Climate change discussion

[Into the Night]

Pompous twat.

Insult fallacies.

 

[Into the Night]

I'll ask the same question I used to ask the climate alarmists back the day at fullpolitics and even at politics.com: How much of climate warming are humans responsible for?

I've provided the evidence that the ocean heat cycles are responsible for 80% of climate changes.

Climate doesn't change. Climate has no quantity. There is nothing that can change.

 

[Into the Night]

lets just explore your last comment, the link between pollution and climate that the left insists on.

if they did not claim that link why do they push electric cars, windmills, solar panels etc? They claim that those things will reduce the pollution created by hydrocarbons and therefore stop, or reverse climate change. So you are incorrect in that claim. Concur on that and we shall explore your next error.

Apparently you are not aware that the idiot liberals are NOW saying that the reduced pollution caused by inactivity due to covid19 is causing global warming.

Fucked if you do and fucked if you don't.

 

[Into the Night]

The dirty secret of the climate scam is that CO2 concentration is a result of ocean temperatures and the ability of water to absorb the CO2 present in the atmosphere, with cooler waters increasing absorption and drawing down the concentration.

CO2 rise is a result of warming, not the cause.
The extra CO2 we add is not responsible for climate change

It is actually not possible to measure the global atmospheric concentration of CO2. CO2 is not uniformly distributed in the atmosphere. We don't have anywhere near enough monitoring stations. The data from the Mauna Loa observatory is compromised by nearby volcanic activity.

It is not possible to measure the temperature of the Earth. We don't know if it's warming, cooling, or just staying the same. Assuming a constant Sun and a constant distance from it, the temperature of Earth will not change.

 

[Into the Night]

with all of the lefties the solution to "climate change" is always for humanity to stop using hydrocarbons. they say that hydrocarbons pollute the air and water and thereby CAUSE climate change. So the attempt to link them is obvious, even though it is unproven and hypothetical.

what could be more specific? those are the things that they say will "fix" the "problem".

as to how many humans have the defective liberal gene. I think the research shows it to be around 40%. and it is a defective gene, its been identified as DRD4. Look it up, you might learn something

The Church of Global Warming denies science, specifically:

The 1st law of thermodynamics. It is not possible to create or destroy energy, but the Church of Global Warming insists it is possible to create energy out of a magick Holy Gas.
The 2nd law of thermodynamics. It is not possible to reduce entropy, but the Church of Global Warming insists that you can use a magick Holy Gas that is colder than the surface to warm the surface.
The Stefan-Boltzmann law. It is not possible to trap light, but the Church of Global Warming insists that you can trap light using a magick Holy Gas, and thereby trap energy, bouncing it back and forth from the Magick Holy Gas to the surface endlessly.

The Church of Global Warming also denies mathematics, specifically:
Statistical mathematics, by using data that is biased, or just flat made up out of thick air.
Probability mathematics, by characterizing 'data' as a probability without specifying a boundary.
Random number mathematics, by attempting to use statistical mathematics as some kind of Holy Oracle. Statistical mathematics has no capability to predict, due to it's use of random numbers.

 

[Into the Night]

Weather is, of course, an expression of climate.

Reversal fallacy.

Read some paleo-climatology. Don't say anything else quite so stupid until you have.

Buzzword fallacy. There is no such thing as 'paleo-climatology'.

 

[Into the Night]

Goodbye redfish,

I have had quite enough.

Well THAT didn't take long, like usual.

A little closer look at your reasoning and you get testy? Apparently you don't like having someone point out flaws in your position. You won't accept human-caused climate change because it isn't proven, but then you believe nonsense about the left being 'inferior' without any proof. Quite duplicitous.

You were preaching, not making any counter-arguments.

This is where I need to cut you off.

No, it is YOU cutting YOURSELF off. Everyone here can still talk about you behind your back.

You've just demonstrated and explained that you do not respect me,

Inversion fallacy. It is YOU that does not respect any opinion but your own.

and you think there is some scientific reason that makes it OK to be condescending.

It is YOU that is ignoring the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics and the Stefan-Boltzmann law. You cannot just discard a theory of science.

If I don't cut you off right now I am giving tacit approval for you to continue the down-talking.

Again, YOU are down talking right now. Why are YOU the only allowed to down talk anyone here?

And besides, I've heard it all before.

These laws of science haven't changed. The mathematics that you deny hasn't changed.

I like learning things but there is nothing I want to learn from you.

I hope you are comfortable in your illiteracy.

I have no desire to be part of an abuser/enabler relationship.

You make an argument of the Stick, insult people, take offense at any differing opinion to yours, and have the gall to say you don't want to be part of abuse???

I'll gladly talk politics with anyone of any view as long as the discussion remains mutually respectful.

You don't respect anyone. You have quite probably the largest ignore list on JPP.

I wish you well, hope you have an enjoyable life, but I know mine will be more enjoyable without you in it. You are permanently Ignored.

Thank you for removing yourself from the conversation, once again.

To redfish: welcome to a club with LOTS of members.

 

[moon]

Into the Night Soil

Climate doesn't change

 

[moon]

Into the Night Soil

There is no such thing as 'paleo-climatology'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology

 

[Sammy Jankis]

Nope. Communism is government ownership of markets.

governments help control the markets on behalf of their private corporation friends.it monopoly/cartel capitalism., with a state seal on it.

 

[moon]

governments help control the markets on behalf of their private corporation friends.it monopoly/cartel capitalism., with a state seal on it.

In worse case scenarios the corporations control the government .

 

[Sammy Jankis]

In worse case scenarios the corporations control the government .

it's always that way. governments form when cartels get together and put a state seal on their vile alliance.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

but there is a positive version of people uniting for mutual benefit.

corporations and governments hate that.

fascists hate legitimate human love.

 

[redfish]

Weather is, of course, an expression of climate.



Read some paleo-climatology. Don't say anything else quite so stupid until you have.

NO, weather is not an expression of climate. look the words up in a real dictionary

I have probably read twice as much as you have on climate and history and geology. You lefties are claiming that human activity is changing the climate today, so I think its fair to ask you what caused the hundreds of climate changes over the life of our planet.

 

[Sammy Jankis]

NO, weather is not an expression of climate. look the words up in a real dictionary

I have probably read twice as much as you have on climate and history and geology. You lefties are claiming that human activity is changing the climate today, so I think its fair to ask you what caused the hundreds of climate changes over the life of our planet.

these people are idiots who think a cnn blurb on "scientific community concensus" means something.

 

[redfish]

Apparently you are not aware that the idiot liberals are NOW saying that the reduced pollution caused by inactivity due to covid19 is causing global warming.

Fucked if you do and fucked if you don't.

liberalism is a mental disease, they prove it every day. Its also proven that liberals have a defective gene, its been identified as DRD4. Look it up.

 

[cancel2 2022]

NO, weather is not an expression of climate. look the words up in a real dictionary

I have probably read twice as much as you have on climate and history and geology. You lefties are claiming that human activity is changing the climate today, so I think its fair to ask you what caused the hundreds of climate changes over the life of our planet.

Moonatic is a Marxist loon, ignore the bitch!

 

[moon]

NO, weather is not an expression of climate. look the words up in a real dictionary

Did that. Weather is definitely an expression of climate.

I have probably read twice as much as you have on climate and history and geology.

No- I have probably read four-and -a-half times as much as you .


Haw, haw....................................haw.

 

[moon]

Why do discussions on proven climatic disorder attract stumblebum eccentrics like redfish and maggot ?
They just line up to look silly.

 

[Micawber]

Climate change has not changed, this is a non subject. The only subject worth discussing is how much are we willing to do about it.