the AR-15 follies: Here we go again!

[Taichiliberal]

IMO, ALL WEAPONS OF WAR AND MASS DESTRUCTION, SUCH AS THE AR15 AND OTHER SUCH TOYS, SHOULD BE BANNED, IRRESPECTIVE OF MENTAL STATE OF BEING.

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE THEIR PURPOSE OTHER THAN WHAT THEY ARE USED FOR, THE SLAUGHTER OF INNOCENT PEOPLE?

Problem with that philosophy is that you incorporate over 90% of all guns and rifles that exists. The law of the 2nd Amendment allows for the general public to be armed to form a decent militia as a preventative to a tyrannical gov't. As weapons changed and became more prolific, state and federal laws changed, and then we came to the 1994 AWB, etc., etc.

My grandmother said in the 1969 that black folk should buy as many hunting rifles and guns that they can because "the white folk are going to make it illegal, unless you're in the army". 50 years later, it hasn't happened. But her fear was real based on her experiences....her grandmother was a slave, her mother damned near under Jim Crow.

The jokers on this thread parroting the SOS have a shyte load of weapons to choose from, their childish rants since the sunset of the 1994 AWB is just that, childish.

I got no problem with law abiding citizens owning registered weapons....it's this "I want any type of gun I want, I want to carry it where ever I go, to sell it to anyone I want and have NO over site from state or federal gov't." That's a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[Taichiliberal]

bullshit, if anything more people would've died after being shot by fellow shoppers who were shooting at the shooter

you need to think theses things though

You're dealing with the quintessential smoke blowing right wing chickenhawk....this Oather/Threeper has been talking smack for years and had an icon that stated his membership/beliefs. The Jan. 6th happened, junior disappears for a bit, and then comes back with a different icon. He now denounces the insurrectionists but as you can see STILL parrots the SOS. This is why I have him on IA....but like a bitch in heat, he dogs my threads and posts seeking attention.

 

[Taichiliberal]

No. It's mainly the deterrent effect: IF a bad guy knows everyone is unarmed, that's to his advantage. If he doesn't know because citizens may be armed, that's a deterrent. Same thing with homeowners. People are fucking stupid to rob a house at night in Texas unless they know for a fact the residents are unarmed. Where would that be?

A secondary reason is that a person with a sidearm stands a better chance of surviving an active shooter than someone with nothing. As a former roommate in flight school once said after we'd watched a horror movie, "If I was him I'd be wishing real hard for a 45". I knew he meant that the guy was stupid for being unarmed in such a situation but it was funny to me at the time.

People have a right of self-defense. It, like life itself, is an inalienable right that can't be physically taken away except by an oppressor.

Regardless, I believe the right is still there. Do you?

Dude! Texas has burglary and home invasions on a yearly basis....they may not be on the top ten list in the country in this respect...but it happens. A simple google confirms that!

 

[blackascoal]

Name a few which weren't.

Still, the encroachment of your rights as a city person is up to you when voting about your city. That has nothing to do with my situation or the situation of millions of rural Americans.

Start with Columbine. I’ll have more for you in the morning. Watching a movie right now, but you know what? I’ve been around a long time but I’ve never once heard anyone on the right attribute any crime or supposed crime by anyone black be attributed to mental illness. Strange, huh?

So while I did up mass shootings, which we are rarely involved in, that are not attributed to selective and dubious mental illness, why don’t you find instances of where the right claims mental illness was the cause of murders by non-white people.

AND, aren’t you a democrat? How is it that you don’t know the fight that democrats have gone through to get ANY type of health care, including mental health care for the American people? How do you not know that?

HOUSE DEMOCRATS INTRODUCE MENTAL HEALTH REFORM BILL

HOUSE DEMOCRATS PUSH MENTAL HEALTH ALTERNATIVE
thehill.com

 

[Taichiliberal]

Where I live 911 is 20-30 minutes away. That's if they aren't tied up with an accident. What works for you is great. I support your right to live your life the way you want.

I live where I want and see your desire to ban semi-automatic rifles to be an overreach of Federal authority.

And yet there was a drop in crime overall in the year after 911.

 

[Taichiliberal]

Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
Oh stop playing dumber than you are.....you know damned well what I'm talking about. If you don't, I'll spell it out for you: You remove these weapons from the general population via stopping retailers & gun shows from selling them....you do that by specifically banning them. By legal precedent, anyone owning this type of weapon prior to the enactment of law can legally keep them...BUT THEY CAN'T SELL THEM!

CAPICE', buffoon?

