nano Thermite found in all 911 dust samples

Yurt said:
they got bombs in here in 93....

and thank you for being honest that it is possible....

maybe i missed it, but have you blamed anyone else other than the US government for placing the alleged bombs? or have you gone after one suspect only?
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Thank you brother for an excellent question.

Without any question members of the Bush Administration HAD to be complict.

Even to the question of whether they allowed it to happen or were they were directly involved in making it happen, there is only one logical conclusion. You cannot "allow" the impossible to happen.

You cannot allow non-pilots to execute flight manuevers combat pilots cannot do or fly giant planes inches of the ground.

You cannot allow giant planes to crash into buildings and only make a 16by14 ft hole, and leave no bodies, luggage, seats, tail, wings, or 7ft tall engines scattered all over the ground .. then have the plane magically disappear into thin air.

You cannot "allow" that shit to happen.

Even if they allowed "terrorists" to do this, why not show the world the pictures of the plane with the cameras on the Pentagon and from the gas station across the street?

Ooops, can't do that because no plane hit the Pentagon.

You can't allow "terrorists" to hit the Pentagon with a missle or Global Hawk and fool everbody into believing it was a giant ass airplane.

I could go on and on and on .. because there are a thousand unanswered questions and impossibilities.

But to your question, although I put no name of face to this fraud, there is no doubt that the Bush Administration was deeply involved.

Question: You've been given warnings FROM EVERYWHERE WITHIN AND WITHOUT THE US about an impending attack on American soil .. even given the specific area where the attack will take place. Why would you leave that CRITICAL specific area completely unguarded?

Add to that, you had an FBI informant living with two of the hijackers for over a year.

Add to that, the very moment the WTC site cools down, you rush in and collect every bit of critical evidence and haul it off to China with the quickness .. without any thorough crime scene investigation .. which is by the way, against the law.

Sane and reasonable minds will draw their own conclusions.
 
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Damocles said:
Not particularly, especially the government that was in power at that time.

My position is science is correct, and have stated it and given links to studies and experts, including the very studies that are taken out of context and "misinterpreted" by your "Dr." Jones.

It hasn't been "hard" to argue this, in fact it has been quite easy. It's pretty much restating things over and over with different sources saying the same thing and patiently repeating answers that you have said didn't exist.

The dishonesty lies in the out of context statements of studies that are shown not to say what the good "Dr." says they do. I don't know what has crippled your mind, but I do know that the government as it was then, or even as it is now is not your ideal and you distrust it. So do I. I just don't let that get in the way of facts and evidence before me or critical thought. While the idea of government conspiracy is something that isn't foreign to me, the only way they conspired here was to cover their mistakes at what should have been easier to spot and stop....
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Damo my brother, my friend.

You are not looking for answers or truth, you're looking for excuses .. you aren't even using truth in your responses.

What science supports the fairy-tale? .. and don't give me "I already said it" or "go find it."

When I'm asked a question I don't tell you I've already said it .. I smash that truth right in your face and show you specifically what I'm talking about .. because I'm confident of what I'm saying and I dare you to challenge it.

How are the statements from the engineers who built and designed the towers "links?"

You're still looking for Santa Claus brother .. but he ain't coming.

Yes, your government, specifically the administration of George Bush, was involved in the events of 9/11.

Time to grow up.
 
blackascoal said:
Damo my brother, my friend.

You are not looking for answers or truth, you're looking for excuses .. you aren't even using truth in your responses.

What science supports the fairy-tale? .. and don't give me "I already said it" or "go find it."

When I'm asked a question I don't tell you I've already said it .. I smash that truth right in your face and show you specifically what I'm talking about .. because I'm confident of what I'm saying and I dare you to challenge it.

How are the statements from the engineers who built and designed the towers "links?"

You're still looking for Santa Claus brother .. but he ain't coming.

Yes, your government, specifically the administration of George Bush, was involved in the events of 9/11.

