You have no RIGHT to post on JPP, social media, or anywhere else that you did not cre

Primavera said:
It's called Reductio Ad Absurdum. In argumentation and informal logic, it is a method of refuting a claim by extending the logic of the opponent's argument to a point of absurdity. Also known as the reductio argument and argumentum ad absurdum.
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So you think Twitter shouldn't give a platform to the most hated men?
 
blackascoal said:
So trump is still president? We don’t think he is. Is he?
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I worked under a governor who no-one respected. All staff saw through his duplicitous nature and lack of integrity. But HE still held to his grandiose feeling of being "leader" - "in charge" - he never, ever realised that the staff did their minimum commitment. For example; If he wanted staff to work beyond their 5PM finish time no one did, they applied their right to go home at 5PM... this guy never ever got it. But a good governor with integrity - he did not even have to ask, we all worked our butts off and were happy with high morale. So yes, anyone can assume they are number 1, at the top. Good luck to them. After a while I became the leader, in charge - all was great.
Biden will not be removed in the same way they removed Mr Trump - deliberate invented back stabbing evil nastiness and criminality. Biden will collapse on pure natural disconnect. In effect the worst way to be fuffed off.
 
Bill said:
It seems to be for some....

They are sitting @ home, in their castle they think they can play by their rules, which really are a Hodge podge of bias, situational ethics & self deceit randomly applied..

That anyone would hold them to account for failure to comply w/ the tos they agreed to is a real Poutrage...
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the rules are access fr political speech.. at least the rules used to be that
cancel culture takes all that away with capricious banning.
I'm amazed you are OK with this
 
cordeela said:
I worked under a governor who no-one respected. All staff saw through his duplicitous nature and lack of integrity. But HE still held to his grandiose feeling of being "leader" - "in charge" - he never, ever realised that the staff did their minimum commitment. For example; If he wanted staff to work beyond their 5PM finish time no one did, they applied their right to go home at 5PM... this guy never ever got it. But a good governor with integrity - he did not even have to ask, we all worked our butts off and were happy with high morale. So yes, anyone can assume they are number 1, at the top. Good luck to them. After a while I became the leader, in charge - all was great.
Biden will not be removed in the same way they removed Mr Trump - deliberate invented back stabbing evil nastiness and criminality. Biden will collapse on pure natural disconnect. In effect the worst way to be fuffed off.
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thanks for that bit o' nonsense. what does biden will collapse on pure natural disconnect mean? do you have a clue?
 
anatta said:
the rules are access fr political speech.. at least the rules used to be that
cancel culture takes all that away with capricious banning.
I'm amazed you are OK with this
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you mean like when trump called on his goons to not use Amazon or watch CNN, among other goofy things? did you cry great big alligator tears then, trump stooge?


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A list of people and things Donald Trump tried to get canceled before he railed against 'cancel culture'

