"Hear me clearly," "America is not a racist country."- Tim Scott

]2epo]v[an said:
Not really

Your deep need to fail in the search for absolutes is the foolishness depicted here.

The stanpoint of not being the relative fool is the only point from which to have a point of reference to make a perspective. Cant say much of anything without first posing at least one side of a relationship between two or more points. And, who ever said they weren't a fool? Your double speak on whether or not you yourself are a fool depicts yourself as saying your point is the superior non fool point. So.... ? Rhetoric much?

Note, also you deflected



So?
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Didn't say I'm not a fool, and you make yourself out as one with an observation that begins "Your deep need" about someone of whom you have barely a clue. You also seen unable to keep entirely different points from clashing into each other. It isn't double speak to admit the obvious truth of sometimes being wrong or foolish while asserting knowledge on a specific matter.

If I knew just what you are claiming in this discussion to be an equivocation fallacy I might address your repeated question, or I might not bother, but I don't. I'm also put off by the egoism in, "Why else would I have to be the guy." Go posture someplace else; it's wasted here.
 
martin said:
Didn't say I'm not a fool, and you make yourself out as one with an observation that begins "Your deep need" about someone of whom you have barely a clue. You also seen unable to keep entirely different points from clashing into each other. It isn't double speak to admit the obvious truth of sometimes being wrong or foolish while asserting knowledge on a specific matter.

If I knew just what you are claiming in this discussion to be an equivocation fallacy I might address your repeated question, or I might not bother, but I don't. I'm also put off by the egoism in, "Why else would I have to be the guy." Go posture someplace else; it's wasted here.
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If youre just going to continously prove my point for me like a fool with no self control im just going to keep making points all over your face whether im trying to or not, lol.

(:

Dumbass.
 
You're still not noticing my vary valid points about a reified equivocation fallacy. Ive even made a perfect example and you admit that you cant find it.... even with the damn search terms.... when a fool IS a fool, i have every natural right to point out they're a fool.

Fool.

How is it you're not a hypocrite for calling me a fool for that?

Your intelectual consistancy is in the negatives. And you cant be brought back on topic in the least even when it has been pointed out you're just a rhetorical deflectionist fool.

I bet retards used to beat you like a hocky puck.
 
redfish said:
bullshit! We have had a black president, we have blacks in congress, we have black CEOs. The USA is NOT a racist country. Tim Scott is correct and proof that anyone can succeed here is he/she is willing to work hard.

Now, if you want to see racism, explain why the Ivey league colleges are limiting asian admissions. That, you moron, is racism. BLM is racism, KKK is racism. The US constitution is NOT racist.
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If Tim Scott were a Democrat you RWs would be screaming affirmative action, among other things.
 
]2epo]v[an said:
If youre just going to continously prove my point for me like a fool with no self control im just going to keep making points all over your face whether im trying to or not, lol.

(:

Dumbass.
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Weak reply, and I suspect you are smart enough to know it though smart you are not.
 
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tsuke said:
This is why I am on the right and support the GOP.

On a fundamental level Democrats and the left believe that the US is a fundamental evil and bad for the world. Any problem other countries have can be traced back to it.

On a fundamental level Republicans and the right believe that the US is a force for good on the world stage and the prosperity others enjoy is because of it.
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The left is able to think in black, white, and shades of gray... unlike the right. Your post relies on extremes, i.e. all or nothing.
 
christiefan915 said:
The left is able to think in black, white, and shades of gray... unlike the right. Your post relies on extremes, i.e. all or nothing.
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Biden is coming up with extreme bills that costs trillions for an economy that is not in crisis
(despite the fact his speech said everything was a crisis)

The Squad are about as extreme as one can get without being a commies.
 
christiefan915 said:
If Tim Scott were a Democrat you RWs would be screaming affirmative action, among other things.
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no one has any problem with AA except a few RW dinosaurs .
Scott made the point that racism may exist at the individual level, but it's not systemic;
like his "cotton to Congress" analogy
 
cawacko said:
Eh, at a certain level I think there is truth to what he's saying.

