from Bushisms to Obamisms.

It's no longer enemy combatants having habeus corpus suspensions, it's 'preventative detentions'.

Obama Is Said to Consider Preventive Detention Plan

President Obama told human rights advocates at the White House on Wednesday that he was mulling the need for a “preventive detention” system that would establish a legal basis for the United States to incarcerate terrorism suspects who are deemed a threat to national security but cannot be tried
 
All of them.
And people in the "Party of Personal Responsibility and Individual Freedom", you know the one that constantly remembers talk of a Shining City and other things, will applaud the decision and point out again the similarity between he and Bush, as if it makes Bush 'better'.
 
It's no longer enemy combatants having habeus corpus suspensions, it's 'preventative detentions'.

Obama Is Said to Consider Preventive Detention Plan


I'll wait to see an actual policy proposal before I get too upset about this one.

But if the policy proposal sounds like what is described in the article, a system of indefinite detention without formal charges and due process protections, I'll be right out front with you jokers against it.
 
I'll wait to see an actual policy proposal before I get too upset about this one.

But if the policy proposal sounds like what is described in the article, a system of indefinite detention without formal charges and due process protections, I'll be right out front with you jokers against it.

You don't understand. He's not against it. He's for it. He has to be or he's a hypocrite.
 
Okay, here's the deal as far as I understand it.

Obama maintains detention for Al Qaeda types by enforces he Congressional oversight that was al but erradicated for the last 8 years. Supposedly, this will be so we won't "detain" 500 some odd innocent people for years.
 
Okay, here's the deal as far as I understand it.

Obama maintains detention for Al Qaeda types by enforces he Congressional oversight that was al but erradicated for the last 8 years. Supposedly, this will be so we won't "detain" 500 some odd innocent people for years.
What's your point?
 
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Okay, here's the deal as far as I understand it.

Obama maintains detention for Al Qaeda types by enforcing the Congressional oversight that was all but erradicated for the last 8 years. Supposedly, this will be so we won't "detain" 500 some odd innocent people for years.


What's your point?

Congressional oversight as opposed the bullshit we've seen for the last 8 years....which resulted in all those torture pics.
 
That cool....a perfect example of 'doublespeak'.....

Congressional oversight magically disappeared for 8 years....? thats magic....

So we don't detain 500? so....maybe 485? how about 363...? or even 207?

What a moron.........
 
That cool....a perfect example of 'doublespeak'.....

Congressional oversight magically disappeared for 8 years....? thats magic....

So we don't detain 500? so....maybe 485? how about 363...? or even 207?

What a moron.........

:rolleyes:The Shrub & company had control of all three branches of gov't...Congressional oversight wasn't their priority, as history has shown. And the 500 were kicked with no rhyme or reason.....with proper oversight and examination, they could have been spared years of interrogation and had their home lives spared. Yeah, we gain a lot of friends there.

Your boys fucked up royally, and you're either too dumb or stubborn to acknowledge it, so you talk a lot of BS. Obama is dealing with the mess left behind...if he screws up, he'll be held accountable by people like me.
 
Okay, here's the deal as far as I understand it.

Obama maintains detention for Al Qaeda types by enforces he Congressional oversight that was al but erradicated for the last 8 years. Supposedly, this will be so we won't "detain" 500 some odd innocent people for years.
Somebody please translate.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
Okay, here's the deal as far as I understand it.

Obama maintains detention for Al Qaeda types by enforcing the Congressional oversight that was all but erradicated for the last 8 years. Supposedly, this will be so we won't "detain" 500 some odd innocent people for years.




Congressional oversight as opposed the bullshit we've seen for the last 8 years....which resulted in all those torture pics.
Ah, better.

I still fail to see why closing GITMO improves anything. One can change policy, use congressional oversight, allow people to verify treatment, give legal trials, etc. all without closing GITMO. This is one expensive and unnecessary cosmetic change.
 
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