August 2012: Trump says Black journalist Touré, then a co-host of the MSNBC show "The Cycle," should be "forced to resign" for comments in which Touré uttered a variant of the N-word while arguing that Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney was using racially coded language to try to make President Barack Obama seem frightening. (Touré had apologized before Trump's demand.)
December 2012: Trump calls for the firing of Vanity Fair magazine Editor Graydon Carter, with whom he had feuded for years, over what he declares the magazine's "worst ever issue."
December 2012: Trump says "Scots should boycott Glenfiddich garbage" because the whisky brand selected Michael Forbes, a farmer who refused to sell his land to make way for a Trump golf course, as "Top Scot" of the year.
March 2013: Trump says, "Everyone should cancel HBO until they fire low life dummy Bill Maher! Get going now and feel good about yourself!"
July 2013: Trump asks people to "boycott & cancel subscriptions" to Rolling Stone magazine.
October 2013: Trump urges "everybody possible" to "cancel their subscription" to New York Magazine over an insulting tweet about Trump's marriage from Dan Amira, who was online editor at the time.
March 2014: After Trump is left off a CNBC list of the most influential business leaders, he says, "Stupid poll should be canceled—no credibility."
May 2014: Trump calls for the firing of, or at least an apology from, the person at The Oklahoman newspaper who wrote a headline calling then-Oklahoma City Thunder NBA star Kevin Durant "Mr. Unreliable." (The newspaper had already apologized.)
June 2014: Trump says people should "Boycott Mexico" until a Marine reservist who was jailed for crossing the border with loaded guns is released from prison. (He was released later in the year.)
April 2015: Trump suggests that conservative writer Jonah Goldberg, then a senior editor of National Review magazine, should be forced to resign for writing that Trump had been "tweeting like a 14-year-old girl" in response to another conservative writer calling Trump a clown. Trump also suggests Fox News anchor Bret Baier should stop having Goldberg on his show.
June 2015: When Spanish-language television network Univision severed its business relationship with Trump after his campaign launch speech, in which he labeled Mexican immigrants as criminals and rapists, Trump tweets, "Anyone who wants strong borders and good trade deals for the US should boycott @Univision."
July 2015: Trump calls for a boycott of Macy's after Macy's discontinued its business dealings with him over those same comments about people from Mexico. Trump also tweets "Great" when someone tells him that people are canceling their Macy's credit cards.
August 2015: Trump calls for the firing of the late conservative writer and Fox News commentator Charles Krauthammer, a regular Trump critic.
September 2015: After National Review editor Rich Lowry argued on Fox News that rival Republican candidate Carly Fiorina had "cut off (Trump's) balls with the precision of a surgeon" in a primary debate, Trump says: "Incompetent @RichLowry lost it tonight on @FoxNews. He should not be allowed on TV and the FCC should fine him!" (Lowry responds, "I love how Mr. Anti-PC now wants the FCC to fine me. #pathetic.")
December 2015: Trump calls for the firing of then-CBS News journalist Sopan Deb and NBC/MSNBC journalist Katy Tur over reporting he disputed about how he handled protesters during a rally speech.
February 2016: Trump says people should "boycott all Apple products" until the company stops fighting a government request to break into the cell phone of a deceased California terrorist.
February 2016: Trump says Fox News should fire Republican strategist and commentator Karl Rove for being insufficiently positive about his victory in the Nevada caucuses.
February 2016: Trump calls on the Wall Street Journal to fire its editorial board, which had criticized him, and its pollster, which showed results he didn't like.
March 2016: Trump proposes a boycott of Megyn Kelly's Fox News show, complaining that it is too negative toward him.
September 2016: After the Dallas Morning News and Arizona Republic newspapers endorse Hillary Clinton for president and USA Today declares Trump unfit for the office, Trump says, "The people are really smart in cancelling subscriptions to the Dallas & Arizona papers & now USA Today will lose readers! The people get it!"
September 2017: Trump tweets that NFL players and other athletes who don't stand for the National Anthem should be told, "YOU'RE FIRED." He says in another tweet, "Fire or suspend!" And at a rally, he says, "Wouldn't you love to see one of these NFL owners when somebody disrespects our flag to say, 'Get that son of a bitch off the field right now, out, he's fired, he's fired.' "
October 2017: Suggesting he could use the power of the state against media entities he dislikes, Trump muses about challenging the broadcast licenses of NBC and other networks over their news coverage. (He again broached the subject of reviewing NBC's license in September 2018.)
November 2017: Trump calls for a boycott of CNN.
August 2018: Trump tweets, "Many @harleydavidson owners plan to boycott the company if manufacturing moves overseas. Great! Most other companies are coming in our direction, including Harley competitors."
June 2019: Trump suggests people stop "using or subscribing" to AT&T to pressure the company to make changes at CNN, which it owns.
September 2019: Trump suggests that actress Debra Messing should be fired for calling on a news outlet to publish the names of people attending a Trump fundraiser and for a tweet promoting a church sign that said "a black vote for Trump is mental illness." (Messing had apologized for the tweet about the church sign.)
January 2020: Trump says The New York Times should fire columnist Paul Krugman, a winner of the Nobel Prize in economics, for having incorrectly predicted a global recession after Trump's victory in 2016.
May 2020: The day after Twitter appended a fact check link to dishonest Trump claims about mail-in voting, Trump threatens to shut down social media companies: "Republicans feel that Social Media Platforms totally silence conservatives voices. We will strongly regulate, or close them down, before we can ever allow this to happen."
May 2020: Trump seeks the firing of Chuck Todd, host of NBC's "Meet the Press," for the show playing a misleadingly shortened clip of comments by Attorney General William Barr. (Todd apologized, saying it was an inadvertent mistake.) Again broaching the power of the state, Trump tags the accounts of the Federal Communications Commission, which regulates television, and its chairman, Ajit Pai.
 
blackascoal said:
Listening to all the right-wing noise about being “censored “ from posting on social media platforms they did not create just gets dumber by the hour. No one has a right to post on any platform at any time. Posting is granted based on your adherence to terms of use, and anyone can be banned from posting for as long as the platform creators choose to ban you if you choose to ignore the terms that granted you access.

One would think this concept would be pretty simple and easy to understand, but it isn’t for people who cannot figure out how voting machines and elections work. They’d rather whine like babies and feign butt-hurt insult than simply adhere to the rules. They’d rather claim they have no other way to communicate unless platform owners give them access to users that they themselves did not gather. And they believe they have a right to say whatever they want to say under the guise of “freedom of speech” while they take no responsibility for the guidelines that the owners must follow.