Time to grow up.
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What science supports what I have stated? As I have said, you simply pretend the information given doesn't exist. Read the thread again, actually go through and read the links, even the reports the "Dr." misquotes and pulls out of context were used to discount your thermite theory.

It simply isn't supported by the actual evidence.

Shoot, we can read the report written by people whose job it is to actually blow up buildings...

http://ae911truth.info/pdf/blanchard_implosion.pdf

Read it. Please. Many demolition experts have spoken on the subject.

Earlier somebody posted "9/11 Architects and Engineers for Truth"... as if it was a source of expertise, yet on their very own website they state that this and these buildings are outside their expertise.

Then there are still more experts, who are not in the employ of the government who speak about WTC 7.

http://www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz-Nov07.pdf

Skepticism, not credulity, is the hallmark of science.
 
Damocles said:
Read the thread. Please. So you can quit being so repetitively ignorant. Long ago I said, "If the government did this, it didn't use thermite for the myriad reasons listed."

Anything is possible, except thermite because it would be impossible to cover up, it would have been the smoking gun, it leaves far more than traces of elements in dust that make its use obvious, I pointed those out then people tried to use pictures that show no steel melting to try to say steel "melted", on and on it goes.... Amazing how people who are so awesome at conspiracy would be so inept in their choices.

I then stated that I think many in the government covered stuff so they wouldn't appear so inept. What I think happened is that terrorists did this, and that we will never have every answer because some inept government employees covered up stuff to hide their total lack of ability and to keep their job.

You are being a tool, unable to think at all because distrust has led you into the inept bumbling of the Jones crowd. Discredited, dishonest, shown to be taking things out of context and to be simply wrong directly yet encumbered by the truth they trudge on, with a following of the credulous willing to believe anything if only it says something bad about the government. The worse, the better. Sometimes the truth is bad enough, without all the inane additions of magical thermite that leaves no trace but chemicals in dust.
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If it's really so ridiculous it was an inside job, you wouldn't be so obsessed with perpetuating the statist lie.
 
Damocles said:
What science supports what I have stated? As I have said, you simply pretend the information given doesn't exist. Read the thread again, actually go through and read the links, even the reports the "Dr." misquotes and pulls out of context were used to discount your thermite theory.

It simply isn't supported by the actual evidence.

Shoot, we can read the report written by people whose job it is to actually blow up buildings...

http://ae911truth.info/pdf/blanchard_implosion.pdf

Read it. Please. Many demolition experts have spoken on the subject.

Earlier somebody posted "9/11 Architects and Engineers for Truth"... as if it was a source of expertise, yet on their very own website they state that this and these buildings are outside their expertise.

Then there are still more experts, who are not in the employ of the government who speak about WTC 7.

http://www.structuremag.org/Archives/2007-11/SF-WTC7-Gilsanz-Nov07.pdf

Skepticism, not credulity, is the hallmark of science.
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Much has been undeniably exposed during the course of this conversation .. including the fact that you don't understand basic science.

Your side of the argument is silly, whether you accept that or not. There is a reason why more and more Americans .. ahh, make that the MAJORITY .. make that the VAST MAJORITY of Americans don't believe that bullshit.

Americans Question Bush on 9/11 Intelligence

When it comes to what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States, do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?

Telling the truth
May 2002 ......... 21%
Oct 2006 ......... 16%

Hiding something
May 2002 ......... 65%
Oct 2006 ......... 53%

Mostly lying
May 2002 ........ 8%
Oct 2006 ......... 28%

Not Sure
May 2002 ........ 6%
Oct 2006 ....... 3%
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/13469

None of that means anything to you. Let me hear some bullshit about "polls."

But what this and many other polls clearly demonstrate is the VAST majority of Americans don't believe that bullshit and that obviously includes a GREAT many people on your side of the political divide .. whatever side that may be. If that many Americans don't believe that bullshit, how do you think the rest of the planet views it?

Why don't they beleive it? .. Because they understand basic science .. and they aren't retarded.

THUS my brother, and in fact, your side of the argument is the real conspiracy theory. NOBODY BELIEVES THAT BULLSHIT .. BECAUSE ITS STUPID.

