Why Boycott Atlanta but not Beijing Olympics?

We are America...at least I am, I'm not sure about you. We are one of two nations that have everything we need within our border.

That's true, all we need is the infrastructure to make the items we need.

However the food would be seasonal, depending on the region.

That's why we do need trading partners.
 
Thanks for the reminder, I'm going to have a TRUMP in a little while, when my coffee kicks in.

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NO, it doesn't, we have tariffs against Cuba, Iran, N. Korea and Venezuela for totally different reasons.

Tariffs only work if you have or threaten to have a different source for the product you are trading.

Dotard DIDN'T.
what product what source -did you not see supply chains shift after USMCA treaty? (NAFTA 2)

Tariffs "worked" -China negotiated phase 1. do you see Biden negotiating on trade? no.
he's too busy insulting Putin and being insulted by China
 
That's the point, replacing some of the products we now get from China, we get elsewhere.

for what? You keep saying trade with China is bad -it's not -it gives us a place to export.
Gives us cheap electronics..
We can diversify,but not shut dwn China trade - we ned another Trade Agreement though -not the TPP
Another bilateral
 
what product what source -did you not see supply chains shift after USMCA treaty? (NAFTA 2)

Tariffs "worked" -China negotiated phase 1. do you see Biden negotiating on trade? no.
he's too busy insulting Putin and being insulted by China

It wasn't the supply chain as much as it was the demand chain, farmers were pouring milk down the drain and letting their crops rot in fields.

USMCA didn't change much of anything besides Dotards signature, which backfired.

The US-Mexico-Canada Agreement requires 40% or more of parts for each passenger vehicle be manufactured by workers who are paid at least $16 per hour as a condition to make them tariff free in the region. Trump hailed that feature as a way to boost production in the U.S., which has a higher hourly rate than Mexico.

Honda Motor-affiliated parts maker Keihin will raise the hourly wage of employees at a factory in Mexico to $16 triple the average rate of a parts factory in Mexico, but still cheaper than making a move.
Auto component maker Piolax, will also raise the hourly wage at its Mexican plant to $16 within the year. The company is also installing robots to mitigate rising labor costs, President Yukihiko Shimazu said.
U.S. research agency Center for Automotive Research estimates that 13% to 24% of all cars sold in the U.S. will be subject to tariffs. If automakers pass these costs on, prices will rise by $470 to $2,200.


The center also said U.S. car sales will drop by up to 1.3 million units annually due to the Trump administration's trade policy -- including sanctions on China. It estimates that 70,000 to 360,000 jobs will be lost, leading to a $6 billion to $30.4 billion reduction in gross domestic product.
www.thestreet.com › mishtalk › economics
 
for what? You keep saying trade with China is bad -it's not -it gives us a place to export.
Gives us cheap electronics..
We can diversify,but not shut dwn China trade - we ned another Trade Agreement though -not the TPP
Another bilateral

China isn't bad, that what teabaggers (www.teaparty.org) think.
The TPP would give the US more sources than just China and possibly more exports than we have with China, 11 to be exact.
Bi-lateral trade is too much BS and gets us crap, like Dotard did.
It would take a decade or more to negotiate with 11 individual countries.
Dotard did 2, in four years.
 
Bi-lateral trade is too much BS and gets us crap, like Dotard did.
It would take a decade or more to negotiate with 11 individual countries.
Dotard did 2, in four years.
ROFL.. China , Japan, S. Korea Canada and Mexico..

But you are correct it take two terms to get this done -Biden isnt doing anything
 
ROFL.. China , Japan, S. Korea Canada and Mexico..

But you are correct it take two terms to get this done -Biden isnt doing anything

Your right, Dotard DID renegotiate 4 trade deals, after he withdrew from them.

They didn't amount to much.

If the U.S. had remained in the TPP, American farmers would already be benefitting from lower tariffs on beef and pork exported to Japan. And they would have greater access to other nations too. Trump is celebrating the benefits of a single trade pact when he could have had much more.
"It really is a pretty small-scale trade agreement," says Clark Packard, a trade policy counsel with the R Street Institute. "The TPP was a better deal than this. It encompassed a lot more areas of trade. It had more members, it was more expansive, and we wasted a lot of time and effort to get to this point."

The TPP would have eliminated 18,000 tariffs that the partner countries currently impose on American exports. It also would have included soybean exports, which are notably not part of the U.S.–Japan deal.
reason.com › 2019/09/27 › trumps-trade-deal-with

President Donald Trump is hailing the revised U.S. free trade agreement with South Korea as a “great deal” and a critical first step toward more favorable treatment of American products around the world.

Yet the revamped U.S.-South Korea accord unveiled earlier this week isn’t much different from the existing pact that Trump often condemned as “disastrous.” Most changes made to tariffs, automotive quotas and agricultural preferences were narrow in scope or incremental, according to trade experts.
www.bloomberg.com › news › articles

Not much different than his USMCA, a nothing burger, Dotard claims is a big mac.
 
NO, it doesn't, we have tariffs against Cuba, Iran, N. Korea and Venezuela for totally different reasons.

Tariffs only work if you have or threaten to have a different source for the product you are trading.

Dotard DIDN'T.
this just creates an opportunity. it's not always up to the states to have business es at the ready. that's actually fascism. this too close relationship is sets the stage for stafe capture and crony capitalism.
 
this just creates an opportunity. it's not always up to the states to have business es at the ready. that's actually fascism. this too close relationship is sets the stage for stafe capture and crony capitalism.

I take it, you're referring to the US states now?

No, it's not fascism if a business/product is already there.

But, if they aren't? IS fascism?

So, I guess Trump IS a fascist.

General Motors MUST immediately open their stupidly abandoned Lordstown plant in Ohio, or some other plant, and START MAKING VENTILATORS, NOW!!!!!! FORD, GET GOING ON VENTILATORS, FAST!!!!!! @GeneralMotors @Ford

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 27, 2020
 
I take it, you're referring to the US states now?

No, it's not fascism if a business/product is already there.

But, if they aren't? IS fascism?

So, I guess Trump IS a fascist.

General Motors MUST immediately open their stupidly abandoned Lordstown plant in Ohio, or some other plant, and START MAKING VENTILATORS, NOW!!!!!! FORD, GET GOING ON VENTILATORS, FAST!!!!!! @GeneralMotors @Ford

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 27, 2020

operation warp speed was definitely fascistic.

you denying tariffs is also fascistic.

you're on board with chinese mercantilism. that's what's perplexing.
 
You seem to be, defending the moron who could have found other trading partners, reducing our trade with China.
Instead, Dotard, increased trade by $200 billion.
 
Yep, and many corps moved their manufacturing out of China to other Asian countries.
 
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