Those making such claims are ignorant babies and should be ignored.
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Is there anyone who doesn’t get that?

Yes, Big Tech has every right to play information Gate Keepers and affect election outcomes.

That doesn’t make it a good thing for democracy. Everyone is concerned about our democracy, right?
 
Drummie123 said:
It is hard for some of you to understand how this should work, but it is simple to grasp if you apply the rules that existed when Alexander Graham Bell started the phone system.

He could have regulated the content and conduct of the discussions but he believed that his invention was simply a device which enabled the 1st Amendment rights to be exercised. He did not have the right to use his machine to abridge the rights of the users to say whatever they wished.
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That's nice. So what?

You're using some device, plus an ISP, to access this site. You have no right to use this site for whatever you want; the owner has set forth terms of service. So has your ISP. Violate them at your peril. Use your phone instead. See how easy that is? You still have your right to say whatever you like; you simply cannot do it on a site that doesn't belong to you, if what you want to say violates the TOS of that site.
 
Darth Omar said:
Is there anyone who doesn’t get that?

Yes, Big Tech has every right to play information Gate Keepers and affect election outcomes.

That doesn’t make it a good thing for democracy. Everyone is concerned about our democracy, right?
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Excellent! I too am in favor of disallowing the huge bombardment of political ads we see during election time.
 
Darth Omar said:
Is there anyone who doesn’t get that?

Yes, Big Tech has every right to play information Gate Keepers and affect election outcomes.

That doesn’t make it a good thing for democracy. Everyone is concerned about our democracy, right?
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You do not have he ight to spread FALSE PROPAGANDA.

What's so hard to understand about that???
 
ThatOwlWoman said:
That's nice. So what?

You're using some device, plus an ISP, to access this site. You have no right to use this site for whatever you want; the owner has set forth terms of service. So has your ISP. Violate them at your peril. Use your phone instead. See how easy that is? You still have your right to say whatever you like; you simply cannot do it on a site that doesn't belong to you, if what you want to say violates the TOS of that site.
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I’m not sure what it would take for it to happen and we’ll never see it—but, if the tech *oligarchs* ever happen to become staunch conservatives and start shadow banning, ‘fact’ checking and etc liberals....omg, the caterwauling would be deafening lol.

And entertaining.
 
Darth Omar said:
False by whose reckoning?

When did we vote for a Ministry of Truth?
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There are things in this world that are demonstrably false.

Examples:

The sky is green.

Gravity does not exist.

Human beings have three arms.

The 2020 election was rigged against Trump in favor of Biden.

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All things which are obviously false.^^^^

And BTW.... a question I have seen asked but never answered:

If Democrats rigged the election in favor of their Presidential candidate and used fake ballots to do so, why did Republicans i down ballot races pick up seats?

Why doesn't Biden have a much larger majority in both houses of Congress?

If the Democrats were going to rig the election, why didn't they rig the Congressional races too?

Why won't you lying filth bags answer that?
 
blackascoal said:
Listening to all the right-wing noise about being “censored “ from posting on social media platforms they did not create just gets dumber by the hour. No one has a right to post on any platform at any time. Posting is granted based on your adherence to terms of use, and anyone can be banned from posting for as long as the platform creators choose to ban you if you choose to ignore the terms that granted you access.

One would think this concept would be pretty simple and easy to understand, but it isn’t for people who cannot figure out how voting machines and elections work. They’d rather whine like babies and feign butt-hurt insult than simply adhere to the rules. They’d rather claim they have no other way to communicate unless platform owners give them access to users that they themselves did not gather. And they believe they have a right to say whatever they want to say under the guise of “freedom of speech” while they take no responsibility for the guidelines that the owners must follow.

Those making such claims are ignorant babies and should be ignored.
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230 must be altered to force platform companies adhere to legal speech standards.

the privatization of the commons demands these reasonable safeguards.

anything else is totalitarianism.
 
Nomad said:
There are things in this world that are demonstrably false.

Examples:

The sky is green.

Gravity does not exist.

Human beings have three arms.

The 2020 election was rigged against Trump in favor of Biden.

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All things which are obviously false.^^^^

And BTW.... a question I have seen asked but never answered:

If Democrats rigged the election in favor of their Presidential candidate and used fake ballots to do so, why did Republicans i down ballot races pick up seats?

Why doesn't Biden have a much larger majority in both houses of Congress?

If the Democrats were going to rig the election, why didn't they rig the Congressional races too?

Why won't you lying filth bags answer that?
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many fake ballots only had the presidential race filled in.
 
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