You've ignored what the people who actually built and designed the buildings had to say .. and there is no two ways about it .. that is unintelligent.

How does an intelligent guy like you become suddenly unintelligent?

Cognitive dissonance is the answer. It is a powerful retardant. It retards intelligent thought, logic, and even common sense from reaching the mind.

Simply put, it makes you retarded.

Time to grow up good brother.

Santa Claus ain't real.
 
blackascoal said:
Much has been undeniably exposed during the course of this conversation .. including the fact that you don't understand basic science.

Your side of the argument is silly, whether you accept that or not. There is a reason why more and more Americans .. ahh, make that the MAJORITY .. make that the VAST MAJORITY of Americans don't believe that bullshit.

Americans Question Bush on 9/11 Intelligence

When it comes to what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States, do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?

Telling the truth
May 2002 ......... 21%
Oct 2006 ......... 16%

Hiding something
May 2002 ......... 65%
Oct 2006 ......... 53%

Mostly lying
May 2002 ........ 8%
Oct 2006 ......... 28%

Not Sure
May 2002 ........ 6%
Oct 2006 ....... 3%
http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/13469

None of that means anything to you. Let me hear some bullshit about "polls."

But what this and many other polls clearly demonstrate is the VAST majority of Americans don't believe that bullshit and that obviously includes a GREAT many people on your side of the political divide .. whatever side that may be. If that many Americans don't believe that bullshit, how do you think the rest of the planet views it?

Why don't they beleive it? .. Because they understand basic science .. and they aren't retarded.

THUS my brother, and in fact, your side of the argument is the real conspiracy theory. NOBODY BELIEVES THAT BULLSHIT .. BECAUSE ITS STUPID.

You've ignored what the people who actually built and designed the buildings had to say .. and there is no two ways about it .. that is unintelligent.

How does an intelligent guy like you become suddenly unintelligent?

Cognitive dissonance is the answer. It is a powerful retardant. It retards intelligent thought, logic, and even common sense from reaching the mind.

Simply put, it makes you retarded.

Time to grow up good brother.

Santa Claus ain't real.
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What it means is that most people think as I do, that they are hiding something. That poll certainly doesn't mean people believe in the magic thermite faerie who poops thermite that leaves nothing but trace elements in dust behind unlike every other type of thermite on the planet.

Almost everybody believes the government is hiding something, shocker. Just as I said they were. It's silly to make the poll say it means that your thermite theory is accepted by everybody.

If something more were used to take down the buildings, it simply wasn't thermite.
 
Damocles said:
What it means is that most people think as I do, that they are hiding something. That poll certainly doesn't mean people believe in the magic thermite faerie who poops thermite that leaves nothing but trace elements in dust behind unlike every other type of thermite on the planet.

Almost everybody believes the government is hiding something, shocker. Just as I said they were. It's silly to make the poll say it means that your thermite theory is accepted by everybody.

If something more were used to take down the buildings, it simply wasn't thermite.
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Yes, but your "hiding their own incompetence" theory is stupider than really stupid feces.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Yes, but your "hiding their own incompetence" theory is stupider than really stupid feces.
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Rubbish, it's reasonable and understandable that people do not want to be the "reason" that these people were able to perpetrate this and will do much to hide their part in it, even if it is solely in ineptitude.

The idiots are the ones who think magic thermite was there and that the pancaked floors are "meteorites" on their site. Seriously, the guy actually has pictures of the floors crammed together on his site at the same time is saying that no such pictures exist and calls them "Meteorites"...

Augh...

And people still follow the idiot as if he had some insight. He can't even recognize what he is looking at. One of the pictures he has of "molten rusty metal" is concrete and plastics compressed together in strata layers... It isn't even metal.
 
Damocles said:
Rubbish, it's reasonable and understandable that people do not want to be the "reason" that these people were able to perpetrate this and will do much to hide their part in it, even if it is solely in ineptitude.