If you look at the left, you have the 1619 Project and at its core it says America is a fundamentally racist and flawed country. Not a great country with faults, rather a fundamentally flawed country. And just look at the uproar over Tim Scott's comment about America not being fundamentally racist. And we have heard often from this crowd that American's are Colonializers and have oppressed people (largely P.O.C.) all over the globe. Our biggest ally in the Middle East is the terrorist country of Israel etc.

And with the G.O.P. I think back to Reagan and his vision of America and being a force for good in the world. It's a very different vision than the one above.

There is always nuance. And the statements are more ones of generalization. But to me, definite elements of truth in them.
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I looked up the 1619 Project after seeing it referenced in some of the threads, and fail to see how it stands for every (or ever a majority of) Americans on the left. It's been around since 2019 yet I, a registered Dem, just learned about it in 2021. I bet there are plenty of others like me.
 
tsuke said:
It actually is either or. You either think America is a fundamental good or America is a fundamental evil. Theres such a thing as a guiding philosophy about how one views the world.

The left will always say a certain thing in the world is americas fault even if it is only tangentally related to it.

The right will always say that no matter how bad the US gets in certain issues the world is still fundamentally lucky to have it as overlord.
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Either-or is a fallacy called false dichotomy. We on the left know a lot about it, especially from the Iraq War: "you're either with us or with the terrorists."
 
christiefan915 said:
I looked up the 1619 Project after seeing it referenced in some of the threads, and fail to see how it stands for every (or ever a majority of) Americans on the left. It's been around since 2019 yet I, a registered Dem, just learned about it in 2021. I bet there are plenty of others like me.
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The Republicans and those on the right love to take the littlest things and explode them as if it's the entire left and their beliefs.

It's an interesting phenomenon.
 
dukkha said:
Biden is coming up with extreme bills that costs trillions for an economy that is not in crisis
(despite the fact his speech said everything was a crisis)

The Squad are about as extreme as one can get without being a commies.
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China is massively investing in its infrastructure and in it's people. While you advocate the status quo, China is racing ahead with enormous public investments in human capital and physical infrastructure.

World history proves over and over that the key to maintaining economic success and growth is productivity, political stability, and continuous investments in infrastructure and human capital.
 
Cypress said:
China is massively investing in its infrastructure and in it's people. While you advocate the status quo, China is racing ahead with enormous public investments in human capital and physical infrastructure.

World history proves over and over that the key to maintaining economic success and growth is productivity, political stability, and continuous investments in infrastructure and human capital.
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first off everything is not infrastructure as Gillibrand claims.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1379773312482607106

I think we could agree on roads, bridges, trains, planes , airports and broadband.
The rest of this is political payouts, or sops just because the Dems like to spend trillions
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HS rail can be useful, but it's not even working here in Florida (Bright line)

Bright Line (inter-city Florida rail) is shut down. Too many people dying.
The tracks go right through downtown Ft. Lauderdale and along and crossing major roads.
Its not elevated or protected. I doubt if it makes it to Orlando Airport

then there is the costs. China runs a surplus -we have defict spending this year of 1/2 high of our annual GDP
if Bidens wet dreams get passed
 
christiefan915 said:
I looked up the 1619 Project after seeing it referenced in some of the threads, and fail to see how it stands for every (or ever a majority of) Americans on the left. It's been around since 2019 yet I, a registered Dem, just learned about it in 2021. I bet there are plenty of others like me.
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For starters that's why I said there is nuance and my statements were more generalization. But I also said there are elements of truth. I believe that to be accurate.

I've read quite a bit about the 1619 Project. I've listened to the authors of it and I've listened to (black) people pushing back on it. So this isn't to say every single Democrat or liberal is familiar with the 1619 Project or necessarily supports it but it was created with lead support from, and writers of, The New York Times. The NY Times proclaims itself the paper of record and is the liberal gold standard as I understand it. Hannah Nicole Jones is the lead for the 1619 Project. She's a writer for the New York Times. I know not everyone on the left reads the Times but this isn't some obscure project by a group no one has heard of.
 
dukkha said:
Biden is coming up with extreme bills that costs trillions for an economy that is not in crisis
(despite the fact his speech said everything was a crisis)

The Squad are about as extreme as one can get without being a commies.
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That wasn't my point with tsuke, you have to read his posts about Dems v. repubs to see what I was replying to.

Btw, imagine how many billions the US can save by getting out of that A'stan money pit.
 
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