Despicable Dems...

bravo said:
Cheney didn't dodge the draft....Bill Clinton did....study up and expand your narrow mind...:readit:
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My, my....you do have a tendency to type about things you just don't know. Here genius, for your education:

http://www.rense.com/general52/chenn.htm

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/clinton/etc/draftletter.html

BOTH gamed the system to get out of Vietnam in their own way....the DIFFERENCE is that Clinton didn't perform like a hypocritical chickenhawk as Cheney did once reaching the offices of power.
Got that, bunky?
 
Taichiliberal said:
My, my....you do have a tendency to type about things you just don't know. Here genius, for your education:

http://www.rense.com/general52/chenn.htm

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/clinton/etc/draftletter.html

BOTH gamed the system to get out of Vietnam in their own way....the DIFFERENCE is that Clinton didn't perform like a hypocritical chickenhawk as Cheney did once reaching the offices of power.
Got that, bunky?
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So, he didn't send unprotected people into Somalia? Didn't go into Bosnia solely based on NATO and not the UN? Didn't bomb the crap out of pill factories at the slightest hint that Monica was going to be in the news that day? Never used the military in a way that they used courage that he was unable to and avoided? Methinks you "misremember" purposefully because there is a "D" by the name.
 
Southern Man said:
Because he served his country admirably for many years, fighting the good fight.
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Do you even know what the Office of Special Plans was, genius? And if his political service is a pardon for his draft dodging, denying Clinton the same honor is pure hypocrisy on your part.
 
Damocles said:
So, he didn't send unprotected people into Somalia? Didn't go into Bosnia solely based on NATO and not the UN? Didn't bomb the crap out of pill factories at the slightest hint that Monica was going to be in the news that day? Never used the military in a way that they used courage that he was unable to and avoided? Methinks you "misremember" purposefully because there is a "D" by the name.
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"unprotected"? Where did you get that from? And NATO is not the coalition of the coereced. And since when did neocons care what the UN thinks. Compare the lies and deceit that Cheney and folks pulled to invade Iraq, Clinton gets off light. Also, wasn't it the neocon driven GOP that bitched and moaned that Clinton was doing nothing in Iraq (despite maintaining Daddy Bush's embargo and no fly zones, and "strategic bombing"), and then when he did, they jumped all over him. Neocons can't have it both ways. So I suggest YOU think things through before you type...it helps.
 
Haha Damo! A non Bush voter and you just got labled a neo-con.

Edit: Looks like dude labels everyone and everything a neo-con. Sorry Damo, you are not special.
 
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Taichiliberal said:
"unprotected"? Where did you get that from? And NATO is not the coalition of the coereced. And since when did neocons care what the UN thinks. Compare the lies and deceit that Cheney and folks pulled to invade Iraq, Clinton gets off light. Also, wasn't it the neocon driven GOP that bitched and moaned that Clinton was doing nothing in Iraq (despite maintaining Daddy Bush's embargo and no fly zones, and "strategic bombing"), and then when he did, they jumped all over him. Neocons can't have it both ways. So I suggest YOU think things through before you type...it helps.
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Watch Blackhawk down and tell me that those people had proper cover. Where do I get "unprotected" from... :rolleyes:

Geez. It's like pretending there was proper cover for the Bay of Pigs...

As a person who isn't a "Neocon" I wouldn't know when they suddenly started caring about hypocrisy of people who promote UN support of one war, but ignore that such was never sought nor likely to be given in one that their guy went into.

I suggest you read what I say, as it will contain my opinion while my opinion will not be found in your magical opinion sensor it seems to be magic-deprived and inaccurate.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Do you even know what the Office of Special Plans was, genius? And if his political service is a pardon for his draft dodging, denying Clinton the same honor is pure hypocrisy on your part.
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I never got on Clinton because he didn't serve in the military; he sucks because he put our troops in harms way then didn't support them, didn't retaliate after terrorists attacks on our soldiers, and let bin Laden go. Cheney, in contrast, fought terrorism and supported our troops: truly a Great American. *shrug*
 
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"unprotected"? Where did you get that from? And NATO is not the coalition of the coereced. And since when did neocons care what the UN thinks. Compare the lies and deceit that Cheney and folks pulled to invade Iraq, Clinton gets off light. Also, wasn't it the neocon driven GOP that bitched and moaned that Clinton was doing nothing in Iraq (despite maintaining Daddy Bush's embargo and no fly zones, and "strategic bombing"), and then when he did, they jumped all over him. Neocons can't have it both ways. So I suggest YOU think things through before you type...it helps.



Damocles said:
Watch Blackhawk down and tell me that those people had proper cover. Where do I get "unprotected" from... :rolleyes:

Geez. It's like pretending there was proper cover for the Bay of Pigs...

As a person who isn't a "Neocon" I wouldn't know when they suddenly started caring about hypocrisy of people who promote UN support of one war, but ignore that such was never sought nor likely to be given in one that their guy went into.

I suggest you read what I say, as it will contain my opinion while my opinion will not be found in your magical opinion sensor it seems to be magic-deprived and inaccurate.
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When you've got something better than a movie reference, let me know. But for the record, don't confuse a strategic screw up to send armored reinforcements with "unprotected". Big freaking difference from the Bay of Pigs, which was a total screw up and abandonment.

If you claim not to be a neocon, then you should watch out that your opinion does not mimic their "logic". I don't have any rose colored view of Slick Willy....as I originally stated, he gamed the system to stay out of the army just like Cheney...the difference is that once in power Clinton didn't become a war mongering chickenhawk hell bent on the PNAC agenda.
 
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cawacko said:
Haha Damo! A non Bush voter and you just got labled a neo-con.

Edit: Looks like dude labels everyone and everything a neo-con. Sorry Damo, you are not special.
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Me thinks Damo voted for Bush the first time.

He was smart enough to not be a Bush two timer though unlike many.
 
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