Pee in a cup to get unimployment?

USFREEDOM911 said:
Here's another bit of INFORMATION, from a DES web site.

"Arizona's Unemployment Insurance Benefit Program

Unemployment insurance replaces part of the income you lose when you become unemployed. It is a benefit available to workers out of work through no fault of their own. Unemployment insurance softens the impact job losses have on communities by maintaining the purchasing power in the area where workers live. The money for benefits comes from employers. No contributions for unemployment insurance come from employee wages."


You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting.
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Hey Tinfoil; you failed to address the information here and the one from New York, also.

What happened??
Cat got your tongue?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
And you have totally lied about the idea that Unemployment Insurance is taken out of the employees check.

And you can't prove what you've just posted above.
Now take your right hand, open it up wide, and just slap the shit out of yourself, until you decide to be honest.
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I didn't say it came out of the check of the employee. I said it came out of the resources used to pay the employee.

Forget about it, you can't follow the details
 
tinfoil said:
I didn't say it came out of the check of the employee. I said it came out of the resources used to pay the employee.

Forget about it, you can't follow the details
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Are you now trying to say, that you didn't post the following??

tinfoil said:
http://taxes.about.com/od/payroll/qt/payroll_basics.htm

Statutory Payroll Tax Deductions
Payroll taxes must be withheld from an employee's paycheck. This is required by law. Employers must hand these withholdings over to various tax agencies. Payroll tax deductions include the following:

* Federal income tax withholding (based on withholding tables in Publication 15)
* Social Security tax withholding (6.2% up to the annual maximum)
* Medicare tax withholding (1.45%)
* State income tax withholding
* Various local tax withholdings (such as city, county, or school district taxes, state disability or unemployment insurance).
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Once again: take your right hand, open it wide, and slap the shit of yourself; until you decide to be honest.
 
C'mon tinfoil; just admit that you lied and that you have no clue of what you were trying to promote.

DON'T BE SCEEEEERED!!

tinfoil said:
I didn't say it came out of the check of the employee. I said it came out of the resources used to pay the employee.

Forget about it, you can't follow the details
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Are you now trying to say, that you didn't post the following??

tinfoil said:
http://taxes.about.com/od/payroll/qt/payroll_basics.htm

Statutory Payroll Tax Deductions
Payroll taxes must be withheld from an employee's paycheck. This is required by law. Employers must hand these withholdings over to various tax agencies. Payroll tax deductions include the following:

* Federal income tax withholding (based on withholding tables in Publication 15)
* Social Security tax withholding (6.2% up to the annual maximum)
* Medicare tax withholding (1.45%)
* State income tax withholding
* Various local tax withholdings (such as city, county, or school district taxes, state disability or unemployment insurance).
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Once again: take your right hand, open it wide, and slap the shit of yourself; until you decide to be honest.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
C'mon tinfoil; just admit that you lied and that you have no clue of what you were trying to promote.

DON'T BE SCEEEEERED!!



Are you now trying to say, that you didn't post the following??



Once again: take your right hand, open it wide, and slap the shit of yourself; until you decide to be honest.
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Do I get points for getting tinfoil to run like a scalded cat??
 
I just thought I'd bring this forward and see if tinfoil has developed enough spine to address his lies.

tinfoil said:
I didn't say it came out of the check of the employee. I said it came out of the resources used to pay the employee.

Forget about it, you can't follow the details
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Are you now trying to say, that you didn't post the following??

tinfoil said:
http://taxes.about.com/od/payroll/qt/payroll_basics.htm

Statutory Payroll Tax Deductions
Payroll taxes must be withheld from an employee's paycheck. This is required by law. Employers must hand these withholdings over to various tax agencies. Payroll tax deductions include the following:

* Federal income tax withholding (based on withholding tables in Publication 15)
* Social Security tax withholding (6.2% up to the annual maximum)
* Medicare tax withholding (1.45%)
* State income tax withholding
* Various local tax withholdings (such as city, county, or school district taxes, state disability or unemployment insurance).
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Once again: take your right hand, open it wide, and slap the shit of yourself; until you decide to be honest.
 
Demwit said:
(CNN) -- If Craig Blair gets his way, anyone filing for unemployment or food stamps must show that they are drug-free. He's a state lawmaker in West Virginia who has introduced a bill to require random drug testing for benefits and lays out his case on a Web site called notwithmytaxdollars.com.
Craig Blair says unemployment, designed to get people back to work, is impossible if the recipient uses drugs.

Craig Blair says unemployment, designed to get people back to work, is impossible if the recipient uses drugs.

Blair and his supporters say drug use is rampant and taxpayers are growing alarmed with how the government is spending their money.

"The message that we're trying to send is, first of all, we need to respect taxpayers and how their monies are spent," the Republican said. "And drug addiction is in epidemic proportions, and not only in West Virginia but throughout the United States."

His bill would require random drug testing for any government assistance: welfare, jobless benefits or food stamps.

Someone who failed the drug test would get the benefits and 60 days to clean up. If he failed the next test, he would lose benefits for two years.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/31/jobless.benefits/index.html
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According to the law, you have to have worked, filled out a W-2 and the whole shebang before you receive unemployment...and then you can only get it if you were laid off or disabled (quitting is not an acceptable reason to get unemployment). If I'm not mistaken, parts of your paycheck are taken out for this very purpose....so legally that money is yours.