A new addition would be to create a true working national network for universal background checks (that would include notice of psychological cases/commitment ) and registry of all weapons sales (like you do cars), so geniuses like you won't unknowingly sell to criminals all the mentally defective, and you have a better track of cross state buyers for criminal use.

If this doesn't clear things up, then I can't help you.

Won't happen. What makes you think those of us that have unregistered guns will register them?
Oh, and you did say "remove," check the dictionary to see what "remove' means...

And as the reader can see, RB60 is a intellectual coward....he can't concede a point, so he just ignores my explanation and puts forth yet another "what if"?

Well toodles, you and your buddies can hide all the weapons you want, create your secret meetings to sell or exchange to each other, etc., etc. Law enforcement does it job, catching law breakers every so often. My point here is that with a new AWB plus additions, MORE OF THESE PARTICULAR WEAPONS WILL NOT BE PUT OUT ON THE OPEN MARKET.

Got that, bunky? I hope so, because your insipid stubbornness is somewhat pathetic.

 

[RB 60]

Yeah, tell me about it! They even deny what it was originally designed for!

The AR-15 was specifically designed for civilian use. Originally designed in 1956, the trademark was sold to Colt in 1959.
The Colt AR-15 is closely related to the military M16 and M4 Carbine, many of the parts were changed but the basic
operating principles were retained, as most semi-automatic firearms operate on the same principal (like the Ruger 10/22).
It is the preference of many competitive shooters and used for target shooting by many others. It is mainly used in "mass
shootings" because of the media hype. If the media hyped the M1 Garand, assholes like the deranged millennials who use
the AR would use the M1, which is far more powerful than the AR and is easily reloaded in seconds.

 

[RB 60]

And as the reader can see, RB60 is a intellectual coward....he can't concede a point, so he just ignores my explanation and puts forth yet another "what if"?

Well toodles, you and your buddies can hide all the weapons you want, create your secret meetings to sell or exchange to each other, etc., etc. Law enforcement does it job, catching law breakers every so often. My point here is that with a new AWB plus additions, MORE OF THESE PARTICULAR WEAPONS WILL NOT BE PUT OUT ON THE OPEN MARKET.

Got that, bunky? I hope so, because your insipid stubbornness is somewhat pathetic.

Speaking of intellectually inept, here you are trying to cover for your lack of familiarity with the meaning of an often used word in the English language. But, don't blame me for your impotence.

My buddies and myself are hiding nothing. Our gun club meetings go on monthly as scheduled (a number law enforcement are members of my, and other gun clubs), so we aren't concerned.
A new AWB plus additions? What "additions" might they be?

Stubbornness? Yep, I'm stubborn. I'm old, I'm permitted to be stubborn, just like you are permitted to be incompetent, and pathetic at the same time.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

I have small bore centerfires in .220 Swift, .22-250, and .224 Weatherby magnum, all of which are vastly superior to 5.56mm NATO /.223 Remington in both velocity and energy.
Still, to this point, nobody has discussed banning them.
They look like works of art.
Polished hardwood stocks, find hand checkering, and exquisitely applied blueing [OK, the .220 Swift is stainless] make them so.

Aside from its butt-ugliness, the AR-15's stigma comes from the MAGA cap wearing types who like the ugly pieces of shit and carry them into state houses and super markets, apparently on the lookout for really persistent Viet Cong..
After having been forced to brandish one many decades ago, I wouldn't go near one now. [My son was also stuck with one in the 90s, and he wasn't even drafted.]
None of this, admittedly, is really relevant to a proposed assault rifle ban; it's just on top of it all.

 

[RB 60]

I have small bore centerfires in .220 Swift, .22-250, and .224 Weatherby magnum, all of which are vastly superior to 5.56mm NATO /.223 Remington in both velocity and energy.
Still, to this point, nobody has discussed banning them.
They look like works of art.
Polished hardwood stocks, find hand checkering, and exquisitely applied blueing [OK, the .220 Swift is stainless] make them so.

Aside from its butt-ugliness, the AR-15's stigma comes from the MAGA cap wearing types who like the ugly pieces of shit and carry them into state houses and super markets, apparently on the lookout for really persistent Viet Cong..
After having been forced to brandish one many decades ago, I wouldn't go near one now. [My son was also stuck with one in the 90s, and he wasn't even drafted.]
None of this, admittedly, is really relevant to a proposed assault rifle ban; it's just on top of it all.

Your first paragraph is predominantly agreeable.
The second, not so much.

 

[no worries]

Oh - the 500k natural deaths from underlying conditions/co-morbidities falsely attributed to Covid due to the deranged Nazism of Democrat terrorists; yes - I'm aware of that.

So, now teabaggers (www.teaparty.org) are blaming democrats for covid deaths.

