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BidenPresident said:
This is a trial, as defined by the Constitution.,
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It's not a trial. This has nothing to do with impeachment. It's a public showcase of Democrat insecurities.

And Article III, Section 2, Clause 3 provides that trials, "except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by jury." :cool:
 
BidenPresident said:
Impeachment is not a criminal charge.
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Correct.

Watching David Schoen see his own career and soul go down in flames is entertainment.

FWIW, Trump is as guilty as OJ but he'll walk like OJ too.

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BidenPresident said:
Time for you to read the US Constitution.
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You need jurisdiction. Go arrest him.

Article I Section 3 Clause 7

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office,
and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the
United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to
Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
 
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Tuesday, Feb. 9: Senate vote on constitutionality. First, the Senate will vote on whether they have the jurisdiction to actually hold a former president's trial. This will happen after four hours of argument on the Senate floor, where each senator can state their reasoning.

Wednesday/ Thursday, Feb. 10 and 11th: Prosecution opening arguments begin. Impeachment managers from the House of Representatives will each make their case against Trump. These cases can take no longer than 16 hours of argument total, which is likely to be spread out over two days.

Friday, Feb. 12, potentially Sunday: Defensive opening arguments begin. This is where Trump's legal team can state their ground, using the same amount of time as the prosecution to make their opening arguments. If the arguments are still going after sundown on Friday, the trial will resume Sunday (Saturday is off-limits to honor the Sabbath.)

Sunday/ Monday, February 15: Senators ask their own questions. These questions aren't limited to one side or the other -- they can ask them to the House impeachment managers' side, or to Trump's legal team. It's an up to four-hour chance for Senators to get more information and clear up any questions of their own that they might not have been able to ask.

Week of February 15: Debating over witnesses. The House impeachment managers can call witnesses, which depending on how many and if they decide to, can slow down the process. The Senate would need to approve and depose witnesses before they can actually testify.
If no witnesses called, a potential conclusion next week: The last step to the process would be for the Senate to move to their final vote.
 
Stretch said:
You need jurisdiction. Go arrest him.

Article I Section 3 Clause 7

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office,
and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the
United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to
Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.
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The part you bolded is followed by an "and"...
 
Stretch said:
Tuesday, Feb. 9: Senate vote on constitutionality. First, the Senate will vote on whether they have the jurisdiction to actually hold a former president's trial. This will happen after four hours of argument on the Senate floor, where each senator can state their reasoning.

Wednesday/ Thursday, Feb. 10 and 11th: Prosecution opening arguments begin. Impeachment managers from the House of Representatives will each make their case against Trump. These cases can take no longer than 16 hours of argument total, which is likely to be spread out over two days.

Friday, Feb. 12, potentially Sunday: Defensive opening arguments begin. This is where Trump's legal team can state their ground, using the same amount of time as the prosecution to make their opening arguments. If the arguments are still going after sundown on Friday, the trial will resume Sunday (Saturday is off-limits to honor the Sabbath.)

Sunday/ Monday, February 15: Senators ask their own questions. These questions aren't limited to one side or the other -- they can ask them to the House impeachment managers' side, or to Trump's legal team. It's an up to four-hour chance for Senators to get more information and clear up any questions of their own that they might not have been able to ask.

Week of February 15: Debating over witnesses. The House impeachment managers can call witnesses, which depending on how many and if they decide to, can slow down the process. The Senate would need to approve and depose witnesses before they can actually testify.
If no witnesses called, a potential conclusion next week: The last step to the process would be for the Senate to move to their final vote.
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Team Trump royally fucked up yesterday. Let's see what happens today.
 
Stretch said:
Correct. Both SHALL NOT occur in this case because he was never removed from Office in the 1st place.
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"Shall not extend further" means that both do not have to occur. In fact using this statement alone neither has to occur for the statement to remain true. The only reason we know that removal always happens if the person is still in office is the later phrase that mandates removal if they currently hold office.

If a law says the sentence for a crime shall not exceed 5 years in jail and a $10,000 fine, does that mean the only sentence upon conviction is 5 years in jail and a $10,000 fine? A fifth grader could tell that is not the case. Are you smarter than a fifth grader, Stretch?
 
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