The idiots are the ones who think magic thermite was there and that the pancaked floors are "meteorites" on their site. Seriously, the guy actually has pictures of the floors crammed together on his site at the same time is saying that no such pictures exist and calls them "Meteorites"...

Augh...

And people still follow the idiot as if he had some insight. He can't even recognize what he is looking at. One of the pictures he has of "molten rusty metal" is concrete and plastics compressed together in strata layers... It isn't even metal.
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Sure. The ineptitude argument is a winner. Stick with that.


you defeat yourself.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Sure. The ineptitude argument is a winner. Stick with that.


you defeat yourself.
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Bankrupt of ideas, Asshat? This isn't argument, it's surrender. All you give is, "I have nothing to add, I'm not even good at ad hominems." Stick with that, it's what you are "best" at...
 
Damocles said:
Bankrupt of ideas, Asshat? This isn't argument, it's surrender. All you give is, "I have nothing to add, I'm not even good at ad hominems." Stick with that, it's what you are "best" at...
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No. It's just amusing to watch you contort reality to suit your narrow fascist agenda.

The 'coverup of incompetence' theory makes you laughable.
 
AssHatZombie said:
What things do you think they did to coverup their ineptitude?
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For that you'll need to actually read the thread. I'm done with repeating things because you "can't remember" five posts ago and want to pretend nobody else can either.

It's like the Knights who say Ni, you just want another shrubbery, and another one, and to cut down the largest tree in the forest with a herring...

All for a guy who has yet to submit any evidence at all for any idea. AHZ, you're like a little kid standing next to your brother shouting "Yeah!" with nothing to add of your own. Bankrupt of ideas, all you have is the constant repetition that this was "totally an inside job", and a weak attack plan at people who point out the flaws in others reasoning...

There's got to be a "noahide" thread somewhere, at least there you have your own ideas to post, here you have nothing.
 
Damocles said:
For that you'll need to actually read the thread. I'm done with repeating things because you "can't remember" five posts ago and want to pretend nobody else can either.

It's like the Knights who say Ni, you just want another shrubbery, and another one, and to cut down the largest tree in the forest with a herring...

All for a guy who has yet to submit any evidence at all for any idea. AHZ, you're like a little kid standing next to your brother shouting "Yeah!" with nothing to add of your own. Bankrupt of ideas, all you have is the constant repetition that this was "totally an inside job", and a weak attack plan at people who point out the flaws in others reasoning...

There's got to be a "noahide" thread somewhere, at least there you have your own ideas to post, here you have nothing.
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I knew you wouldn't post anything of substance. What did they do to "coverup their incompetence". Just name one thing. Im asking for one additional phrase.
 
AssHatZombie said:
I knew you wouldn't post anything of substance. What did they do to "coverup their incompetence". Just name one thing. Im asking for one additional phrase.
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Says the man who hasn't posted anything other than this type of silly attack. "You must bring us ANOTHER SHRUBBERY!"

The little man standing next to his better shouting, "Yeah!"... I can even picture you holding the pant leg with the thumb in your mouth.

Either read the thread and find out what I have said, or go away, you are insignificant in this discussion, you have added nothing.
 
Damocles said:
Says the man who hasn't posted anything other than this type of silly attack...

The little man standing next to his better shouting, "Yeah!"... I can even picture you holding the pant leg with the thumb in your mouth.

Either read the thread and find out what I have said, or go away, you are insignificant in this discussion, you have added nothing.
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Just post one additional sentence. if you can't do that you have wussed out.


What is ONE THING they did to hide their incompetence?
 
AssHatZombie said:
Just post one additional sentence. if you can't do that you have wussed out.


What is ONE THING they did to hide their incompetence?
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There are many more than what you are pretending I have stated. Read the thread, laziness is not a form of "argument".

I'll even give you time. Once again. I'll come back to the thread to see if you have brought forward anything at all other than these silly demands for "still more" from the one person who hasn't added one idea to the thread.
 
So why is damo pussing out on this? because "er umm, they were Hiding their own incompetence" is just something he throws out when he sees people pecking through the eggshell of government lies.
 
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