Just like they tried to blame the democrats for the attempted insurrection in DC.

Dotard like his cult gullible and stupid, Dotard really loves the insane ones.

 

[Lightbringer]

So, now teabaggers (www.teaparty.org) are blaming democrats for covid deaths.

Just like they tried to blame the democrats for the attempted insurrection in DC.

Dotard like his cult gullible and stupid, Dotard really loves the insane ones.

Yep.

 

[no worries]

Agreed on multi-prong. All complex problems have complex solutions. Only idiots think they can be solved with a singular or limited approach.

In the case of the Democrats, they are looking through the wrong end of the telescope by focusing on "AR-15s" instead of the main link uniting all mass murders and suicides: Mental Health.

As you point out, that's easy to say, but harder to do for political and financial reasons. Convincing the Democrats to focus on solving the Mental Health crisis by chipping away at it like they are chipping away at individual gun rights (and Republicans at abortion rights) would be a step in the correct direction.

Banning military type assault weapons that can hold an expanded round magazine, isn't chipping away at your rights, you can own a weapon, just not those.

Why do teabaggers (www.teaparty.org) have the need for a weapon like that? Can't SHOOT?

 

[RB 60]

Banning military type assault weapons that can hold an expanded round magazine, isn't chipping away at your rights, you can own a weapon, just not those.

Why do teabaggers (www.teaparty.org) have the need for a weapon like that? Can't SHOOT?

We have them because we can shoot.

 

[blackascoal]

So, now teabaggers (www.teaparty.org) are blaming democrats for covid deaths.

Just like they tried to blame the democrats for the attempted insurrection in DC.

Dotard like his cult gullible and stupid, Dotard really loves the insane ones.

Consider the upside .. that’s the opposition. That is all that’s left of what once was real opposition Stripped all the bullshit claims ‘masculinity, superiority, religion, and patriotism’ .... THAT is the intellectual limits of all that is left. Be happy.

 

[no worries]

Are you okay with requiring people to pass a mental health exam to own a gun? How about to vote? If different, then why?

Yes but teabaggers (www.teaparty.org) and their dear leader insist, nut jobs should be allowed to own them.

February 15 2017

Within his first two months as president, Donald Trump repealed without public display an Obama administration gun regulation that prevented certain individuals with mental health conditions from buying firearms.

The Social Security Administration finalized the standing rule in December under President Barack Obama. With the regulation, the SSA was required to identify and report to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) individuals who are unable to work because of severe mental impairment and can't manage their own Social Security financial benefits, and therefore were ineligible to buy guns. The thought was that those certain Social Security recipients could pose a danger to themselves or others.
www.newsweek.com › trump-set-overturn-guns-mental

I guess teabaggers (www.teaparty.org) had to repeal the provision, otherwise, none of them could own a weapon.

 

[RB 60]

Yes but teabaggers (www.teaparty.org) and their dear leader insist, nut jobs should be allowed to own them.

February 15 2017

Within his first two months as president, Donald Trump repealed without public display an Obama administration gun regulation that prevented certain individuals with mental health conditions from buying firearms.

The Social Security Administration finalized the standing rule in December under President Barack Obama. With the regulation, the SSA was required to identify and report to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) individuals who are unable to work because of severe mental impairment and can't manage their own Social Security financial benefits, and therefore were ineligible to buy guns. The thought was that those certain Social Security recipients could pose a danger to themselves or others.
www.newsweek.com › trump-set-overturn-guns-mental

So then, a 65 yr. old who is perfectly sane and in good physical condition and lived alone, but has his daughter doing his finances, would be ineligible to own a gun. Unconstitutional.

 

[no worries]

Consider the upside .. that’s the opposition. That is all that’s left of what once was real opposition Stripped all the bullshit claims ‘masculinity, superiority, religion, and patriotism’ .... THAT is the intellectual limits of all that is left. Be happy.

After teabaggers (www.teaparty.org) elected Marjorie Taylor Greene, stupid and crazy has become mainstream, now they elect them.

Look who they worship?

A lying, orange, grifter from NYC.

Scary stupid.

 

[no worries]

So then, a 65 yr. old who is perfectly sane and in good physical condition and lived alone, but has his daughter doing his finances, would be ineligible to own a gun. Unconstitutional.

No.

There is more to it than that.

The person is nuts, THAT'S the reason they gave to get SSI in the first place, they have already admitted that to a doctor, who had to testify to that.

A person can't get SSI just because they can't write a check.

 

[no worries]

We have them because we can shoot.

Then why do you need so many bullets in ONE magazine?

Planning on shooting an entire herd of deer?