I would like to know how Blair came to the conclusion that a vast majority of folks on unemployment are dopers or drunks (in his state, let alone the country in general). Evidently, he doesn't realize that what he is proposing would open to the door to consistent monitoring of every person who draws a paycheck and gets downsized (before & after)...the massive bureaucracy that would have to be created.

I consistently marvel at the sheer hypocrisy of those that wail against "big gov't" and the "nanny state" also want to control everyone's life for some false sense of moral superiority and financial security.
 
Taichiliberal said:
According to the law, you have to have worked, filled out a W-2 and the whole shebang before you receive unemployment...and then you can only get it if you were laid off or disabled (quitting is not an acceptable reason to get unemployment). If I'm not mistaken, parts of your paycheck are taken out for this very purpose....so legally that money is yours.

I would like to know how Blair came to the conclusion that a vast majority of folks on unemployment are dopers or drunks (in his state, let alone the country in general). Evidently, he doesn't realize that what he is proposing would open to the door to consistent monitoring of every person who draws a paycheck and gets downsized (before & after)...the massive bureaucracy that would have to be created.

I consistently marvel at the sheer hypocrisy of those that wail against "big gov't" and the "nanny state" also want to control everyone's life for some false sense of moral superiority and financial security.
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You are mistaken.
Mioney is not removed from the employees paycheck, to cover this.
 
HEY SENOR!!
Were you able to find a single thing to support your FEELINGS, or are you just going to cut and run like tinfoil did when he had to eat his hat over this??

Taichiliberal said:
According to the law, you have to have worked, filled out a W-2 and the whole shebang before you receive unemployment...and then you can only get it if you were laid off or disabled (quitting is not an acceptable reason to get unemployment). If I'm not mistaken, parts of your paycheck are taken out for this very purpose....so legally that money is yours.

I would like to know how Blair came to the conclusion that a vast majority of folks on unemployment are dopers or drunks (in his state, let alone the country in general). Evidently, he doesn't realize that what he is proposing would open to the door to consistent monitoring of every person who draws a paycheck and gets downsized (before & after)...the massive bureaucracy that would have to be created.

I consistently marvel at the sheer hypocrisy of those that wail against "big gov't" and the "nanny state" also want to control everyone's life for some false sense of moral superiority and financial security.
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You are mistaken.
Mioney is not removed from the employees paycheck, to cover this.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
I just thought I'd bring this forward and see if tinfoil has developed enough spine to address his lies.



Are you now trying to say, that you didn't post the following??



Once again: take your right hand, open it wide, and slap the shit of yourself; until you decide to be honest.
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Payroll taxes and unemployment are two separate things. However some localities require that a person's paycheck reflect a portion that is diverted towards unemployment insurance, while others do not. This isn't a "lie", he posted accurate information.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
You are mistaken.
Mioney is not removed from the employees paycheck, to cover this.
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Correct, however a company has a budgeted cost for employment, this would be included in that cost. If the company wants to spend "x" amount on an employee total, this would be one of the costs they would add to show a complete cost per employee, some portion of this cost would not be included in what they pay the employee. Money that may otherwise go to a paycheck goes elsewhere. While most places do not require that portion to be listed on a paycheck as being diverted towards unemployment insurance, some local governments do.
 
Damocles said:
Payroll taxes and unemployment are two separate things. However some localities require that a person's paycheck reflect a portion that is diverted towards unemployment insurance, while others do not. This isn't a "lie", he posted accurate information.
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Give me one website that shows this; because the State regulates Unemployment and not any "localities".
Just one
 
Damocles said:
Correct, however a company has a budgeted cost for employment, this would be included in that cost. If the company wants to spend "x" amount on an employee total, this would be one of the costs they would add to show a complete cost per employee, some portion of this cost would not be included in what they pay the employee. Money that may otherwise go to a paycheck goes elsewhere. While most places do not require that portion to be listed on a paycheck as being diverted towards unemployment insurance, some local governments do.
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Your reasoning is a red herring; because it's like saying that you pay for the companies coping paper, since if the company didn't have to buy it then they would pay you more.
You're bucket is to full of holes, to hold the water.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
HEY SENOR!!
Were you able to find a single thing to support your FEELINGS, or are you just going to cut and run like tinfoil did when he had to eat his hat over this??



You are mistaken.
Mioney is not removed from the employees paycheck, to cover this.
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*Sigh* No, I didn't see your response until this evening....which surprised me being that you've done nothing but throw rocks and sour grapes at me from behind Bravo's skirt since I've got here. No matter, let's hope from now on you'll make an attempt to be civil here. I responded on the previous post, Check it out.
 
Taichiliberal said:
True enough.....the employer puts money to the State for this.

BUT

Money that would go into a paycheck in many cases would have to be diverted in order to pay the State for the insurance. Here check this out.

http://www.house.leg.state.mn.us/hrd/issinfo/uepart1.htm#moneyfrom
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Your link supported exactly what I've been saying.
Unemployment Insureance is paid for, by the employer.
There was nothing there that suggested it was paid for by the employee, or that the employer would pay the employee more if they didn't have to pay this.
 
Taichiliberal said:
*Sigh* No, I didn't see your response until this evening....which surprised me being that you've done nothing but throw rocks and sour grapes at me from behind Bravo's skirt since I've got here. No matter, let's hope from now on you'll make an attempt to be civil here. I responded on the previous post, Check it out.
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Refering to your previous post, just shows that what you offered was just what you FELT.
 
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