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Don Quixote

Don Quixote

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as bac pointed out, this area has been abused by other nations (see link)

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/af...223218644.html

now that the u s of a has gotten involved what further deaths will follow. maybe invasions of pirate strongholds will be next

but what about the somalis that are just trying to survive...

or will the rest of the world treat it as just another problem out of africa

ps i like the captain's family's response to the press (leave us alone)
 
The pirates get safe haven by giving things to the local populations. It would be cheaper to simply help out Somalia more directly.
 
Damocles said:
The pirates get safe haven by giving things to the local populations. It would be cheaper to simply help out Somalia more directly.
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Just got finished watching Charlie Wilson's war. At the end he asks for a paltry 1 million dollars to build schools in post Soviet Afghanistan and other congressmen on the committee said there was no reason to send them money, The soviets were gone. This is American foreign policy at its worst. We never follow through with shit. By abandoning the Afghans after the Soviets left, we created the Taliban.
 
Socrtease said:
Just got finished watching Charlie Wilson's war. At the end he asks for a paltry 1 million dollars to build schools in post Soviet Afghanistan and other congressmen on the committee said there was no reason to send them money, The soviets were gone. This is American foreign policy at its worst. We never follow through with shit. By abandoning the Afghans after the Soviets left, we created the Taliban.
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True. The US generally doesn't have any idea how stupid our foreign policy really is and how much it costs us.
 
Now that the captain has been rescued and the "pirates" that took him are dead, what will the US do next?

Will we insist on a UN Resolution that protects Somali waters from global dumping and its fishing industry from global rape?

I doubt it.

Obama has a clear choice here, but Larry Summers, the subhuman thing that told the world to dump toxic wastes off Africa while he was at the World Bank is one of Obama's closest advisors.

Perhaps some are starting to get an understanding of why I do not support Obama.
 
blackascoal said:
Now that the captain has been rescued and the "pirates" that took him are dead, what will the US do next?

Will we insist on a UN Resolution that protects Somali waters from global dumping and its fishing industry from global rape?

I doubt it.

Obama has a clear choice here, but Larry Summers, the subhuman thing that told the world to dump toxic wastes off Africa while he was at the World Bank is one of Obama's closest advisors.

Perhaps some are starting to get an understanding of why I do not support Obama.
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He couldn't even get a resolution passed that condemned N. Korea for showing off their newest bomb delivery device. Russia refused to even suggest they had done something wrong.

We sat by and did nothing, watched instead of acted in any way, then couldn't even get a resolution through the Security Council. Yeah, we looked like a "manly" nation...
 
Damocles said:
He couldn't even get a resolution passed that condemned N. Korea for showing off their newest bomb delivery device. Russia refused to even suggest they had done something wrong.

We sat by and did nothing, watched instead of acted in any way, then couldn't even get a resolution through the Security Council. Yeah, we looked like a "manly" nation...
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We looked real "manly" as we marched off to Iraq in shiny new uniforms being all we could be .. which resulted in the greatest strategic and military blunder in America history. The Bay of Pigs is miniscule compared to this tragedy.

We looked real "manly" as we marched off to Vietnam .. 60,000 dead Americans later .. we're running for our lives out of Saigon .. tail between our legs.

We look manly in Afghanistan .. where we're bound to see another Saigon Moment.

Somalia is no stranger to us .. we've had a bit of a Saigon Moment there as well.

Looking "manly" is not synonymous with acting intelligently.

We have a propensity to do the manly, reject the intelligent.

There are limits to military power.

A reality we have rarely understood, even when it fails right in front of our eyes.

I agree with you that he couldn't get a resolution on NK ..but that should not stop his attempts at leadership.
 
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Damocles said:
He couldn't even get a resolution passed that condemned N. Korea for showing off their newest bomb delivery device. Russia refused to even suggest they had done something wrong.

We sat by and did nothing, watched instead of acted in any way, then couldn't even get a resolution through the Security Council. Yeah, we looked like a "manly" nation...
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you mean the smaller more helpless the easier target the more likely the action against them
 
blackascoal said:
We looked real "manly" as we marched off to Iraq in shiny new uniforms being all we could be .. which resulted in the greatest strategic and military blunder in America history. The Bay of Pigs is miniscule compared to this tragedy.

We looked real "manly" as we marched off to Vietnam .. 60,000 dead Americans later .. we're running for our lives out of Saigon .. tail between our legs.

We look manly in Afghanistan .. where we're bound to see another Saigon Moment.

Somalia is no stranger to us .. we've had a bit of a Saigon Moment there as well.

Looking "manly" is not synonymous with acting intelligently.

We have a propensity to do the manly, reject the intelligent.

There are limits to military power.

A reality we have rarely understood, even when it fails right in front of our eyes.

I agree with you that he couldn't get a resolution on NK ..but that should not stop his attempts at leadership.
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We didn't look "manly" marching into Iraq to protect ourselves against WMD that aren't even WMD in reality.

But when the government stands by and does nothing but talk, then can't even back up a threat of a resolution, it truly looks weak.
 
Damocles said:
We didn't look "manly" marching into Iraq to protect ourselves against WMD that aren't even WMD in reality.

But when the government stands by and does nothing but talk, then can't even back up a threat of a resolution, it truly looks weak.
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I agree with you .. but we look weak because wea ARE weak.

We are weak because we too often rush to look "manly."

"You're either with us or against us."

The tough cowboys from the west .. who often gets their asses kicked by small countries using bamboo and sticks.

There are limits to military power.
 
Socrtease said:
Just got finished watching Charlie Wilson's war. At the end he asks for a paltry 1 million dollars to build schools in post Soviet Afghanistan and other congressmen on the committee said there was no reason to send them money, The soviets were gone. This is American foreign policy at its worst. We never follow through with shit. By abandoning the Afghans after the Soviets left, we created the Taliban.
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The worst part of our policy was that we chose to funnel the money into Afghanistan through Pakistan. The Pakistani's got to choose who received the weapons, and they selectively gave them overwhelmingly to radicals such as the Taliban. When the Soviets left, the Taliban was left holding all of the weapons. At that point, funding for infrastructure, while very important, was a nonissue, seeing as how it would have been the Taliban running those schools.
 
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