Another gun nut looking to waste some people

Seriously, I can understand how things can get away from you when your adrenaline is pumping. But that's not a defense. It's really a tragedy for him and the victim.
 
Watermark said:
Seriously, I can understand how things can get away from you when your adrenaline is pumping. But that's not a defense. It's really a tragedy for him and the victim.
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And you will see more and more of this as the gun nuts get angrier and angrier. Somebody is gonna get shot for flipping off the wrong gun nut one of these days.
 
What's sick are the people who come to defend him, including the "autonomous donor" who gave him the $100,000 for bail.

Sick retards.
 
If the DA's description of events is correct, then the individual deserves to be charged with murder. Going back and shooting the robber again was definitely uncalled for. Of course, DAs have a habit of not telling the whole truth when presenting a case. Perhaps the security cameras showed a person who was unconscious. Or perhaps the perp's hand moved toward his own gun.

It could also be the first shot was fatal, in which case the subsequent shots, though inappropriate, had no bearing on the outcome. Then it would not be murder. What is the penalty for abusing a corpse?
 
Watermark said:
Seriously, I can understand how things can get away from you when your adrenaline is pumping. But that's not a defense. It's really a tragedy for him and the victim.
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dude imagine having people come into rob you and attempt to shoot YOU, imagine what that could do to your cognition in those moments. There is NO WAY you are thinking clearly in this situation. This man did NOT bring this upon himself, the dipshit retards did. The kid got what he deserved. In a vaccuum would I advocate needlessly killing someone? No. But I don't think this guy should be put in prison for the rest of his life when it wasn't him that desired this situation in the first place. Tough shit for the retards. The good guys win again.
 
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Good Luck said:
If the DA's description of events is correct, then the individual deserves to be charged with murder. Going back and shooting the robber again was definitely uncalled for. Of course, DAs have a habit of not telling the whole truth when presenting a case. Perhaps the security cameras showed a person who was unconscious. Or perhaps the perp's hand moved toward his own gun.

It could also be the first shot was fatal, in which case the subsequent shots, though inappropriate, had no bearing on the outcome. Then it would not be murder. What is the penalty for abusing a corpse?
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You'll have to ask a liberal what the answer to the question si.
Seeing as now they've been fucking dead for years. :chesh:
 
Grind said:
dude imagine having people come into rob you and attempt to shoot YOU, imagine what that could do to your cognition in those moments. There is NO WAY you are thinking clearly in this situation. This man did NOT bring this upon himself, the dipshit retards did. The kid got what he deserved. In a vaccuum would I advocate needlessly killing someone? No. But I don't think this guy should be put in prison for the rest of his life when it wasn't him that desired this situation in the first place. Tough shit for the retards. The good guys win again.
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I'm sorry. Could you tell me where the attempted shooting was?

This is not good vs. evil. This is evil vs. evil. If he's put in prison, he had it coming. Murdering someone because you're really mad is not a defense. I can put myself in that situation... and surprise, surprise, I don't murder anyone. It's easier than you think to respect human life.

Maybe he should be given parole in say, 15 years. He definitely needs to spend some time in the slammer though. Justice is sweet. The good guys win again. :clink:
 
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Grind said:
watermark you are just a fucking idiot that will look for any excuse to imprison a thug killer.
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I like your use of the adjective "thug" to describe to this killer. Pretty soon you'll be thinking like me. A straight out ballin' humanist who respects human rights. Who woulda thunk?
 
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If the guy came back and pumped 5 more bullets into an unconscious kid, then he's not defensible. If the kid was still fucking with him, different story.

Self defense is different than being given carte blanche to kill anyone and everything once the situation is safe.

Grind. Stop it.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Here's another gun nut exacting more vigilante justice.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/46482587.html?elr=KArks:DCiUMEaPc:UiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUU

Shoots the guy once in the head, then pumps 5 more rounds into his unconcious body.

Now where is the "Immediate threat" that this UNCONCIOUS BODY posed??
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I hope they convict this SOB gun nut, shooting someones unconcious body five time makes not sense! The sad part is, if this happen in Texas, he would have not be charged with a crime?! Some people don't need to own guns, it's scary to think, you got assholes like this walking the streets with guns!
 
signalmankenneth said:
I hope they convict this SOB gun nut, shooting someones unconcious body five time makes not sense! The sad part is, if this happen in Texas, he would have not be charged with a crime?! Some people don't need to own guns, it's scary to think, you got assholes like this walking the streets with guns!
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You're right.






He should have woke him up first.
I mean what's the point if he's unconcious.
 
Good Luck said:
If the DA's description of events is correct, then the individual deserves to be charged with murder. Going back and shooting the robber again was definitely uncalled for. Of course, DAs have a habit of not telling the whole truth when presenting a case. Perhaps the security cameras showed a person who was unconscious. Or perhaps the perp's hand moved toward his own gun.

It could also be the first shot was fatal, in which case the subsequent shots, though inappropriate, had no bearing on the outcome. Then it would not be murder. What is the penalty for abusing a corpse?
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According to the report I read the coroner found that the first round didn't kill him.
 
Even if the first shot would probably would have lead to his death, it's still not justifiable to shoot at him while he's unconscious and still alive. If an ex-wife were on the operating table, and the doctors disconnected her life support, and then the ex-husband walked in and shot her in the head, it would still be murder.

I'm not sure what the burden of proof is to the prosecutor to prove that the robber was still alive and unconscious when he was shot - or that he was still conscious and making threatening gestures. If he was making threatening movements, though, it probably would have been shown on camera.

I don't know why he's being charged with first degree murder, though. It was a murder of passion, and while unjustified, was not a particularly heinous example of murder. I think he should be shown leniency.

I just think it's ridiculous that all these people are making a hero out of him. Why don't they ever make heroes out of people that save peoples lives? They disrespect those who save lives in a non-violent fashion, and make a hero out of a guy who killed to save no one.

It's absurd for me to even ask these questions. I know the answer, and that's what disturbs me.
 
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