine be used it would “inflict significant social, psychological, and economic costs without resulting in the detection of many infected individuals.”

In the Epidemiology Journal, Harvard and Yale professors Marc Lipsitch and Ted Cohen say delaying infection can leave the elderly worse off. (2008)

They explain how delaying the risk of infection can work counterintuitively when the pathogen is more lethal for older populations. They say, “Reducing the risk that each member of a community will be exposed to a pathogen has the attendant effect of increasing the average age at which infections occur. For pathogens that inflict greater morbidity at older ages, interventions that reduce but do not eliminate exposure can paradoxically increase the number of cases of severe disease by shifting the burden of infection toward older individuals.” Based on this analysis, Covid-19, which disproportionately harms the older more than the young, is better handled by allowing the community to be exposed, whether through natural infection or vaccination.

A team of Johns Hopkins scholars say quarantines don’t work but are pursued for political reasons. (September 2019)

In the report, they explain how quarantine is more political than related to public health: “During an emergency, it should be expected that implementation of some NPIs, such as travel restrictions and quarantine, might be pursued for social or political purposes by political leaders, rather than pursued because of public health evidence.” Later on, they explain the ineffectiveness of quarantine: “In the context of a high-impact respiratory pathogen, quarantine may be the least likely NPI to be effective in controlling the spread due to high transmissibility.”

In March 2020, Michael Osterholm – now the usurper’s Covid-19 advisor – also argued that lockdowns are not a “cure” for the pandemic, listing multiple costs from a lockdown. Yet, Osterholm’s New York Times article in August reveals a contrasting viewpoint, stating that “we gave up on our lockdown efforts to control virus transmission well before the virus was under control” by opening “too quickly.” Osterholm and (Neel) Kashkari promote a mandatory shelter-in-place “for everyone but the truly essential workers.”

While expert consensus regarding the ineffectiveness of mass quarantine of previous years has recently been challenged, significant present-day evidence continuously demonstrates that mass quarantine is both ineffectual at preventing disease spread as well as harmful to individuals. Learning the wrong lesson – assuming that mass quarantines are both good and effective – sets a dangerous precedent for future pandemics.



https://www.aier.org/article/what-they-said-about-lockdowns-before-2020/
 
The burden of proof is on lockdown lovers to prove lockdowns are effective

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Lockdowns are back in full force as we enter the 11th month of “15 days to stop the spread.”

  • New York City has closed schools and even outdoor dining.
  • Pennsylvanians are required to wear masks in their homes.
  • Californians are to wear masks between bites of food (except Governor Newsom, of course) and ordered to stay at home.
  • Schools in many states have committed to only offering remote learning for the foreseeable future.


Recall that state governors locked down because the March 2020 Imperial College model predicted we’d be in a worst-case ten-fold shortfall of ICU capacity at our peak and a best-case three-fold shortfall.

That never happened; we never got remotely close.

Still, we’re locked down and really never fully reopened anywhere.

"COVID-19" hospitalizations in America were at an all-time high in early January at ~132,000.

Data from North Dakota, Iowa, and Florida suggest a good third of all "COVID-19" hospitalizations are not from COVID-19, but rather involve patients with an unrelated illness that are carrying the virus, according to PCR tests. (North Dakota only counts those hospitalized for COVID-19 disease, not just testing positive, something all states need to do).

That applies to "COVID-19" fatalities, too, except that a positive test isn't needed. It can be "assumed" that COVID-19 is the cause of death, per the CDC.

We seem to have forgotten that locked-down states need to demonstrate results to justify more lockdowns. They haven't.

In November, tightly-locked Minnesota and Michigan were both up almost 10%, Pennsylvania was up a whopping 26%, and Wisconsin up almost 30%. If lockdowns work, shouldn’t they be doing better?

If lockdowns work, the states surrounding Florida should have far better metrics than the Sunshine State. They do not.

States that are locked down are not outperforming those that are comparatively open, and they should be, to justify lockdowns.

The burden of proof is on the lockdown states to prove they are effective at suppressing COVID-19 compared to those that are open.







https://rationalground.com/the-burden-of-proof/
 
https://www.whitehouse.gov/openingamerica/

Impeached (x2) trump locked us down and shut down businesses.

If he actually promoted his own plan he probably would have won the election.

His cowardly lack of leadership cost lives and hurt the economy.

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He gave governor's control of their own states. If he implemented the things those governors implemented, you socialists would have gone berserk.
 
He gave governor's control of their own states. If he implemented the things those governors implemented, you socialists would have gone berserk.

You have to wonder just how prevalent that level of ignorance is in the electorate lol.

And yup, the governors own the COVID response. Trump had little to nothing to with how State X faired with respect to the virus—and most importantly, the social and economic impact of their respective guideline policies.

That’s why there’s such disparity between a FL and a NY. That disparity has nothing to do with Trump or even Fauci for that matter. Ironically, Fauci’s authority doesn’t extend beyond his little bureaucratic fiefdom. It’s Fauci’s *word* that carries power.
 
You have to wonder just how prevalent that level of ignorance is in the electorate lol.

And yup, the governors own the COVID response. Trump had little to nothing to with how State X faired with respect to the virus—and most importantly, the social and economic impact of their respective guideline policies.

That’s why there’s such disparity between a FL and a NY. That disparity has nothing to do with Trump or even Fauci for that matter. Ironically, Fauci’s authority doesn’t extend beyond his little bureaucratic fiefdom. It’s Fauci’s *word* that carries power.
January 21, a real leader will show you how the Trump administration should have responded, 61.
 
January 21, a real leader will show you how the Trump administration should have responded, 61.

The Biden Administration WILL make inroads into recovery within months (it will not be instantaneous, for certain)...and the cretins of the right will pretend that the real reason for the reversal is what they did under the Abomination.

The right IS America's great sickness...and there is no vaccine for it.
 
Sign an EO mandating mask wearing?
No, ramping up vaccine production, Bayer announced they will be participating, ramping up PPE production, FEMA will be coordinating these efforts. The federal government will actually help the states in their effort. Congress will actually pass bills to give the states money.

The Biden administration will treat this like the natural disaster it is.
 
No, ramping up vaccine production, Bayer announced they will be participating, ramping up PPE production, FEMA will be coordinating these efforts. The federal government will actually help the states in their effort. Congress will actually pass bills to give the states money.

The Biden administration will treat this like the natural disaster it is.

I'm looking forward to no more of that stupid favoritism of "that state voted for me but that state didn't so I'm going to punish it" petty vindictiveness that we saw under #LOSER45.
 
I'm looking forward to no more of that stupid favoritism of "that state voted for me but that state didn't so I'm going to punish it" petty vindictiveness that we saw under #LOSER45.
Yes, no more Jared Kushner’s or Stephen Miller’s in the administration. I wonder what SM that nasty piece of work will do after his power trip in the WH?
 
No, ramping up vaccine production, Bayer announced they will be participating, ramping up PPE production, FEMA will be coordinating these efforts. The federal government will actually help the states in their effort. Congress will actually pass bills to give the states money.

The Biden administration will treat this like the natural disaster it is.
absolutely true the states are largley inept.
Production isnt a problem. distribution is. money isnt going to help either..it's going to take some military to move the shit into peoples arms
 
absolutely true the states are largley inept.
Production isnt a problem. distribution is. money isnt going to help either..it's going to take some military to move the shit into peoples arms

The distribution needs to be coordinated and delivered at the national level. Have the Guard do it.

That is, after they're done protecting the state capitols from the gun-humping seditionists. :rolleyes:
 
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